RPGM Henteria Chronicles Ch. 3 : The Peacekeepers [Update 16] [N_taii]

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Apollo Seven

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I don't think I'll be publishing the 1st and 2nd game. I think if I did that I'd have to put them back behind a paywall because Steam doesn't allow games to be up for sale on their platform if the dev proposes a free option somewhere. As for releasing it later, I'll see. Putting the store page up before actually seeling it at least lets people wishlist the game before they have the option to buy it.
Yeah, I'm dealing with this same problem for the Steam version of Netoria Tactics. What I decided to do is make an "enhanced" version of the game with some extra art and stuff. So what's on Steam is technically a different product. I'm pretty sure this works around Steam's policy of not undercutting the store price anywhere.
 
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N_taii

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Hi there, N_taii, got a bug when Lily go to Nezar after drinking with Leto (wedath evening) if yo go to the Nezars`s office (study) it triggers another scene (from tomorrow`s morning)
Thanks for letting me know. I'll look into it.

Yeah, I'm dealing with this same problem for the Steam version of Netoria Tactics. What I decided to do is make an "enhanced" version of the game with some extra art and stuff. So what's on Steam is technically a different product. I'm pretty sure this works around Steam's policy of not undercutting the store price anywhere.
True, I guess just adding a bunch of stuff could qualify as a different version somehow. I'm not going to do it for HC1 and HC2 because it's been far too long since I last worked on them and I wouldn't be sure what to add, but I could have a bunch of artworks and stuff just for the Steam release of HC3 so I could still release it for free on Patreon. Thanks for the tip! : )
 

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As for 1 and 2. He should be able to put them on steam if they are the versions with the extra content. The free versions would be considered "demos". But he would need to pay the $100ech cost to put them up. I think the wiser thing to do would be just do #3 for now, and if it does well then think about putting 1 and 2 on steam. And to be safe, just ask steam support the rules specifically on it.
Yeah, that's the idea. I know there's public versions, which honestly I actually forgot about when first making that post, but there's something to be said for just not releasing free versions anymore in favour of a Steam release and to simply no longer give the free versions of HC1 and 2 away as I highly, highly doubt anyone is getting them from patreon anymore as opposed to this site or the any number of other piracy sites.

I completely forgot Steam charges people for putting games on. It makes sense in theory given how much of a problem shovelware and asset flips are on Steam but Valve already takes a pretty large cut of the money from each game sold on it so I tend to forget about that.

God, poor Leto. Calling him a chick magnet that gets no pussy is such an accurate description. He's got Rose with who he can't actually have a proper physical relationship easily and he's clearly already lost her, Cyanna is into him but he never noticed since he views her as a sister, Lily is introduced after the time skipping commenting on the size of his dick and it's made abundantly clear she's into him, and multiple random women have expressed an interest not knowing he has a girlfriend and he either didn't notice or they gave up when he showed no interest. The dude gets the attention of women on a pretty consistent basis but they all wind up fucking his friends, coworkers, or boss.
 
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longxa762

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Not once did I ever say "hey can you upload the 20$ version". You are merely assuming that because you want to push a false narrative about me. Funny enough if you actually ever did a quick search here of his games since you love them so much you would notice that I already have access to 20$+ versions LMFAO bet you didnt see that coming.

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I guess there goes your whole argument. All I was doing was giving some advice to a fellow pirate. :LOL::ROFLMAO:
Thank you for your leak on the previous games, waiting for your release when this game is completed (y)

I know peoples want to support the dev but this is a piracy forum, put your moral aside and help the community by contributing. If a game is good, a leak won't affect much regarding the revenue. This series is already banking on the top 1% of porn game on patreon, the only thing dev is lacking is a Steam release to maximize the revenue.
 
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longxa762

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I don't think I'll be publishing the 1st and 2nd game. I think if I did that I'd have to put them back behind a paywall because Steam doesn't allow games to be up for sale on their platform if the dev proposes a free option somewhere. As for releasing it later, I'll see. Putting the store page up before actually seeling it at least lets people wishlist the game before they have the option to buy it.


Did you make sure that global.rpgsave and config.rpgsave had also been properly transferred?
Yeah, that's the idea. I know there's public versions, which honestly I actually forgot about when first making that post, but there's something to be said for just not releasing free versions anymore in favour of a Steam release and to simply no longer give the free versions of HC1 and 2 away as I highly, highly doubt anyone is getting them from patreon anymore as opposed to this site or the any number of other piracy sites.

I completely forgot Steam charges people for putting games on. It makes sense in theory given how much of a problem shovelware and asset flips are on Steam but Valve already takes a pretty large cut of the money from each game sold on it so I tend to forget about that.

God, poor Leto. Calling him a chick magnet that gets no pussy is such an accurate description. He's got Rose with who he can't actually have a proper physical relationship easily and he's clearly already lost her, Cyanna is into him but he never noticed since he views her as a sister, Lily is introduced after the time skipping commenting on the size of his dick and it's made abundantly clear she's into him, and multiple random women have expressed an interest not knowing he has a girlfriend and he either didn't notice or they gave up when he showed no interest. The dude gets the attention of women on a pretty consistent basis but they all wind up fucking his friends, coworkers, or boss.
You can still making public release and free on Steam by either selling multiple "Supporter Tiers DLC" or selling the Extra version as a full game/DLC
 

N_taii

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I know peoples want to support the dev but this is a piracy forum, put your moral aside and help the community by contributing. If a game is good, a leak won't affect much regarding the revenue. This series is already banking on the top 1% of porn game on patreon, the only thing dev is lacking is a Steam release to maximize the revenue.
"Put your morals aside... help the community". I'm sensing a bit of a contradiction there?
Leaks do affect revenue, sometimes by between 20% to 25% from one non-leaked month to another leaked one, although I cannot prove this is entirely due to piracy. Maybe it's because my game isn't good, if we go by your logic? Besides, I'm from Switzerland. I make below average there. Heck, even my mom makes more than me working as a secretary.
The game is already going to go public anyway, thousands of hours and $ of work entirely for free, so why get so impatient that you need everything right away without waiting? Then once you've played it, what? Welp, you gotta wait even longer for the next version...
I know, I know, this is mainly a piracy website, who cares about the dev? I'm aware my rant is unwarranted here, guess it's just late and I'm being a bit salty, sorry about that...
 

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"Put your morals aside... help the community". I'm sensing a bit of a contradiction there?
Leaks do affect revenue, sometimes by between 20% to 25% from one non-leaked month to another leaked one, although I cannot prove this is entirely due to piracy. Maybe it's because my game isn't good, if we go by your logic? Besides, I'm from Switzerland. I make below average there. Heck, even my mom makes more than me working as a secretary.
The game is already going to go public anyway, thousands of hours and $ of work entirely for free, so why get so impatient that you need everything right away without waiting? Then once you've played it, what? Welp, you gotta wait even longer for the next version...
I know, I know, this is mainly a piracy website, who cares about the dev? I'm aware my rant is unwarranted here, guess it's just late and I'm being a bit salty, sorry about that...
That's really sad to hear, you're one of the best (and nicest!) devs out there and I really enjoy your work. I'm happily already supporting you on patreon and I would gladly spend money for a "full" release version of your games as well. Please keep up the good work!
 

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I know, I know, this is mainly a piracy website, who cares about the dev? I'm aware my rant is unwarranted here, guess it's just late and I'm being a bit salty, sorry about that...
It's okay to feel frustrated in this situation. As a solo developer(yeah okay some artists involved too) you're putting a lot of effort in your games so you deserve the appreciation. We shouldn't forget that we pirate games for enjoyment(and to spite some greedy companies :] ) If the game is good then we should be thankful to devs and show appreciation by giving them money they deserve. Happy dev means more content and that means more happy players. Besides you need to pay artists so it's essential not to lose too much(though I dunno how much it costs:unsure:)
 

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Thank you for your leak on the previous games, waiting for your release when this game is completed (y)

I know peoples want to support the dev but this is a piracy forum, put your moral aside and help the community by contributing. If a game is good, a leak won't affect much regarding the revenue. This series is already banking on the top 1% of porn game on patreon, the only thing dev is lacking is a Steam release to maximize the revenue.
Being top 1% of porn games on patreon means nothing at all. After fees and commissions that is well below minimum wage. Once you stop relying on your parents and have any business experience, you will realize that isn't a lot.
 

Apollo Seven

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Apparently I'm getting notifications from this thread because I replied to N_taii on it, so I'll provide some info to clear up the discourse here. Who am I to make any comments? I'm also a game developer who makes a fair amount of revenue on Patreon and have a good amount of experience publishing games on Steam.

1) Steam charges $100 to put your game up.
This is true. But you get it back if you have $1,000 in revenue. Regardless, a $100 fee is nothing in the grand scheme of things. Steam takes 30% of your post-tax and fess revenue anyway. The $100 is just to stop people vomiting endless shovel-ware they expect to sell sub $1,000 up as a business strategy.

2) Look at all this money people make on Patreon!
Patreon as a platform takes about 11-12% of that money after various fees. And that's only if you have a legacy account, new signups have a worse rate. Besides that, game development is an incredibly time-intensive and expensive business to run. You're basically programming a software project, writing a book, illustrating a comic, and composing an album at the same time. And either you do all those things yourself or you pay other people to do them for you. Either way that's a lot of time/money. Personally I make negative money on games, meaning the expenses of creating them are more than the revenue they bring in. So all the labor I actually do is essentially free.

3) So how much money is N_taii making?
I don't know, more than me since his base Patreon revenue is higher and his expenses are lower (this isn't speculation I talk to N_taii developer to developer fairly often). But almost certainly the time to money ratio is much lower than they could get working a normal job. So if you're "stealing" from them, you're not sticking it to a big rich corporation, but someone doing a passion project.

4) Wait, so these games aren't making the developers millionaires?
No, they're not. Even if you see someone with 1,000s of subscribers, almost all games here are more art pieces than business propositions. Even something wildly successful like Karryn's Prison basically just ends up being a normal software job money worth of take home money after paying all the people needed to create it.

Edit: This is just a statement of facts about how the NSFW games business operates. You can interpret the information however you wish.
 
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