Ren'Py Hero Party Must Fall [v0.5.5 Bugfix 1] [Nitrolith]

[timmy95]

I know the original idea with Elena (parasite) went through some changes

What was the original idea? I'm curious.

 

[nitrolith]

Said this again here in the past, but I'll reiterate: just do your own thing. By that I mean, don't be too quick to acquiesce to your public/patreon ideas - not only because they are many and thus have heterogeneous preferences that thus make it pretty hard or even impossible to keep everyone happy, but also, because it may create problems in mantaining a cohesive plotline - while also believing in your own writing skills. I know the original idea with Elena (parasite) went through some changes, and I imagine it will happen with the ending as well (Cecille + Lavinia, Erin + Elena, Sera, Harem were the initial plan iirc, right? Though I assume now they'll be different), but don't comprimise too much over your own vision to accomodate demands, is what I'm saying!

Personally, if quality stays the same (and I have no basis on which to assume that it will drop soon), I am pretty fine with anything.

I have been following the project since the beginning and, I'll be honest: at first I came for the art style, whilst not expecting a particularly impressive plot (as it's often the case with this subgenre). Now, I can say that it is one of the titles whose updates I look forward the most, and mostly for the narrative instead. As much as I have some gripes on how the Elena Corruption Arc ended (mostly I just think she falls a bit too fast at the end), I still think it had the biggest impact for me, narratively speaking, expecially with the peek over Mars' past (Ophelia's death details, etc), and the introduction of Diana (seeing her die to the very weapon she nurtured, a victim to the same "love" she had labelled as poison in her rage and despair, was tragically sad) and tied quite decently with the Arc Ending ("Mother is here"). Really interested in seeing how things will go, and also future interactions with his half-sister.

This was just a roundabout way to give you compliments, and tell you to trust your own writing capabilities. Not trying to kiss your arse or anything, mind you, just think that credit should be given were due. And for now you have sorely deserved it, in my humble opinion.

PS: ...Since I am here writing, random question: does the eldrich component of the "cheat" option has a relevance in the plot, or it's just for flavor? I assume the former (and honestly, considering that Vi already works part-time as a "gallery keeper" as well, it was pretty obvious that something is going on...) but, I'm gonna ask anyway out of curiosity. A "Yes/No" type answer is fine if you prefer, no need to delve too much into it - some secrets are meant to stay hidden, at least until the time is ripe.

Thanks for the kind words, that means a lot to me.

Well, my approach is that I follow the design document that describes story beats, endings, ect.
In case someone provides an interesting idea, I try to implement it on the way there.
The parasite thing wasn't my idea at all, it's something that was suggested to me and ended up making a poll about it.

I think my approach is sensible, I get to follow the path I planned and acknowledge people's ideas along the way if it makes sense to implement them.
The thing with "patreon game-development" is that if you actually listen to everybody, the game will never be finished.

The cheat, gallery, paths are all part of the main story.

 

[darius25]

i just noticed how poorly i worded it i have the outfit i just dont get the event i spammed out the trainings option and unlike the other ones its not saying this is as far as u can go but i feel like if i have done it 20 times i should get the event if i have the outfit might just have it bugged out will try with a fresh save from the start and see if that will let me get it

 

[nitrolith]

i just noticed how poorly i worded it i have the outfit i just dont get the event i spammed out the trainings option and unlike the other ones its not saying this is as far as u can go but i feel like if i have done it 20 times i should get the event if i have the outfit might just have it bugged out will try with a fresh save from the start and see if that will let me get it

That bug with infinite training was patched in the latest version.
You can try resetting the counter for fitness events. Use console:

p_fit_lvl = 4

Try to train fitness again and see if anything changes.
If not, just use Paths and jump to v0.4.3

 

[Basement Dweller]

Thanks for the kind words, that means a lot to me.

Just saying it how it is, friend (if I may). Not much reason to lie here, and on this site of all places.
If you liked something, you tell the person who made that particular thing, that he's done a fantastic job. And that you did.

The parasite thing wasn't my idea at all, it's something that was suggested to me and ended up making a poll about it.
The cheat, gallery, paths are all part of the main story.

Honestly, I didn't know that: I mean, I knew about the poll and the results but - and I was basing this on one of your previous messages - I always though the original idea was yours and you just went with the "Vox Populi, Vox Dei" approach. Oh, well, then!

...Okay, so it was as I imagined. Just asked to see if it was "flavour" to "justify the cheat system", or, if it had story implementations as I surmised it had. Though I must say, this makes Vi slightly more unsettling than I first imagined, haha...

I think my approach is sensible, I get to follow the path I planned and acknowledge people's ideas along the way if it makes sense to implement them. The thing with "patreon game-development" is that if you actually listen to everybody, the game will never be finished.

I agree as well. As long as you're able to mantain a conductor position (to make an analogy) and keep order in a way that prevents ideas to derange into a chaotic cacophony, all is well. As for the second part, I'm afraid you've said it as it is - though I'm sure some devs wouldn't mind that, haha. Although, it always tends to backfire in the end...

 

[w.iT]

How far are we from reaching ending for this game?

 

[haroon132]

Not available for Android?

 

[Hardcore1234]

I don't wanna screw Erin, just cuck him and have him crying while I have sex with all his loved ones in front of him (he can jerk off while crying if he wants )
really hoping for cuck/SPH path.
thank you so much nitrolith for creating this incredible game.

 

[nitrolith]

How far are we from reaching ending for this game?

Hard to estimate exactly but Sera and Ceci have only 1 more solo focus update each, Elena has 2 left.
After that we're at the end game...

I don't wanna screw Erin, just cuck him and have him crying while I have sex with all his loved ones in front of him (he can jerk off while crying if he wants )
really hoping for cuck/SPH path.
thank you so much nitrolith for creating this incredible game.

Thanks,
Yeah it's possible to ignore him all together.

 

[pr0dukt]

turning him into a women would kill the vibe btw its him being a guy that makes it nice

Sounds kinda gay tho... but maybe that's just me.. I like my women dick-free whenever possible. and 'guys' can well, fuck off.. Mars got enough dick to go around, as he's proven time and time again. What good is there in keeping a little dicklet like erin around, if not to bully and make fun of? At least turning him into a woman spares him from the cruel fate he will no doubt suffer as a male.

 

[snazzlefrazzle]

Is there a mac version of 0.4.7?

 

[rangaru]

At least turning him into a woman spares him from the cruel fate he will no doubt suffer as a male.

Turning him into a woman makes it gay, keeping him around does not since to be gay you need to have sex with men. You do if you castrate him, you do not if you not. It's not a rocket science.

Moreover porn games suffer from lack of the male characters other than MC, which imo crates really boring dynamic. I would like to see more male characters, some competition and struggle, not less.

 

[istlover08]

Are you using an old save? if you've done the skip from paths, you shouldn't get a read book option.
If you did the skip and still get the read book option, send me your save and let me take a look.

About handholding... are you talking about the scene where you keep Erin company? you can just not do that.
If you ignore Erin and answer unfavorably you won't get any content with him.

i am using an old save and still have the read book option as well here is my save if you would like it

 

[BeBusta]

Is there anything new in this update? Changelog shows nothing

 

[Alandir]

Hard to estimate exactly but Sera and Ceci have only 1 more solo focus update each, Elena has 2 left.
After that we're at the end game...

So I'm guessing we get one elena focus update and then one for each for after the hero fight?

 

[damias]

i really hope we get more interaction with vi...and/or the fade to black with her in the prologue curently ...i know her and helena are side characters so they dont get main games or scenes... but cmon vi is suposed to be is partner in crime and only confident...i really hope they add stuff to do with vi....sexual and not sexual

 

[OhHeyMarrk]

Anyone know how to progress after doing all of seras night events and cecis day training? ceci has the belly button ring and had the giantess shapeshifting scene with erin, however only the maid option says progress with night activities to continue but none will trigger.

 

[Omae wa shinda]

"Will you be able to pull it off? Or will you fail in your mission? "

JIBUN BUWO!!!!

 

[seville21]

That bug with infinite training was patched in the latest version.
You can try resetting the counter for fitness events. Use console:

p_fit_lvl = 4

Try to train fitness again and see if anything changes.
If not, just use Paths and jump to v0.4.3

hey nitrolith tried it and it worked. but once i got to the point where mars gives him his cape the entire event string resets. tried using the console again but with higher levels like 5-9 but the only thing that happens is the outfit gets dupped in the store and now the event only shows the first stretching scene. you said this is already patched in the patreon build right? sucks that i cant get to the end of the update i really wanted to see what that whole evil ceci cg was.

 

[AL.d]

Starting from paths results in gamestopping error when you finish Sera's second night battle.