destroyerofassholes

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It`s just strange that Elena path so much contradicts others, plus scenes with Sera and Cecile go after duel, which not happening in Erin route.
Yeah I have 0 idea how all of these completely different paths are meant to become one and have common ground. I'm pretty sure the author bit off more than he can chew with this choice because doing this fork not close to the end but closer to the middle means a ton of variation and writing that I don't think he will be able to do.

Ironically, Erin's route itself seems to be the most neutral (and overall happy?) one, no extreme grudges as there are with Sera's or Elena's routes.

It looks like Nitrolith will just retcon some of this stuff, because he said that all the paths will turn into one in Act 3 or else it would be too much work (that's what I heard in the discord)
Exactly. There is no way in hell all of this is somehow supposed to turn into one, unless he writes some incredibly vague and awkward dialogue that could be interpreted in each path's way.
 
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Much as I like Sera and her ending where she finally ditches Erin, it still warms my heart to see her defending Erin in Erin's ending.
I really hope Sera and Femerin can have a healthier relationship in Mars' harem.
 

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Exactly. There is no way in hell all of this is somehow supposed to turn into one, unless he writes some incredibly vague and awkward dialogue that could be interpreted in each path's way.
Take it with a grain of salt because I haven't followed the development that deeply anymore but:

The explanation, and how I understood is that, while you as a player can only see and decide for one "ending" or decide to outright ignore certain scenes or the erin stuff during the game (femboy and sissy fetishes is not for everyone), after the timeskip Mars has done all the events with the girls and erin you haven't saw in the background/meantime anyway and will converge.

So effectively you have a 100% playthrough after the timeskip going forward for the main stuff, with a bit more favor of the person you chose before the timeskip I guess, if you want to or not. We need to wait and see if he will pull this off in a coherent way.

Act 3 aka after timeskip won't be very long according to the dev and very different in overall mood.
Also for you guys who are expecting happy endings should steel themselves. The dev seem to be averse to a classic happy ever after and thats fine.
I mean not that they are not happy but they will be very nuanced. The harem one especially.

However I am highly anticipating the finished product and I just love Nitro's art. Next update is gameplay stuff....which is long overdue. The dungeon and mini games have so much potential and can add to the quality of the game. It will also add variety to the mostly VN styled game as well. Hope he will pull this off.
 
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Take it with a grain of salt because I haven't followed the development that deeply anymore but:

The explanation, and how I understood is that, while you as a player can only see and decide for one "ending" or decide to outright ignore certain scenes or the erin stuff during the game (femboy and sissy fetishes is not for everyone), after the timeskip Mars has done all the events with the girls and erin you haven't saw in the background/meantime anyway and will converge.

So effectively you have a 100% playthrough after the timeskip going forward for the main stuff, with a bit more favor of the person you chose before the timeskip I guess, if you want to or not. We need to wait and see if he will pull this off in a coherent way.

Act 3 aka after timeskip won't be very long according to the dev and very different in overall mood.
Also for you guys who are expecting happy endings should steel themselves. The dev seem to be averse to a classic happy ever after and thats fine.
I mean not that they are not happy but they will be very nuanced. The harem one especially.

However I am highly anticipating the finished product and I just love Nitro's art. Next update is gameplay stuff....which is long overdue. The dungeon and mini games have so much potential and can add to the quality of the game. It will also add variety to the mostly VN styled game as well. Hope he will pull this off.
Mate, the endings in this fork outright completely cancel each other. Mars "can't" do their content individually. Like Cecille ends up utterly despising Sera in Sera's path. Erin is on a deathroll in Elena's ending. These can't all be true at the same time. It's not a question of "yea but you just get a tad bit more with the one you went with" the 4 paths seem pretty damn mutually exclusive. I don't see Mars making up with Cecille and unlocking the full extent of her powers after Sera essentially banishes Cecille with her power.

That and Canon Mars wouldn't actually do the background content (since it's nothing but you ruining lives irrelevant to the mission) stated by big N himself so I doubt he'll write that timeskip mars has done everything.
 

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I think I might wait to play this until the next patch comes out but with the Elena path how bad is it compared to the other 3?
It was going in a really bad direction last patch so I was hoping after some critcism that the dev might have changed it for the better sounds like it got even worse.
 

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Mate, the endings in this fork outright completely cancel each other. Mars "can't" do their content individually. Like Cecille ends up utterly despising Sera in Sera's path. Erin is on a deathroll in Elena's ending. These can't all be true at the same time. It's not a question of "yea but you just get a tad bit more with the one you went with" the 4 paths seem pretty damn mutually exclusive. I don't see Mars making up with Cecille and unlocking the full extent of her powers after Sera essentially banishes Cecille with her power.

That and Canon Mars wouldn't actually do the background content (since it's nothing but you ruining lives irrelevant to the mission) stated by big N himself so I doubt he'll write that timeskip mars has done everything.
Damn, I never knew.

Granted I only played a very early update and stopped waiting for the full release. My post and knowledge stemmed from my time on the discord chatting with the dev and so on but yeah....from how you worded it this sounds impossible to converge.

Nitro stated again and again that all routes are canon. How this can work? Dunno man.

Also I checked out the server again and was reading that Sera is the canon heroine now? (Which is news to me. I always thought it was cecile :unsure: ).
 
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Damn, I never knew.

Granted I only played a very early update and stopped waiting for the full release. My post and knowledge stemmed from my time on the discord chatting with the dev and so on but yeah....from how you worded it this sounds impossible to converge.

Nitro stated again and again that all routes are canon. How this can work? Dunno man.

Also I checked out the server again and was reading that Sera is the canon heroine now? (Which is news to me. I always thought it was cecile :unsure: ).
well the end you end up with is canon for you like in other H and Non H games. i could be wrong the only problem would be if Nitro wants to make HPMF 2 multiple endings means more work for a sequel in the same Univers
 

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well the end you end up with is canon for you like in other H and Non H games. i could be wrong the only problem would be if Nitro wants to make HPMF 2 multiple endings means more work for a sequel in the same Univers
Yes sure.

But the problem of understanding is right now how the game will play out after the timeskip. For the longest time we had the info that all routes converge no matter what "canon" ending you choose for yourself before that. With what destroyerofassholes wrote, as of right now its difficult to see how it can work.
 

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Yes sure.

But the problem of understanding is right now how the game will play out after the timeskip. For the longest time we had the info that all routes converge no matter what "canon" ending you choose for yourself before that. With what destroyerofassholes wrote, as of right now its difficult to see how it can work.
ngl as long as the end is fun and makes sense story wise i dont really care how we get there xD i love this game and the story is not the same as in other Vns this something new in my op and the art is Top

but i have to say i dont see any problem with the story/endings after playing all of them i get it mars is a (good guy at heart but) but he got raised by a biter Demon mom and all he is doing right know benefits the mission in someway
 
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ngl as long as the end is fun and makes sense story wise i dont really care how we get there xD i love this game and the story is not the same as in other Vns this something new in my op and the art is Top
Thats true.

Nitro hooked its audience not only with his art but also with his writing. As I mentioned I only played a very early part of the game but I noticed that I was reading every line he want to tell. Usually in other games I start skipping through stuff.

There is a captivating story to read in the middle of a pool of corruption NTR games. Because of all of this it would be a shame if right at the end he dropped the ball and fails to combine everything to a coherent and believable package just because he fumbled with all the different routes and the need to converge them.

but i have to say i dont see any problem with the story/endings after playing all of them i get it mars is a (good guy at heart but) but he got raised by a biter Demon mom and all he is doing right know benefits the mission in someway
Imagine you have not played every ending and just continue with one ending to the timeskip and suddenly some behavior of characters or retelling of events doesn't make sense anymore because they happened differently in your playthrough but got changed to fit the on rails narrative after the timeskip.
If thats the endgame then what were the points of having different routes and alternative ways of telling the story?

I know I most likely read to much into that. I tend to do that but the thoughts are there.

Anyway, I estimate we still have one and a half year ahead of us until the game is finished. We just have to wait and see.
 
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