d2dacameron
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End of act 2/beginning of act 3, before the timeskip.
I think you are only given the option if you are NOT on Erin's route, at least from my memory.
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I think you are only given the option if you are NOT on Erin's route, at least from my memory.
SinisterPortal
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I've been sleeping on this game because I thought it's NTR. Stupid me... I was confusing this with Dark Hero Party that NTR crowd scares normal people with. If only I knew it's NETORI earlier, the game seems awesome
Is it just me, or is Mars becoming darker and darker? Could someone make a mod to make him less dark? If so thanks in advanced
Yes, he obviously has become a lot darker. That's a controversial topic with this game though so don't be surprised if your comment gets deleted. Maybe someone will make a mod after the game is completed, but I wouldn't count on it.
Fair enough, and why is it controversial? The developer can do what he wants, it's just that I liked Mars better when he was lighter skined no hate mend to the developer
People don't like it when you say that you preferred Mars when his skin was lighter.
Finally caught up to latest version and wow. Sera is amazing omg. The loyalty and dedication on that girl wow. Marrying her is most definitely my main playthrough. I did create 3 other saves for Ceci, Erin, and Elena paths but I completely missed the Lucia training the sister of Lavinia before the time skip. This Game definitely needs some better structuring or guide otherwise content will be missed. Still 5 out of 5 from me.
YarrYarrBinks
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When i'm in a high quality art competition and my opponent has a NTR tag
guys, afer the royal family comes to the new village and the game changes, progress doesn't seem to be saved. like, the ninja clan plotline was shown twice in my playtrough. and cedric reset too. am i doing something wrong?
I believe it's still a WIP, probably end of content for this update.
I've spent a lot of time on this game and I wanted to vent a bit.
First and foremost, I love this game. I don't want my criticisms to disparage my garnered enjoyment of such an engaging game. All the elements, while clunky right now, show amazing promise as to how the game will develop in the future and I would love to see the finished product eventually (Definitely buying). The narrative is really well crafted and the world-building is really compelling (I really liked the bad ending in part 2). The art style was quirky and rough and that's what gave it its charm, made it unique and enjoyable. The first part and the second part (mostly) have this very special style which I feel has been lost in the newer content, leading to my most reproving point; the use of AI. Let's be honest, AI has been used quite extensively from the latter end of part 2 to most of what is part 3. Vi, for example, in part 3 has her entire body generated with AI whilst her head and hands have been drawn over along with some filters and touch-ups. And the feeding scene with her is absolutely egregious as it doesn't even match the art style we had in most of part 1 or even resemble the Vi we see in the normal art style. And Mars wasn't originally black, he was a Gyaru-Oh type character that's one of the predominant archetypes of NTR antagonists alongside the black man type. If he was originally black I wouldn't have cared but shifting established traits/character design midway through the game bugs me. BUT this isn't that bad as we only see him in this style in a few scenes. Now, I really, TRUELY hope that the AI assisted/generated scenes are only placeholders for the classic art style. I don't care about shading, rough outlines or any skewed proportions; anything but AI. I don't know others feel about this so I can only speak for myself but I would rather have an extremely roughly drawn scene rather than have the generic AI generated images with filters and touch-ups added on. And wouldn't it be just as time consuming to prompt an AI image, choose an AI image to work with, add the filters, redraw any errors, add the touch ups than to just draw it from scratch. I understand that there are deadlines and that progress must be made to justify payment but I would much rather bear with a hiatus or a break due to burnout rather than skimping corners with AI. Maybe the creator is burnt out with this project. I know they interact with the community a lot but I haven't really gone over their comments to get a clearer view on things so maybe I'm wrong. It would be perfectly fine to take a break on this game, maybe to work on something else or maybe just to relax, rather than let it devolve into AI ridden muck. Maybe that's not financially viable or something ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ I don't know but if that's the case then just ignore me.
Putting that aside, the recent development into part 3 doesn't seem too focused on the main plot line. I feel like the introduction of a completely new cast of characters (most of their portraits are AI generated/assisted ヽ༼ ಠ益ಠ ༽ﾉ ) detracts from the main feel of the game. In my humble opinion, one in many thousands, I believe part 3 should be more of a sandbox epilogue rather than start something completely new. Rather than retract from the game into something completely different, I sincerely believe that trying to close loose ends and tying everything together should be the main focus of part 3. Maybe that's the intention? If so it's not approaching it well. The writing has had a decline in part 3 but since it's still in its early stages so I don't want to make any striking judgements just yet. And again, the blatant use of AI art seems extremely jarring compared to the gorgeously unique art that we were intimate with. Especially the art in the Erin route during the end of part 2 (I'm sorry but he just looks really ugly in that one prominent close up of his face during his route, mostly due to the incongruity of the AI art)(Also wish there was a bit more development between the femdom training and his relationship with Mars, there were only a few scenes as Mars to get him to fall completely which I think seems too few for someone who's been getting built up as a prominent character all throughout the game). Also what's up with the situation with the demon king? It's glossed over during part 3 but what is his reaction to Mars setting up his own faction? (Maybe it's explored more during the other routes, I haven't seen everything in the game even with the 30 hours I have in it.) Small comment from a purely preferential standpoint; I just don't like Ceci's redesign in part 3, it seems very... off? Downgraded? It comes short of how she used to look. Maybe that's intended? This is a personal opinion that no one has to agree with, just needed some place to say it.
Overall, I feel like the current development of the game is slowly deviating from the original feel of the game during its early stages and I really hope it manages to get back to how it feels during the early parts. And I just generally dislike the use of AI in the recent art. I would much rather see rough art than anything to do with AI. But that's only my opinion. Even if its just rough scrawls with basic shading (take Black Souls for example), its much more preferable than AI generated/assisted content in my opinion. I would very much like to support this game but I prefer supporting a finished product rather than supporting the production all throughout (I'm a cheapskate, sue me) which is why I may seem a little pushy in my criticisms. BUT with everything being said, I have great expectations for this game and if you read through this, get yourself some choccy milk; because you're epic. If by some crazy chance the dev reads this, I love your game and I don't want to interfere with any behind the scenes creative process so please take everything I said with a pinch of salt. You don't have to listen to me nor anyone else.
First and foremost, I love this game. I don't want my criticisms to disparage my garnered enjoyment of such an engaging game. All the elements, while clunky right now, show amazing promise as to how the game will develop in the future and I would love to see the finished product eventually (Definitely buying). The narrative is really well crafted and the world-building is really compelling (I really liked the bad ending in part 2). The art style was quirky and rough and that's what gave it its charm, made it unique and enjoyable. The first part and the second part (mostly) have this very special style which I feel has been lost in the newer content, leading to my most reproving point; the use of AI. Let's be honest, AI has been used quite extensively from the latter end of part 2 to most of what is part 3. Vi, for example, in part 3 has her entire body generated with AI whilst her head and hands have been drawn over along with some filters and touch-ups. And the feeding scene with her is absolutely egregious as it doesn't even match the art style we had in most of part 1 or even resemble the Vi we see in the normal art style. And Mars wasn't originally black, he was a Gyaru-Oh type character that's one of the predominant archetypes of NTR antagonists alongside the black man type. If he was originally black I wouldn't have cared but shifting established traits/character design midway through the game bugs me. BUT this isn't that bad as we only see him in this style in a few scenes. Now, I really, TRUELY hope that the AI assisted/generated scenes are only placeholders for the classic art style. I don't care about shading, rough outlines or any skewed proportions; anything but AI. I don't know others feel about this so I can only speak for myself but I would rather have an extremely roughly drawn scene rather than have the generic AI generated images with filters and touch-ups added on. And wouldn't it be just as time consuming to prompt an AI image, choose an AI image to work with, add the filters, redraw any errors, add the touch ups than to just draw it from scratch. I understand that there are deadlines and that progress must be made to justify payment but I would much rather bear with a hiatus or a break due to burnout rather than skimping corners with AI. Maybe the creator is burnt out with this project. I know they interact with the community a lot but I haven't really gone over their comments to get a clearer view on things so maybe I'm wrong. It would be perfectly fine to take a break on this game, maybe to work on something else or maybe just to relax, rather than let it devolve into AI ridden muck. Maybe that's not financially viable or something ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ I don't know but if that's the case then just ignore me.
Putting that aside, the recent development into part 3 doesn't seem too focused on the main plot line. I feel like the introduction of a completely new cast of characters (most of their portraits are AI generated/assisted ヽ༼ ಠ益ಠ ༽ﾉ ) detracts from the main feel of the game. In my humble opinion, one in many thousands, I believe part 3 should be more of a sandbox epilogue rather than start something completely new. Rather than retract from the game into something completely different, I sincerely believe that trying to close loose ends and tying everything together should be the main focus of part 3. Maybe that's the intention? If so it's not approaching it well. The writing has had a decline in part 3 but since it's still in its early stages so I don't want to make any striking judgements just yet. And again, the blatant use of AI art seems extremely jarring compared to the gorgeously unique art that we were intimate with. Especially the art in the Erin route during the end of part 2 (I'm sorry but he just looks really ugly in that one prominent close up of his face during his route, mostly due to the incongruity of the AI art)(Also wish there was a bit more development between the femdom training and his relationship with Mars, there were only a few scenes as Mars to get him to fall completely which I think seems too few for someone who's been getting built up as a prominent character all throughout the game). Also what's up with the situation with the demon king? It's glossed over during part 3 but what is his reaction to Mars setting up his own faction? (Maybe it's explored more during the other routes, I haven't seen everything in the game even with the 30 hours I have in it.) Small comment from a purely preferential standpoint; I just don't like Ceci's redesign in part 3, it seems very... off? Downgraded? It comes short of how she used to look. Maybe that's intended? This is a personal opinion that no one has to agree with, just needed some place to say it.
Overall, I feel like the current development of the game is slowly deviating from the original feel of the game during its early stages and I really hope it manages to get back to how it feels during the early parts. And I just generally dislike the use of AI in the recent art. I would much rather see rough art than anything to do with AI. But that's only my opinion. Even if its just rough scrawls with basic shading (take Black Souls for example), its much more preferable than AI generated/assisted content in my opinion. I would very much like to support this game but I prefer supporting a finished product rather than supporting the production all throughout (I'm a cheapskate, sue me) which is why I may seem a little pushy in my criticisms. BUT with everything being said, I have great expectations for this game and if you read through this, get yourself some choccy milk; because you're epic. If by some crazy chance the dev reads this, I love your game and I don't want to interfere with any behind the scenes creative process so please take everything I said with a pinch of salt. You don't have to listen to me nor anyone else.
BenjaminMiller
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hehehe i think they should let him be black
Man this game is becoming really boring and shitty to play. Wtf are they trying to do. The beginning was good with the corruption progression and stuff. But after elena came in, it's just become a linear visual novel with no choices, and no action. It's boring as fuck, and they just have stupid conversations for ages. I'm so tired of skipping through these prevaricating dialogues. They also keep teasing for real action, but nothing ever happens. On the rare occasion that something good does happen, the scene is ruined by a bunch of shitty dialogue again, with mars trying to sabotage and make it worse and worse. I mean, who the fuck is this for? All the characters are making each other miserable, and the viewer playing feels turned off as well. What kind of retard wrote this shit.
Game needs AI tag since it's using AI a lot, even on older portions of the game.
Sera is AI in the dungeon. NPCs have AI touch-ups in the village. Gwendolyn is AI in her scene.
It's spread across the game
Sera is AI in the dungeon. NPCs have AI touch-ups in the village. Gwendolyn is AI in her scene.
It's spread across the game
What happened to this game? New creator? New team? After battle with Erin everything makes no sense no more.
YandereThrillSeeker
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Whoever wrote the end of part 2 and the segway to part 3 needs to be let go. This went from B+ writing in general (SS for porn writing) to D tier porn writing
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The DEV says it's their Artwork test game so don't expect too much and just try to enjoy the story. At least they bother having one instead of going the Lazy route by just doing Art for Art sake.
sidorf2
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what is the song when you talk to goddes ? is it miku i hear?