Qianke

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I think Vi is the most important factor in the game that guide Mars behind the scene to his ultimate happiness, as you can see in
Bad ending where Erin kill himself and Goddess punish Mars by making him wander aimlessly finding Vi in lifeless earth. Before it end, we see Vi but she is not our Vi we familiar with, and then we return to the choice as if she is the one who rewind the time to prevent it to happend . And with her being in Path, Memories, Cheating menu. I'm 100% sure she supporting us even from the alternative world or difference timeline where Mars not being happy
she is just a narrative tool to move the story forward when convenient. Your post reeks of lack of literary expertise
 

69BOI69

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I was kinda hoping wouldn't turn to the dark side () but it does fit with the theme of being unable to escape your natural self.
 
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she is just a narrative tool to move the story forward when convenient. Your post reeks of lack of literary expertise
Doesn't mean narratively speaking Mars mental and emotional state isn't linked to her, sure the way she is used is almost exclusively to push the story foward, her character is almost one-dimensional because she cannot be allowed to take up too much screen time, but what the dude said is true, you literally get an ending were Mars has to live forever trying to find a suicidal Vi, safe to say whitout Vi Mars mental fortitude crumbles almost inmediatelly, at least that is what the game is narrating to us and we can see that.
 
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Just found this game and so far the story is great and it's decently long too. The protagonist is different from the usual and feels like an actual person with his morals being gray instead of black and white plus the women feel like characters with personality. The slow and steady corruption is a slow burn that adds to the story and characters.
 

Armi85

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Please help me, I have only opened this scene now or maybe I have opened 1-2 more scenes but I don't know what to do next. Currently, I can only interact with cecille in the evening ( train ) or in the morning when she is with erin (6 actions lvl 1 ), Iris and Sera then I can only talk. As for Lavinia, I've dated her 3 times and now I can only talk to her. As for Vi, I can only cheat the game, talking has nothing to do
Bonus : Floor 39, Mihra was fucked and now when interacting with her she is thanking me, Julia just fucked ( ???? ), Yvet is pregnant and goes to see her parents

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DavyDaoist

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Haven’t been here in a while, hope everyone is going well. How’s the update going time wise ? General idea for the date ?
 

Alandir

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In the previews sera can be seen at breakfast with a mug. Anyone know how to get that, I only ever got the teacup.
Also from the previews, there's a female npc with brown hair who's not the housewife. Is she in yet, or is she planned for the future?
 

RoxTheVile

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The only canonical reason why we don't have femboy Erin already in the game is cause Nitro can't work as well with a massive hard on so he keeps delaying that juicy juicy goodness.
 

69BOI69

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In the previews sera can be seen at breakfast with a mug. Anyone know how to get that, I only ever got the teacup.
Also from the previews, there's a female npc with brown hair who's not the housewife. Is she in yet, or is she planned for the future?
Whenever Erin and Cecille meet at the gazebo (second further left place), there's a girl stalking them from behind it. That's the other brown hair girl.
 

69BOI69

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Cecille is a cunt and she will do as cunts do, be a cunt. It's on Erin for not being man enough to say no and maintain his own boundaries.

And once again it comes down to Erin's inability to manage his boundaries. He doesn't feel the same way Sera does but he does like her enough to continually lead her on and get mad when she eventually moves on. He should have either put his foot down and taken control of his own relationships Cecille be damned, or cut Sera lose in a humane way before leading her on her entire life. Not discounting how much is Cecille's fault, but Erin's inability to say no and to be walked all over like a dickless simp is entirely on him.

It's been pretty well confirmed that all of Mars' main girls, including Erin, are going to have generally positive relations with him once the harem path and individual paths open up. Maybe people who're excluding Erin from their harems will get him a bad ending but as I understand fem Erin is all in on his relationship with Mars.
Erin doesn't know how to maintain boundaries nor is he even mature enough to understand that. It's not his fault he is coddled and didn't develop like most people do. His father died either before he was born or shortly after and as we can see, his mother is very dotting, so he didn't have a father or disiplinary figure that we know of.

I don't think Erin could cut off Sera without her killing herself (unless what happened happens). She has proven she would die for Erin and it doesn't seem like Erin understood that nor was it really communicated.

Similar logic could be applied to Cecille, she grew up worse than being adopted and her mother was a prostitute. I think she's a sociopath because she is still emotional. Sociopaths are made during childhood, not born. The main difference is that she knows what she was doing was wrong and would turn out shitty so she could reasonably be guilty.


All of that to say, how much can you blame someone if they can't comprehend it?
 
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Please help me, I have only opened this scene now or maybe I have opened 1-2 more scenes but I don't know what to do next. Currently, I can only interact with cecille in the evening ( train ) or in the morning when she is with erin (6 actions lvl 1 ), Iris and Sera then I can only talk. As for Lavinia, I've dated her 3 times and now I can only talk to her. As for Vi, I can only cheat the game, talking has nothing to do
Bonus : Floor 39, Mihra was fucked and now when interacting with her she is thanking me, Julia just fucked ( ???? ), Yvet is pregnant and goes to see her parents

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You are not supposed to get those actions, you see, you open more and more options to choose from as the story progress, as for now, Cecille only got 2 stages (the second one with more options of course), and Sera got 3 (same as before). Cecille is missing some actions due to her arc hasn't finished yet, so what you are experimenting in the training stages is normal, wait for the next update. Usually, the way to progress in the story, is to train at night with either Cecille or Sera (depending on the arc), meanwhile, while the story progresses try to explore (mostly at mornings/afternoons, rarely at evenings or nights) the NPC's at the city town, your room, outside your room and the one hiding behind the chapel looking building where Cecille and Erin can be found at mornings, also, visit Lavinia or the Queen of ALL the Demons (can't remember her name) every afternoon and/or evening to see if there is something new. PRO TIP: Don't even waste your time in the dungeon, as for now, it's only a showcase, as it doesn't has any influence in anything in the game right now.

Thank you for reading my essay. :coffee:
 
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Erin doesn't know how to maintain boundaries nor is he even mature enough to understand that. It's not his fault he is coddled and didn't develop like most people do. His father died either before he was born or shortly after and as we can see, his mother is very dotting, so he didn't have a father or disiplinary figure that we know of.

I don't think Erin could cut off Sera without her killing herself (unless what happened happens). She has proven she would die for Erin and it doesn't seem like Erin understood that nor was it really communicated.

Similar logic could be applied to Cecille, she grew up worse than being adopted and her mother was a prostitute. I think she's a sociopath because she is still emotional. Sociopaths are made during childhood, not born. The main difference is that she knows what she was doing was wrong and would turn out shitty so she could reasonably be guilty.


All of that to say, how much can you blame someone if they can't comprehend it?
Even tho, whit Cecille, i know about psychology and Cecille, since day one, has shown to be a RAGING Narcissist, and a
Machiavellian (Someone who plots and manipulates for their own benefit while excusing that their actions thinking the ends justify the means)
her entire world revolves around her, she is also a sadist sure, but her narcissism outweights her sadism by TONS, everything that ever happens to her HAS to be justified in such a way that makes her look good in her delusional brain, even if she ruined the Hero, lost her virginity to a demon and almost doomed the world, is using everyone around her for her own benefit, Sociopaths are unable to empathize whit other people, i dont know if she is fully a Sociopath because at the beginning of the game she did show true concern for the consequences of her actions, but because of her Delusion about herself she didnt weight in just HOW much she screwed up, but she is a raging Narcissist no doubt, but the more we play the more Sociopathic she becomes, maybe she showing her true colours or her delusions are so pumped up she doesnt care about nobody anymore but herself.

But the thing is, regardless of Mars influence, Cecille was playing for herself since day one, using everyone for her own benefit because in her mind she deserves it.

If Mars wants to truly break this insane woman he has to fundamentally destroy her delusions, which she uses as a defence mechanism to even EXIST, basically the dude has to reset her brain almost completely, this woman has been lying and manipulating up since she knew how to speak
 
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