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AI CG : Fantasy Conquest [v0.5.2] [BerndSnail]
the pictures are beautiful, especially the amazons,
and the story is quite interesting and quite playable.
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the pictures are beautiful, especially the amazons,
and the story is quite interesting and quite playable.
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Karnewarrior, i would like to ask you something ...
I'll show you two pictures,
and then another picture:
1. )
2.) . .
Which of them do you think is at a higher level ?
I'll show you two pictures,
and then another picture:
1. )
2.) . .
Which of them do you think is at a higher level ?
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Short answer:
Longer answer:
You're not making a fair comparison. Firstly the AI image is a closeup of the face while the first 2 images are a chibi and bust shot respectively, both at a much lower resolution. Even their in game sizes have a large discrepancy. You just aren't able to cram in as much detail and subtly without things looking messy.
Secondly, Akabur's style is closer to a graphical, comic book still compared to the AI apparent attempt at a stand alone illustration. While I agree when it comes to perceived technical skill the AI piece utilities a wider variety of edges for shadows and line coloration, no one is zooming in to look at these details while reading text or jacking/jilling it. People like myself are looking for a cohesive scene. In this way the images you featured from Fantasy conquest either fail or actively avoid by blurring everything (save the 5th one of interacting with the clothes).
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As such, a more fair comparison is something like asking which one of these scenes seems more cohesive:
I added Mindy because the way her cell shading matches with the game's art direction more than the current AI Hermione with her softer edges. This comparison is still not perfect since a) the scaling algorithm (Lanczos3) used on Akabur's piece to match the size of the other assets makes the edges slightly fuzzy, diminishing it's appearance and b) I've edited the image of Mindy slightly to remove some rendering errors. This is also an admitence that nothing I wrote here is inherant to AI but simply common tropes that plague works involving its assistance.
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your answer is a good way to compare the situation of these images :Short answer:
The AI image is qualitatively far superior to the two Abakur images.
This AI picture represents a good development of the Abakur style.
From your answer I conclude that you don't know where these two Abakur images come from. Because: The resolution of the underlying images is the same. It is as Karnewarrior correctly noted.
Now compare the two images in terms of their quality :
and you will see that the AI image is far superior to the Abakur image !
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I won't go into the story itself here. I can do that later.
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This reminds me of a little joke of how scientists were able to create life out of dirty and went to show God. They told him they don't need a God because they can make life out of dirty. Then God asked "Where did you get the dirt from?"... pause... "When you create dirt out of nothing, then come back to me"
So let me ask you this - would there be "far superior AI art" without the original Abakur art? It's newer, it's different. But better? That's subjective.
So let me ask you this - would there be "far superior AI art" without the original Abakur art? It's newer, it's different. But better? That's subjective.
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If the silver mod has a higher resolution than the original game and you had access to it, why didn't you do this in the beginning? You also haven't explained how the AI version is superior. Repeating a claim is not the same as explaining it.
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Yes, is better.
i see with my own eyes : Is much better !.
And you ? with your own eyes : You this not see ?
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You are pushing the analysis way too far here.
The AI does what it's told to do. If you ask it to generate expression of disgust and discomfort, it will do it.
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By the way, I used the same model and LORA as the dev, and as you can see, the quality and level of detail is not the same.
(EdgeAI what other LORA or tweaks do you use? Your renders are softer. I suppose you also use disney princess or something like that?)
As for Akabur's game, yes, it is misogynistic, that's the whole point of the game, manipulation and rape. But it has nothing to do with human VS AI.
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I'm not saying the AI art is superior. It's not. Art has no superiority, it's subjective.
Subjectively, I prefer the AI. But it's perfectly valid to prefer Akabur's. It's silly to act like one has more value than the other because it happens to match your personal preference. The only non-subjective value a work of art can have is how often it's subjectively liked by a large segment of the population. Anyone with a niche kink will tell you exactly how much that particular metric matters too; sometimes, great things come in niche packages.
As far as I'm concerned, the AI art here is just to supplement the dev's art skills and make development easier. I'm no more offended by him using AI to create the initial sketch than I would be to find ChatGPT had been used to make the initial code skeleton for the game, or hunt for syntactic bugs. Both of those being things ChatGPT is extremely useful for.
Subjectively, I prefer the AI. But it's perfectly valid to prefer Akabur's. It's silly to act like one has more value than the other because it happens to match your personal preference. The only non-subjective value a work of art can have is how often it's subjectively liked by a large segment of the population. Anyone with a niche kink will tell you exactly how much that particular metric matters too; sometimes, great things come in niche packages.
As far as I'm concerned, the AI art here is just to supplement the dev's art skills and make development easier. I'm no more offended by him using AI to create the initial sketch than I would be to find ChatGPT had been used to make the initial code skeleton for the game, or hunt for syntactic bugs. Both of those being things ChatGPT is extremely useful for.