wiseold6996

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You're a fucking moron. Who could feel sorry for a clown who spies on his whore and can't figure out that the only lady with such curves in the village is his priestess, lmao? What I said about my sympathies for Erin is not entirely correct, he's just the least disgusting. The story is written so shittily that it creates absolute disgust for it. If you, a fucking idiot, really think that a truly ridiculous netori story can somehow offend me, think again. The main character is written so ridiculously "charismatic" that it's just funny, he seduces people with just a snap of his fingers. Well, no, just with a look, judging by everything. Fucking Yujiro Hanma himself, nothing less. Only in Baki it was presented correctly and with irony, but here it is presented as if the author has some pretty bad mental problems.
Oh I see you wanted more of a challenge for the mc to seduce the bitches? I kind of get that
 

Foges

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Sep 6, 2017
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Jesus christ, how is this version more buggy then the one i played several years back. There i was able to get to Erin`s mom at least here i`m in perpetual hell of training Cecile for the second time.
 
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2LAOD

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Oct 19, 2018
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You're a fucking moron. Who could feel sorry for a clown who spies on his whore and can't figure out that the only lady with such curves in the village is his priestess, lmao? What I said about my sympathies for Erin is not entirely correct, he's just the least disgusting. The story is written so shittily that it creates absolute disgust for it. If you, a fucking idiot, really think that a truly ridiculous netori story can somehow offend me, think again. The main character is written so ridiculously "charismatic" that it's just funny, he seduces people with just a snap of his fingers. Well, no, just with a look, judging by everything. Fucking Yujiro Hanma himself, nothing less. Only in Baki it was presented correctly and with irony, but here it is presented as if the author has some pretty bad mental problems.
Dude. As a guy who hates ntr,
[real kings HATE ntr]
this story is like a bad joke told really well, and on purpose.
-the way ntr works is by ppl empathizing with a character that gets cheated on, and then masochists feel pain vicariously through them. Then they get off to it.
but its not just "hero get ntr'd"-
Because the main goal of the antag(you) doesnt even matter, because it'll all go to shit no matter what.
the entire worldbuilding is ntr'd cuz the world depends on a goddesses who set them up for a REALLY bad joke.
the antag gets ntr'd because he cant live a worthy, respecable life. he doesnt even know how to AND the powers that be; dont want him to.
you can never fully empathize with anyone either, so-
the WHOLE STORY is ntr'd.
only reason i even "played" this game was for the gallery unlocker. But then i couldn't help but catch a few things.
This whole thing is just a bad joke told for sick fucks who are bad jokes themselves.
Its perfectly unbalanced and its what they deserve.
 

mandragoora

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Dude. As a guy who hates ntr,
[real kings HATE ntr]
this story is like a bad joke told really well, and on purpose.
-the way ntr works is by ppl empathizing with a character that gets cheated on, and then masochists feel pain vicariously through them. Then they get off to it.
but its not just "hero get ntr'd"-
Because the main goal of the antag(you) doesnt even matter, because it'll all go to shit no matter what.
the entire worldbuilding is ntr'd cuz the world depends on a goddesses who set them up for a REALLY bad joke.
the antag gets ntr'd because he cant live a worthy, respecable life. he doesnt even know how to AND the powers that be; dont want him to.
you can never fully empathize with anyone either, so-
the WHOLE STORY is ntr'd.
only reason i even "played" this game was for the gallery unlocker. But then i couldn't help but catch a few things.
This whole thing is just a bad joke told for sick fucks who are bad jokes themselves.
Its perfectly unbalanced and its what they deserve.
What you said was very shallow and limited. You’re not entirely wrong though, but I can assure you there’s a vast number of NTR enthusiasts who don’t fit into any of the categories you mentioned.

Take me, for example. I’m a woman, and the reason I enjoy NTR is because I find it incredibly sexy when a woman abandons her perfect boyfriend for a womanizer, masculine, muscular man who simply pleases her far better. She has the perfect boyfriend—flawless and ideal for a lifetime—but the sheer intensity of physical attraction and overwhelming sexual pleasure she feels for the other man drives her to give it all up for him. And when she does it while humiliating or emasculating her perfect boyfriend, it’s even sexier. For me, everything about NTR revolves around the idea of "superior" masculinity, if a NTR doesn't portrait this, it's garbage. (shotas being portraited as bulls are one of the most disgusting things in any hentai genre)

As you can see, it has nothing to do with empathy for the stronger or weaker party or any of the other reasons you brought up. To clarify even further, this is purely about fiction for me. Just because I enjoy the dynamic of masculine, muscular men dominating women and conquering them from weaker, effeminate men in stories doesn’t mean I’m attracted to masculine men in real life. In fact, I’m not particularly fond of them outside of fiction. But in this context, the dynamic is incredibly arousing to me. It’s no different from how some men enjoy yaoi without feeling any attraction to other men in real life.
 

2LAOD

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What you said was very shallow and limited. You’re not entirely wrong though, but I can assure you there’s a vast number of NTR enthusiasts who don’t fit into any of the categories you mentioned.

Take me, for example. I’m a woman, and the reason I enjoy NTR is because I find it incredibly sexy when a woman abandons her perfect boyfriend for a womanizer, masculine, muscular man who simply pleases her far better. She has the perfect boyfriend—flawless and ideal for a lifetime—but the sheer intensity of physical attraction and overwhelming sexual pleasure she feels for the other man drives her to give it all up for him. And when she does it while humiliating or emasculating her perfect boyfriend, it’s even sexier. For me, everything about NTR revolves around the idea of "superior" masculinity, if a NTR doesn't portrait this, it's garbage. (shotas being portraited as bulls are one of the most disgusting things in any hentai genre)

As you can see, it has nothing to do with empathy for the stronger or weaker party or any of the other reasons you brought up. To clarify even further, this is purely about fiction for me. Just because I enjoy the dynamic of masculine, muscular men dominating women and conquering them from weaker, effeminate men in stories doesn’t mean I’m attracted to masculine men in real life. In fact, I’m not particularly fond of them outside of fiction. But in this context, the dynamic is incredibly arousing to me. It’s no different from how some men enjoy yaoi without feeling any attraction to other men in real life.
Hmmn
i was talking from a male perspective. Because... obviously.
for a man, getting in a cucks point of view serves no purpose other than pain.
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for men, its masochistic.
but its sadism for women like you... makes sense.
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but for masochistic men, they're getting a helluva lot more than they bargained for.
Its kinda funny how it doesn't really sit well with all of them. The story itself reeks of meta-irony.
its like someone loudly farted in the middle of class for laughs, only to accidently shit themselves a bit. So the smell doesn't leave and no one's laughing anymore.
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Seidou

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Feb 1, 2021
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You're a fucking moron. Who could feel sorry for a clown who spies on his whore and can't figure out that the only lady with such curves in the village is his priestess, lmao? What I said about my sympathies for Erin is not entirely correct, he's just the least disgusting. The story is written so shittily that it creates absolute disgust for it. If you, a fucking idiot, really think that a truly ridiculous netori story can somehow offend me, think again. The main character is written so ridiculously "charismatic" that it's just funny, he seduces people with just a snap of his fingers. Well, no, just with a look, judging by everything. Fucking Yujiro Hanma himself, nothing less. Only in Baki it was presented correctly and with irony, but here it is presented as if the author has some pretty bad mental problems.
at the end of the day it's just a game, chillax
 
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2LAOD

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You're wasting your time, I'm not sure that the local morons even know what meta-irony is, lmao. On the other hand, you yourself are not quite right about NTR. Self-insertion works in the bull's direction, and there are also people who simply enjoy history.
yeah, its mostly bull pov-
but you get plenty of erin pov and backstory. its kinda heavy, his life was really fucked from the start.
 
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Alandir

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What you said was very shallow and limited. You’re not entirely wrong though, but I can assure you there’s a vast number of NTR enthusiasts who don’t fit into any of the categories you mentioned.

Take me, for example. I’m a woman, and the reason I enjoy NTR is because I find it incredibly sexy when a woman abandons her perfect boyfriend for a womanizer, masculine, muscular man who simply pleases her far better. She has the perfect boyfriend—flawless and ideal for a lifetime—but the sheer intensity of physical attraction and overwhelming sexual pleasure she feels for the other man drives her to give it all up for him. And when she does it while humiliating or emasculating her perfect boyfriend, it’s even sexier. For me, everything about NTR revolves around the idea of "superior" masculinity, if a NTR doesn't portrait this, it's garbage. (shotas being portraited as bulls are one of the most disgusting things in any hentai genre)

As you can see, it has nothing to do with empathy for the stronger or weaker party or any of the other reasons you brought up. To clarify even further, this is purely about fiction for me. Just because I enjoy the dynamic of masculine, muscular men dominating women and conquering them from weaker, effeminate men in stories doesn’t mean I’m attracted to masculine men in real life. In fact, I’m not particularly fond of them outside of fiction. But in this context, the dynamic is incredibly arousing to me. It’s no different from how some men enjoy yaoi without feeling any attraction to other men in real life.
I wouldn't call Erin a 'perfect boyfriend' by any stretch of the imagination.
 

_Anti_

Newbie
Oct 13, 2019
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Is there a command to cancel Cecile's ending? Because I haven't finished everything, and they're already showing me the ending.
 
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The game wasn't made for wanking, but simply out of hatred for the cliche of the chosen hero.
says you, ive fapped to this game multiple times. Its hot as fuck.

Ya really gotta touch grass my dude. Settle your autism down and just enjoy the game, because it truly is one of the best written games on this site. Nowhere else will you find a story as fucked-up, nuanced and twisted as this, i guarantee it.

Disagree? Then quit annoying the rest of us and go read one of the million isekai/hero comics that this game makes fun of.
 

NeoEros

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Feb 23, 2022
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Download and play the update but still have zero idea about how to access the new content and the lack of a changelog after one month of release doesn't help either. After playing hundreds of Ren'py games, this one is still by far the most unnecessarily convoluted even for a grind game's standard since you need to constantly reload the v0.4.3 official save instead of, you know, your own recent saves, and the annoying lack of direction in accessing new content makes me feel like I'm walking into a maze especially when playing the recent updates.
 
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