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Maybe yes, or maybe it won't be that simple?
Yes, it's my first game. Actually, I started to produce this game 2 years ago, I made several maps and some characters, but for some reason, I ended up getting discouraged and stopped the project, but after all this time seeing so many amazing games being produced, I decided to give it another chance and take my project to the end this time.
By the way, I don't know if this question has already been asked, but in Ch3 are you going to add more 'Sharing NTR'?
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I've been following this series since the end of HC1 and I don't plan on stopping any time soon. The game constantly keeps improving and I have so much respect and appreciation for N-taii's work ethic. I've just got my fingers crossed for a switch up in formula sometime down the line.
So what's my issue?
When you make all the antagonists into evil manipulative villains then the girls have to be susceptible and naive for it to be NTR.
That's the issue I'm having with the series right now. We see these wonderful bonds between the protagonist and the female characters and I look forward to seeing them get corrupted. Problem is the sheer levels of idiocy and weakness the women have to display to fall into the webs of these guys. By the time it starts happening I actually don't care about them anymore.
I saw a lot of potential with the princess and her ambitions. Would she be willing to find a lord to marry to strengthen the kingdom? Would she slowly fall for him because he's a good mentor and friend and forget about the protagonist? Nah she finger bangs herself because some obviously shitty dude tells her it could save the kingdom ( maybe it will )
Cyanna is such a lovable character. Strong headed but shy. If Brutus wasn't introduced as such a cliche evil henchman he would have been a perfect antogonist to slowly win her over but at this point it feels pretty obvious she's going to be strong armed into doing more and more depraved things going against her character. I really hope I'm wrong though.
Does all corruption have to start from a point of manipulation or bad intentions?
Maybe I'll be surprised entirely and something will happen I could never have forseen but the villain setup so far just seems like it's heading down the well trodden path.
anyway I know I've simplified quite a few things but I just wanted to rant.
So what's my issue?
When you make all the antagonists into evil manipulative villains then the girls have to be susceptible and naive for it to be NTR.
That's the issue I'm having with the series right now. We see these wonderful bonds between the protagonist and the female characters and I look forward to seeing them get corrupted. Problem is the sheer levels of idiocy and weakness the women have to display to fall into the webs of these guys. By the time it starts happening I actually don't care about them anymore.
I saw a lot of potential with the princess and her ambitions. Would she be willing to find a lord to marry to strengthen the kingdom? Would she slowly fall for him because he's a good mentor and friend and forget about the protagonist? Nah she finger bangs herself because some obviously shitty dude tells her it could save the kingdom ( maybe it will )
Cyanna is such a lovable character. Strong headed but shy. If Brutus wasn't introduced as such a cliche evil henchman he would have been a perfect antogonist to slowly win her over but at this point it feels pretty obvious she's going to be strong armed into doing more and more depraved things going against her character. I really hope I'm wrong though.
Does all corruption have to start from a point of manipulation or bad intentions?
Maybe I'll be surprised entirely and something will happen I could never have forseen but the villain setup so far just seems like it's heading down the well trodden path.
anyway I know I've simplified quite a few things but I just wanted to rant.
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MC named Leto. And the duke act and look like true harkonnen. I see paralell with Dune.Really enjoying this so far, the environmental detail is wonderful.
I have to ask though, the guy in the book that Rose was reading being called Jarad, and the MC being Leto has to have been intentional right?
Hell no. NTR corruption is not about "oh i find a new lovely boyfriend". It's about victory of evil over good. Lust and passion over hight feelings and love. Hardcore sex over vanilla. It's about male brutalness conquer feminity in both ways, mentally and phisically.
The girls already in love and have frienship with MC. And the whole point of corruption NTR is break it down with domination, manipulation and wild animalistic sex.
If girls "just forget the MC" without involvement of manipulation or evil intentions, the whole plot or characters, even MC itself, will be ruined.
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I completely agree with this. I would not like to see the the Female Characters falling for their captors. Most definitely not in this game.
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Don't wanna start that argument all over again but I hope he doesn't share her as he did with
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I agree with the original quote but not with this.
If the girl don't fall for their captors it's not a complete NTR for me.
Kuripick recently tackled this issue with his latest NTR game demo, a character gets raped in front of her husband but states they can take her body but won't ever take her mind. At the end of the day that's just rape, in NTR the girl is "stolen" from the MC.
You can stop at her "body" falling for the villain with the dumb "I love his dick but not him" but a complete psychological fall is way more satisfying for me. Without it I can't view the NTR as truly complete.
Would be cool if he's revealed to share a similar past to Cyanna's, maybe comes from the same village or his own village was attacked by them. Cyanna would open up to him. Then you can throw in some plot twist like he was the one who sold out his own village or evil shit like that, when the corruption will be already gone too far to stop it.
Agreed too. For those with different view, good thing author gives multiple endings so it can be fully corrupt, revenge, good, or "true". I would say those are the perfect option. However there are other things to consider like the "cut off" to when the ending happens and continue the story. We know that by making actual branches like Anim VNs would be very time consuming and makes the game too long to develop for a small team. But by finding the right point to branch from and where it ends it could be good. An idea would be branching from different point for each ending but the cons is we replay too far if we want to change route. This however could fix some problem to "justify" endings other than NTR especially the good ending, where you could just move back a little and start from there instead of forcing to find idea that somehow could not fit the character (but need a lot of rewrite, again hard for small team).
Author San!!! I'm sorry that I can't pay for your work on Patreon. Can you have mercy and release the next day after the release on Patreon? PLEASE!!!!!
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Completely agree. The girls should fall for captors. Not only their bodies, but souls and minds should be completely subordinated to antagonists. Without it it's just boring rape without any sexual chemistry.
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Do you mean Netorase, where the MC willingly offers the women to the antagonists, or NTR where the antagonists just share the girls around until they become public use sluts?Yes, it's my first game. Actually, I started to produce this game 2 years ago, I made several maps and some characters, but for some reason, I ended up getting discouraged and stopped the project, but after all this time seeing so many amazing games being produced, I decided to give it another chance and take my project to the end this time.
By the way, I don't know if this question has already been asked, but in Ch3 are you going to add more 'Sharing NTR'?
Netorase isn't my kind of thing, and I like to keep the corruption between the antagonist and the heroine, but I'll be sprinkling some sharing on top as well. I'm also pondering making two NTR ending: one with the girls exclusive to the antagonists, one where they'll just be shared around.
I get what you mean, but you have to understand that my games aren't solely based on NTR, but also on maledom and corruption, which is why most of the relationships with the antagonists are made the way they are. Those are the three "pillar fetishes" that people can expect when they play my games.
Agreed. Although my games are what they are, I don't enjoy rape at all (read not only physical, but also blackmail, manipulation, etc...), but I view it as a necessary step that will eventually lead to moral degradation and the sex being consensual. The kind of things that will and should only happen in fiction, but that's why we flock to it^^
Don't be sorry^^ But the answer is no anyway. Begging won't work
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You already got yourself a fan right here, and all I heard was goblins, rape and wars, and since you're here, it will probably have some content simmilar as to N_taii's, looking forward to that, don't let yourself or anyone else stop you from what you trying to create!First, I'm a big fan of your work, I really enjoyed your first two games and I'm really looking forward to playing chapter 3! You and other developers inspire me to start creating my own games and soon I'll be supporting you on Patreon too
And I was a little curious about this subject of 'censorship' on Patreon, the game I've been producing for a few months ( and even then there's only a few minutes to play
I don't know if this is a silly question, but do you think this theme (rape by goblins) can get me into trouble if I try to post my game on Patreon?
Good Luck!
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At least that's what the PoL said, but i'm not sure if there are 3 scenes altogether or there is 3 with Lily/Haylen/Cyanna/Rose and then some with maids, barmaids, soliders and whatnot scattered around the map (not counting the extra scene in the 20$ tier). Oh and if you meant "lot of sex" literally and not as a regular scene that includes sexual stuff then the answer is none, at least with the 4 girls, you'll be lucky to see a blowjob before the end of the year. I will say this though, in Ch.2 the corruption of the 3 side girls, once it starts, picks up REALLY fast compared to Aywin and Celis, i don't remember clearly but i'm pretty sure they all start with groping and blowjobs so Haylen and Lily might get some heavier scenes in the update that comes out in December. I personally don't think Lily will get to blowjobs by that time but i can see Haylen get one scene like that.
I mean NTR where antagonists share the girls, so you answered my question.Do you mean Netorase, where the MC willingly offers the women to the antagonists, or NTR where the antagonists just share the girls around until they become public use sluts?
Netorase isn't my kind of thing, and I like to keep the corruption between the antagonist and the heroine, but I'll be sprinkling some sharing on top as well. I'm also pondering making two NTR ending: one with the girls exclusive to the antagonists, one where they'll just be shared around.
I get what you mean, but you have to understand that my games aren't solely based on NTR, but also on maledom and corruption, which is why most of the relationships with the antagonists are made the way they are. Those are the three "pillar fetishes" that people can expect when they play my games.
Agreed. Although my games are what they are, I don't enjoy rape at all (read not only physical, but also blackmail, manipulation, etc...), but I view it as a necessary step that will eventually lead to moral degradation and the sex being consensual. The kind of things that will and should only happen in fiction, but that's why we flock to it^^
Don't be sorry^^ But the answer is no anyway. Begging won't work
(I don't like Netorase either)
Thanks for the comment
Well, regarding the content I'm producing, I've researched some games on patreon and as n_taill said, I don't think I'll have a problem with it really. I'll keep producing and hopefully, I'll have a demo with a few hours of gameplay soon, and then I'll create a thread.
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