Ren'Py Hero Party Must Fall [v0.5.5 Bugfix 1] [Nitrolith]

[daycallmebiggnutt]

I'm assuming you're talking about Elena?
No, most of her events will feature those things.
But I think in her ending they'll likely be removed.

Yeah I was talking about her. I understand that the piercings and tattoos are needed to advance the plot, so I wasn't hoping for the content to be removed or toggleable, what you described as them being removed in the ending was pretty much all I wanted, so that satisfies me. Will there be content after the ending or will it just be over?

 

[nitrolith]

Yeah I was talking about her. I understand that the piercings and tattoos are needed to advance the plot, so I wasn't hoping for the content to be removed or toggleable, what you described as them being removed in the ending was pretty much all I wanted, so that satisfies me. Will there be content after the ending or will it just be over?

Extended endings. So like a short epilogue explaining how things ended up.

 

[darius25]

turning him into a women would kill the vibe btw its him being a guy that makes it nice

 

[rangaru]

About handholding... are you talking about the scene where you keep Erin company? you can just not do that.

Nah, it's fitness training when you take Erin to your room and molest him. There is no option to opt out from this event.
And I don't particulary mind handholding, nor this particular event just hope that game won't force me to sodomise or kiss him in the future.
(I didn't took any "Erin +" choice", but femdom with him is on, maybe this is a issue?)

Are you using an old save? if you've done the skip from paths, you shouldn't get a read book option.

Old save, only mentioning it as playtest, not a issue per se.

 

[nitrolith]

turning him into a women would kill the vibe btw its him being a guy that makes it nice

The option will be left to the player. This is just a warmup before the start of his content.
It will intensifies more after the duel between Mars/Erin. There will be a short timeskip after that point as well.

Nah, it's fitness training when you take Erin to your room and molest him. There is no option to opt out from this event.
And I don't particulary mind handholding, nor this particular event just hope that game won't force me to sodomise or kiss him in the future.
(I didn't took any "Erin +" choice", but femdom with him is on, maybe this is a issue?)


Old save, only mentioning it as playtest, not a issue per se.

Ah, I believe you got that event because you bought the lewd outfit for him.
In the bugfixes version, I added an explicit warning to only buy it if you're interested in his content because I knew people will buy it just because.

Even though it's kinda obvious, you don't buy a "lewd" outfit for a dude. It has implications...

Also, in the final game, "cash" will be more scarce. You won't be able to get everything. At least that's the idea I had in my specification document.

 

[rangaru]

Even though it's kinda obvious, you don't buy a "lewd" outfit for a dude. It has implications...

Hah, seems about right. I have tough that it was a outfit for Ceci when I bought it.

And congrats on the game btw, it's one of the very few if not only one game/novel with evil protagonist which manage to limit cringe/edginess factor to minimum. It must have been very hard to write.

 

[darius25]

Hah, seems about right. I have tough that it was a outfit for Ceci when I bought it.

And congrats on the game btw, it's one of the very few if not only one game/novel with evil protagonist which manage to limit cringe/edginess factor to minimum. It must have been very hard to write.

true i like mars being someone rather than just a stereotype character saying GOTTA FUCK EM ALL well i mean he does say that buuuuut there is more to it

 

[nitrolith]

Hah, seems about right. I have tough that it was a outfit for Ceci when I bought it.

And congrats on the game btw, it's one of the very few if not only one game/novel with evil protagonist which manage to limit cringe/edginess factor to minimum. It must have been very hard to write.

Thanks!
Mars wasn't that hard to write because I already enjoy writing morally gray characters. But yeah, balance is definitely harder than going to either extremes.
All can be good, depends on the execution.

 

[timmy95]

But I think in her ending they'll likely be removed.

Don't do this please. Those look good on elena. I think it would better if all the girls got similar piercings and tattoos.

 

[NeoEros]

The version here is a playtest version meant for playtesters. It wasn't meant to be leaked.
I already released a new version with fixes for all the reported bugs the playtesters found. Including bug you've encountered.

In case you don't want to wait for the new leak, or spend 2 bucks. Here's a workaround to reset the curse bar:

Open console with shift+o and put this command:

pris.body.lock.hp = 0

And yeah, for old players saves will most likely won't work so use the "paths" option from the main menu to skip to v0.4.3. Then play through Ceci's content or Ceci and Sera, whatever you want. Sera's content is optional.
You don't need to skip manually or go through the entire game or anything like that, just use the skip feature in the game (paths).

Does that mean that the old save won't work on bugfix version either?

 

[nitrolith]

Don't do this please. Those look good on elena. I think it would better if all the girls got similar piercings and tattoos.

In her solo ending, they'll likely be removed.
But in harem and possibly other endings they'll stay.

This is for variety's sake and to make the endings as distinct as possible.

 

[rangaru]

All can be good, depends on the execution.

I read hundreds stories where people tried to write "evil side" and it always seem to fall apart, when authors start to like characters too much or self-insert themself in them. It beggins sudden disconnect, where authors forgets why they are doing evil and either abandon it or force by edgy teenager shit.
So far characters and story seems to be well tought-out enough that I could only compare it to the first incarnation of Ker's Harem (which was so dark that it caused him to be mentally hospitalised) and Reverend Insanity novel, which was too evil even for Chinese goverment so they are banned it. So don't sell yourself short, I would even buy a book you wrote.

 

[Lewyn Collins]

I'm assuming you're talking about Elena?
No, most of her events will feature those things.
But I think in her ending they'll likely be removed.

Oh that's good. A little variety helps.

 

[daycallmebiggnutt]

In her solo ending, they'll likely be removed.
But in harem and possibly other endings they'll stay.

This is for variety's sake and to make the endings as distinct as possible.

Damn that's sad. Though I guess it wouldn't be impossible to make a mod that removes them in the harem ending. I'm not an artist but I think I might be competent enough to redraw without the piercings and tattoos. If I understand right the harem ending will be a darker path?

 

[nitrolith]

Does that mean that the old save won't work on bugfix version either?

Probably, depends how far back it is. If it's just after doing the Sera content from last update, it probably won't work very well. But if it was during Elena's or before, it should work I think.

In my opinion, the best strategy is to use paths and play through the new content after every update.
If you want to revisit scenes, full gallery unlock is built in the game (haven't added this update's content yet though). Save shouldn't be necessary to follow the game.

I read hundreds stories where people tried to write "evil side" and it always seem to fall apart, when authors start to like characters too much or self-insert themself in them. It beggins sudden disconnect, where authors forgets why they are doing evil and either abandon it or force by edgy teenager shit.
So far characters and story seems to be well tought-out enough that I could only compare it to the first incarnation of Ker's Harem (which was so dark that it caused him to be mentally hospitalised) and Reverend Insanity novel, which was too evil even for Chinese goverment so they are banned it. So don't sell yourself short, I would even buy a book you wrote.

Hmm, didn't think of it that way.
Thanks, I appreciate it!

Damn that's sad. Though I guess it wouldn't be impossible to make a mod that removes them in the harem ending. I'm not an artist but I think I might be competent enough to redraw without the piercings and tattoos. If I understand right the harem ending will be a darker path?

Harem ending is what people expect of harem with these kinds of stories but with a few twists.
It's not that dark I think, but Mars is more burdened as he has to carry way more things on his back now.

 

[darius25]

how do the event for buying the outfit for the hero i have done all sera content all date events and i spam training what am i missing

 

[Zay the retard]

So about the ending will there be only like solo charcter ending and harem ending?Or will there be a good and bad ending for solo charcter ending?Or will there be more ending which are not harem but not also solo charcter ending?Or will there be like ending 1, ending 2 as netural ending aside from the solo charcter ending?

And among them how many of them will have like literal wholesome ending?Asking out of curiosity.

 

[Hazery]

Hello nitrolith , when i play this one i was kinda shocked that i actually have a save from 2021 LOL, didn't realize i've actually play this game before, and i actually really like this concept of a game. And i've pretty much enjoy the dialogue, and feel sympathy for some of the character here!

Anyway i wanted to report some visual typo, during Cecilia breast milk problem the woman npc line actually just says woman 2 even though the pov have switched

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And this keep happening for the rest of the dialogue. I know this is just a minor typo but for some reason this thing bug me a lot that i feel the need to report this LMAO, anyway thanks for the update, you earn another fan of this game!

 

[nitrolith]

how do the event for buying the outfit for the hero i have done all sera content all date events and i spam training what am i missing

You have to do the fitness training with Cecille during the morning. It should tell you when it's available in the shop after a couple of events.

So about the ending will there be only like solo charcter ending and harem ending?Or will there be a good and bad ending for solo charcter ending?Or will there be more ending which are not harem but not also solo charcter ending?Or will there be like ending 1, ending 2 as netural ending aside from the solo charcter ending?

And among them how many of them will have like literal wholesome ending?Asking out of curiosity.

What's planned is a solo ending for each heroine, a harem ending, a big bad ending and a special ending (Vi's ending).
Vi's ending will only be unlocked after harem, but I might make the requirement to see all endings. I'll see how I feel about it once we get to it.

If after that, there is room to include some new ending. or If a lot of people request an ending, I'll do it as long as it's reasonable.

As for wholesomeness...
Generally speaking, the solo heroine endings provide a good outcome for that heroine and pretty bad for the rest.
Harem is good for everyone, but Mars maybe not so much.
Vi's ending is special, it's the last ending in the game. I think it's wholesome enough for Vi and Mars.

Hello nitrolith , when i play this one i was kinda shocked that i actually have a save from 2021 LOL, didn't realize i've actually play this game before, and i actually really like this concept of a game. And i've pretty much enjoy the dialogue, and feel sympathy for some of the character here!

Anyway i wanted to report some visual typo, during Cecilia breast milk problem the woman npc line actually just says woman 2 even though the pov have switched

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I know this is just a minor typo but for some reason this thing bug me a lot that i feel the need to report this LMAO, anyway thanks for the update, you earn another fan of this game!

lol, thanks for reporting that. Appreciated!

 

[Basement Dweller]

In her solo ending, they'll likely be removed.
But in harem and possibly other endings they'll stay.

This is for variety's sake and to make the endings as distinct as possible.

Said this again here in the past, but I'll reiterate: just do your own thing. By that I mean, don't be too quick to acquiesce to your public/patreon ideas - not only because they are many and thus have heterogeneous preferences that thus make it pretty hard or even impossible to keep everyone happy, but also, because it may create problems in mantaining a cohesive plotline - while also believing in your own writing skills. I know the original idea with Elena (parasite) went through some changes, and I imagine it will happen with the ending as well (Cecille + Lavinia, Erin + Elena, Sera, Harem were the initial plan iirc, right? Though I assume now they'll be different), but don't comprimise too much over your own vision to accomodate demands, is what I'm saying!

Personally, if quality stays the same (and I have no basis on which to assume that it will drop soon), I am pretty fine with anything.

I have been following the project since the beginning and, I'll be honest: at first I came for the art style, whilst not expecting a particularly impressive plot (as it's often the case with this subgenre). Now, I can say that it is one of the titles whose updates I look forward the most, and mostly for the narrative instead. As much as I have some gripes on how the Elena Corruption Arc ended (mostly I just think she falls a bit too fast at the end), I still think it had the biggest impact for me, narratively speaking, expecially with the peek over Mars' past (Ophelia's death details, etc), and the introduction of Diana (seeing her die to the very weapon she nurtured, a victim to the same "love" she had labelled as poison in her rage and despair, was tragically sad) and tied quite decently with the Arc Ending ("Mother is here"). Really interested in seeing how things will go, and also future interactions with his half-sister.

This was just a roundabout way to give you compliments, and tell you to trust your own writing capabilities. Not trying to kiss your arse or anything, mind you, just think that credit should be given were due. And for now you have sorely deserved it, in my humble opinion.

PS: ...Since I am here writing, random question: does the eldrich component of the "cheat" option has a relevance in the plot, or it's just for flavor? I assume the former (and honestly, considering that Vi already works part-time as a "gallery keeper" as well, it was pretty obvious that something is going on...) but, I'm gonna ask anyway out of curiosity. A "Yes/No" type answer is fine if you prefer, no need to delve too much into it - some secrets are meant to stay hidden, at least until the time is ripe.