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Who's the last side character in the status screen? Shows as what looks like a maid silhouette with the name "????"
 

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LMAO both erin AND mars have NO father figure.
They're 2sides if the same coin.
Mars had his sexualy abusive step mom, trained to seduce.
Erin had his sexualy repressive mom, trained to serve.
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There's also the added fact of the matter about emotions: this game actually understands women to a shocking degree.
Women LOVE emotions. It's the law to them, more than objective truth, beliefs, or responsibility.
Mar's: step-mom taught him to weaponize emotions. Using it to cause a rollercoaster of emotions, gaslighting, love bombing, and pure physical attraction. He is the ultimate weapon against women. It even killed his step-mother(she was insane tho)
Nothing kills a woman more than a pimp.
Erin's: Mom taught him to repression and servitude. Her love language was service and attention seeking, and it's all she really taught him. She taught him caretaking, cooking, cleaning, even washing(he did it for Cecile often)
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His Pededestal placing of women as taught by his mother. She was the BEST priestess by far, and very sexy- And erin being attracted to the woman he looked up to was a bad combination.
She was the one who originally used to 'service-reward' structure he lived by. When he struggled with insecurities, she only offered the same 'service-reward' structure for life- which left him emotionaly unequiped for the real worlds cruel nature.
She also only had eyes for her son and wanted him to be the ideal man she couldn't have for herself. She often crossed the line taking naked baths with him past his naive age, and even having him rub her feet so much he became a foot fetishist.
The ogling he did to her went un-discussed and normalized. Erin unabashedly mentions Elena's body in public in a very Freudian way.
As mother and son, Elena never set boundaries, while Erin seems to never have crossed it out of fear. He grew up to be emotionally stunted, timid around women, and to serve them.
Cecile only took one look at him a when they met, she was disappointed with him.
Nothing digusts a woman more than a wimp
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Cecile becomes the nexus of these two males.
Where as Mars was taught to break women like Cecile
Erin was taught to be enslaved to them.
It was doomed from the start.
The more I see people breakdown the story and characters for this game. the less I want to get involved with it. moral degradation of this level is honestly kinda creepy. Which makes sense no one going through should come out completely sane
 
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The more I see people breakdown the story and characters for this game. the less I want to get involved with it. moral degradation of this level is honestly kinda creepy. Which since no one going through should come out completely sane
It's actually impressive. Everyone started out pretty fucked up but the more the game progressed the more it was revealed that everyone was even more fucked up than originally expected. And somehow it keeps getting worse. They're horribly fucked up people that got screwed over in their growth in some way or another leaving them as the dysfunctional emotional messes they are now, that somehow find a way to sort of work together. Well either that or they'll end up breaking each other even more than before.

Originally I just played it because Netori and was looking forward to just screwing Erin over and having Mars take all the girls but now... Well maybe I'm the weird one but the more I read and the more messed up I found everyone was, the more pity I felt and the more I kinda started hoping for a happy ending. Like, holy shit these people are fucked, they deserve some happiness in the garbage world they live in.
 

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"this game actually understands women to a shocking degree." The pillow talk and how Cecille behaved was lifechanging, it was the only reason I kept playing the game, sometimes I wondered if the game wasn't made by a women, is there any other game that gets into women mind as much as this one? I stopped playing coz it started turning too gayish and Mars wasn't acting like he did at the start, it seemed like the game became a parody or something
Life changing? In what way?
like a:
"oh shit, I never imagined a woman could think like this, even in fiction"
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"Wtf this woman is unbelievable, who writes this stuff without having lived through something like this?"
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"I think women kinda scare me"
 

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Nitrolith addressed both the use of AI and the inconsistencies in their art on Discord. Since none of you could be bothered to look it up I did it for you. Here you go:

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Nice to see they proved that they still do their art for the most part.
the story is a bit to insane for someone to call it 'practice' tho. It sounds absurd when you think about everything thats happened.
 

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When are the dates with Lavinia meant to trigger? I got the event to give her the idea but nothing has come of it besides her just saying how excited she is.
 
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This game reeks of incest despite not actually having it. I am actually impressed
What do you mean? Incest is present in this game and it's happening between multiple families. And maybe I'm making it up but I think I remember Mars implying to Elena that his mother was so fucked up that she also did it with him to train him or some shit, but I'm not sure.
 

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What do you mean? Incest is present in this game and it's happening between multiple families. And maybe I'm making it up but I think I remember Mars implying to Elena that his mother was so fucked up that she also did it with him to train him or some shit, but I'm not sure.
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I said it reeks of incest because
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If you can give me concrete example, I would be happy to listen
 

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With that definition almost all games on this website would be NTR
It's only N(a)T(u)R(al) to be confused by this. You see, any word with the letters N, T, and R in it obviously means NTR. As a simple experiment, look at any packaged food. It has N(u)TR(itional) data listed on it, and the manufacturer definitely doesn't know you've been sticking your grubby hands inside it's box behind their back ... NTR. It doesn't matter that the meanings of the words themselves are vastly different or that they don't fit into the same sub-genre. Those are just things that (i)N(s)T(igato)R(s) online try to focus on to mislead us from the truth. That nobody can say what these words mean because definitions are (u)N(de)T(e)R(minable) and all that matters is your personal (i)NT(e)R(ests).
 

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What idiot came up with this term "NTR", what wrong with words "cheating" or "sharing", it just confuses, everyone means something different.
 
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You forgot about that blonde girl from the village having sex with Mars and her mother but I also believe that Elena x Erin qualifies as incest.

What idiot came up with this term "NTR", what wrong with words "cheating" or "sharing", it just confuses, everyone means something different.
cheating is an encompassing term. Sharing is more consensual with both parties agreeing to sex outside the relationship, NTR is when the party being cheated knows that their partner is unfaithful and is jealous, with big emphasis on jealous.
 
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As for me, they're part of the reason why the world is shit and doesn't deserve any happiness in the end.
Yeah, also a rather fair take but seeing as they are the characters the story follows and the ones we as players are more invested in, I'm willing to give them some more pity. Don't get me wrong they're all horrible people and the way they were grew, tragic or not, doesn't excuse how terrible they are now but "something something second chances" or whatever lol.
 

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What idiot came up with this term "NTR", what wrong with words "cheating" or "sharing", it just confuses, everyone means something different.
It's a term that works as long as people don't use it for Netori. If it's used for Netori as well then it loses all meaning. You have NTR for Netorare(cheating), NTS for Netorase(sharing) while Netori is really just vanilla porn.
 

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There is also the second sister of the demon king who had one hell of a crush on her brother before she turned into a mess by Mars on Lavinia's advice. Those three we're born to the previous demon king and queen who we're also brother and sister so yeah we don't see it (yet ?) but it's heavily implied.

Mars and his step-sister who hates him to the core could have been an incest path too but the lore tell us otherwise maybe possible if the child he had with his step-mother survived without Mars knowledge but I doubt it.
 
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