Ren'Py Hermione Trainer [v0.2] [EdgeAI]

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lnomsim

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No, I don't know any.

And EdgeAI isn't one of those you're describing.
His mouse is a new in-house production. And it's high quality.

And EdgeAI's Hermione is much prettier, sweeter and higher
quality than the previous versions. So that is a positive development.


Then eat EdgeAIi's mouse. And you don't have any more hunger.
And play with this mouse. (Like me ...)

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You don't have to take what everyone says so personally all the time.
What he means is that people with a talent to do very specific things, sometimes lack the ability to operate outside of a defined environment.

I think someone else's said it previously too.

If you are following a tutorial, you have a guideline, your talent will show how good can create something in a very specific situation. Think homework exercices when you were at school. (it's not because you can solve an equation where the answer is already known that you are a genius mathematician).

The issue arrives when the tutorial ends. Where do you want to go? Do you have a plan? Have you already thought about your organisation? Can you plan ahead? Can you offer gameplay and a story that is good enough to satisfy players, and without doing an exact copy of what has already be done?

Everyone can use an AI image generator. Not everyone can obtain good result.

Everyone can write a short story that goes with said image. Not everyone can write a good story.

But it's not because you have an character and a story that work good together that you can reproduce it on a bigger and more global scale. And don't forget this is a game, you have to add some gameplay elements to the mix.

I'm not saying EdgeAI lacks all of this, I sure hope they will be able to continue their projects, but the whole point is that it's not because they managed to present something that looks good and work, that it is representative of their talent in general or their ability to complete a large project by themselves.

Lack of communication in itself is bad when you are trying to sell a project. Most indie game dev give regular updates on their project, even if it's to say "I hit a wall, update will be delayed"
 

toccata

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If you are following a tutorial, you have a guideline, your talent will show how good can create something in a very specific situation.
In what EdgeAI has created, he has three tutorials:
one for RenPy, one for the AI generator
and one for his graphics program.

That's all. There is nothing more !
The rest is subject to the law of legally guaranteed artistic freedom.

So... what do you think? What kind of tutorial are you talking about ?
Please tell me: which tutorial should he have used for his mouse girl ?
He can do whatever he wants !
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Karnewarrior

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Toccatta, you seem to be under some kind of misapprehension.

What was suggested wasn't that Edge stopped because he needed to put in a tutorial for how your favorite mouse should be used.

What was suggested was that Edge stopped because he is new and got stuck in a hell of tutorials that HE needed to continue developing the game per his vision.



And regardless, he seems to have stopped. He's gone completely silent. That is a very bad sign.
 

toccata

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What was suggested ...
I'm interested in solid facts with consistent logic.
I'm not interested in suggested negative fantasies.

... that Edge stopped because he is new and got stuck
in a hell of tutorials that HE needed to continue developing.
And you believe this ??? Why ???
There is no tutorial telling EdgeAI to do anything.

And regardless, he seems to have stopped.
He's gone completely silent. That is a very bad sign.
That's nothing special.
Many developers take much longer breaks at times. Some take a year off.
The longest break I know of was taken by Pepé Le Pew in Milfy City.
His last silence lasted 2 years.
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Karnewarrior

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I'm interested in solid facts with consistent logic.
I'm not interested in suggested negative fantasies.


And you believe this ??? Why ???
There is no tutorial telling EdgeAI to do anything.


That's nothing special.
Many developers take much longer breaks at times. Some take a year off.
The longest break I know of was taken by Pepé Le Pew in Milfy City.
His last silence lasted 2 years.
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I can tell you've never made a game before, if you think tutorials aren't incredibly important to new developers.

I guarantee he was following tutorials. You don't learn coding without it, or a formal class.

And it's perfectly reasonable to presume death after a prolonged silence. That's what happens 99% of the time. The existence of AN exception does not render the assumption incorrect.
 
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toccata

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I can tell you've never made a game before, if you think tutorials aren't incredibly important to new developers.
I wrote a few games. And did the graphics for them.
First with this one :

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Then some with Modula II - on a DOS box.
But - can be - you weren't born then.

I guarantee he was following tutorials..
if you can... show me a tutorial that you think needs EdgeAI.
then I'll check it out.

You don't learn coding without it, or a formal class.
? ? ?
see here :
In what EdgeAI has created, he has three tutorials:
one for RenPy, one for the AI generator
and one for his graphics program.
That's all. There is nothing more !
And you ?
How many different programming languages have you written in ?
one ? . two ? ... or none ?
 
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lnomsim

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I wrote a few games. And did the graphics for them.
First with this one :

View attachment 4202155

Then some with Modula II - on a DOS box.
But - can be - you weren't born then.


if you can... show me a tutorial that you think needs EdgeAI.
then I'll check it out.


? ? ?
see here :
In what EdgeAI has created, he has three tutorials:
one for RenPy, one for the AI generator
and one for his graphics program.
That's all. There is nothing more !
And you ?
How many different programming languages have you written in ?
one ? . two ? ... or none ?
Seriously, can you stop being so agressive every time?

You want solid facts?

2Months without any news. EdgeAI is still active on the forum and hasn't answered or given any signs of life.
Why? I don't know, the why is speculation.

Also, two months without any release, maybe because no work have been done, maybe because the next update will be a big one. Once again, the why is speculation.

The solid hard facts are the lack of communication and release.
 

toccata

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You want solid facts?
YES !!!!

2Months without any news.
EdgeAI is still active on the forum and hasn't answered or given any signs of life.
Why? I don't know, the why is speculation.
And your "I don't know why this is speculation" are solid facts?

And this?
Maybe he had a car accident and is in the hospital or dead...
Maybe he had a serious illness and is in the hospital or dead...
Maybe his wife has a baby and he now has to take care of his wife and baby...
Maybe he doesn't like that many in this thread are only writing bad things about him...
Maybe this is all wrong and something else is important.
Maybe, maybe not ... you never know.
... this also solid facts?

And now please tell me:
Why do you and others always like to write bad things about EdgeAI?
If he goes and leaves you all ... I understand him very well.
And if he does that, it's not his fault. [/QUOTE]
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lnomsim

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Huh...

the fact is here, you quoted it:
2Months without any news.
EdgeAI is still active on the forum and hasn't answered or given any signs of life.

All the rest is pure invention from your part, please, don't put words in my mouth (or anything else).

I haven't said anything negative, I'm just asking for news.
 

Karnewarrior

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I wrote a few games. And did the graphics for them.
First with this one :

View attachment 4202155

Then some with Modula II - on a DOS box.
But - can be - you weren't born then.


if you can... show me a tutorial that you think needs EdgeAI.
then I'll check it out.


? ? ?
see here :
In what EdgeAI has created, he has three tutorials:
one for RenPy, one for the AI generator
and one for his graphics program.
That's all. There is nothing more !
And you ?
How many different programming languages have you written in ?
one ? . two ? ... or none ?
Interesting, how easily lies come to you on the internet, huh? Pretending to be some old game dev. And yet, you still can't understand what's actually being discussed. Somehow, you think a game can just be manifested directly from the developer's thoughts like magic. Almost like someone who never actually did any development and only fantasized about it. Oh, wait...

Yes, kid, I was around in that era. I've programmed games in C++, in Python, and in MIPS. And I did it all with tutorials or instruction. Because nobody, not a single human being, has programmed something without instruction. Who do you think EdgeAI is, goddamn Ada Lovelace?

I'm growing very tired of you getting super hostile every time someone says something you naively disagree with, and then having to try to patiently explain to you, through what might be the worst translation software on the market, what is actually going on and why you're arguing against someone who doesn't exist for a cause that doesn't make sense. I know for a fact that German translates better than what you're doing, it's not all that different from English, and your mistakes aren't the kind a German Speaker would normally make, they're the kind someone would fake if they were being obtuse and just trying to raise hackles. Stop it. Get some help.
 

toccata

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... Oh, wait ...
♫♪

Sorry ...
Your beloved hobby is not to my taste.
Please find someone else to fool around with.

And learn to read ...
see here :
In what EdgeAI has created, he has three tutorials:
one for RenPy, one for the AI generator
and one for his graphics program.
That's all. There is nothing more !
The rest is subject to the law of legally guaranteed artistic freedom.
 
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