Hi everyone!

[MaxPain22192]

Potentials not ruined the dev team is continuing along just without Num if they return or not after some time away

 

[oren yang gemok]

Well they are being put to 3 weeks break before Num peace out. Guess we'll see updates from them mid~late oct then

 

[TheGrandHussar]

God damn, just went to sub to the Patreon and saw it got gutted. I hope what some of y'all are saying about the rest of the team continuing development is true. Game has a shit ton of potential

 

[SolitarioMTD3000]

Damn, I completely shit my pants reading Patreo message, but seeing the comment gave me some faith, it would be a huge disgrace if this game was scrapped.

 

[Sennin]

I think most of you are involving yourselves too heavily into something that isnt your business.
Reading the threads about this it sounds like the original creator dropped the ball and the second game did a better job than the original. Instead of enjoying the games for what they are in our very small, very niche community where good original concepts are rare,there are those of you that would enflame the burning bag of shit drama and even sprinkle it with bias against adult content (which this site is all about).
If i were a mod like Thicc Lord who is already aware of this mess, id realise there are immature people in this forum not ready for the adult conversations and remove them. . .before they bring any unwanted attention.

 

[Ossasy]

this whole situation made my head spin holy shit. i was looking forward to this project. sad to see it gone this quick

 

[lkjhgtfrdsawertyujnbvffty]

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[xZeRoKuNx]

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with slightly more information regarding the situation.

Thank you brother, appreciate you

 

[Coomer4571]

I think most of you are involving yourselves too heavily into something that isnt your business.
Reading the threads about this it sounds like the original creator dropped the ball and the second game did a better job than the original. Instead of enjoying the games for what they are in our very small, very niche community where good original concepts are rare,there are those of you that would enflame the burning bag of shit drama and even sprinkle it with bias against adult content (which this site is all about).

I disagree, because i understand why people are angry lemme give you my prespective
-i saw the game and i was interested in playing,
-i played it and found myself enjoying the first mission however since it was not finished i went to the forums to ask "does this game have an ending?"
-look in the forum and saw it was locked
-learn from numirical posts that this was "inspired" from salvor deep (mind you this is the first time i learn that this game is a remake)
-played the original and saw the first two level have the EXACT SAME map (With very minor difference)!
-learn that they mention it was only inspired in the DEV NOTE section of the forum page

Now i agree that some people can be childish but you can admit not putting it as a remake (or hell even a link to the salvor deep forum page to give the creator a little credit) gives the developer a bad look, its give the intention that they are hiding the fact that this was a remake and that doestn sit well with most people as they thought they steal the game and just repost it under a different name

 

[da-fam12]

can someone give me the run down on what happened to the game? is the project being canceled? is num not creating it anymore? the more i read the more i get confused lol. just need someone to dumb down everything. hope the game doesnt get canceled. i love the art style as well.

 

[Coomer4571]

can someone give me the run down on what happened to the game?

The quick rundown:
-game release demo
-a few days later due to real life issue and/or (not confirmed) backlash from the community, the lead developer nuked all their socials (discord, patreon etc etc)
-the rest of the developer team is currently trying to gather the pieces first by rebuilding the discord server (link above)
-once it is done they plan to make a new patreon page and hopefully migrate most of the patrons to the new page to continue development


Note: all the game asset and code are fine for now with the exception of the art the lead daves make since they want to wipe their hands of this game

 

[Sennin]

I disagree, because i understand why people are angry lemme give you my prespective
-i saw the game and i was interested in playing,
-i played it and found myself enjoying the first mission however since it was not finished i went to the forums to ask "does this game have an ending?"
-look in the forum and saw it was locked
-learn from numirical posts that this was "inspired" from salvor deep (mind you this is the first time i learn that this game is a remake)
-played the original and saw the first two level have the EXACT SAME map (With very minor difference)!
-learn that they mention it was only inspired in the DEV NOTE section of the forum page

Now i agree that some people can be childish but you can admit not putting it as a remake (or hell even a link to the salvor deep forum page to give the creator a little credit) gives the developer a bad look, its give the intention that they are hiding the fact that this was a remake and that doestn sit well with most people as they thought they steal the game and just repost it under a different name

I understand your perspective but you don't understand mine and exactly prove my point.
You and the people that liked your post are more interested in the credit side of things. Theft or not, that's the business that doesn't belong here. That's between that Dev team. Not you or the other whingers and it certainly doesn't belong in this forum to dredged up, complained about and used as social cancellations. This is the kinda shit that ruins the games because the drama ruins it for everyone involved, especially the devs.
Myself and anyone else staying out of it don't have to give a fuck about it, even if you do. Take it to twitter or discord where you can encapsulate on that drama. Not here on a forum for perverts who want to enjoy the games.

 

[da-fam12]

The quick rundown:
-game release demo
-a few days later due to real life issue and/or (not confirmed) backlash from the community, the lead developer nuked all their socials (discord, patreon etc etc)
-the rest of the developer team is currently trying to gather the pieces first by rebuilding the discord server (link above)
-once it is done they plan to make a new patreon page and hopefully migrate most of the patrons to the new page to continue development


Note: all the game asset and code are fine for now with the exception of the art the lead daves make since they want to wipe their hands of this game

dang so num just decided to disappear without saying anything?

 

[xyzaxis]

I understand your perspective but you don't understand mine and exactly prove my point.
You and the people that liked your post are more interested in the credit side of things. Theft or not, that's the business that doesn't belong here. That's between that Dev team. Not you or the other whingers and it certainly doesn't belong in this forum to dredged up, complained about and used as social cancellations. This is the kinda shit that ruins the games because the drama ruins it for everyone involved, especially the devs.
Myself and anyone else staying out of it don't have to give a fuck about it, even if you do. Take it to twitter or discord where you can encapsulate on that drama. Not here on a forum for perverts who want to enjoy the games.

Contradicting, repeating yourself and your defense on why everyone is angry/confused = trolling because you don't care enough to read up on anything & believe it's the community's fault for having an opinion.

 

[Sennin]

Contradicting, repeating yourself and your defense on why everyone is angry/confused = trolling because you don't care enough to read up on anything & believe it's the community's fault for having an opinion.

You are one of the main problems on this front xyzaxis and projecting onto me doesn't discount anything I have said. I suggest you take your grief elsewhere.

 

[xyzaxis]

You are one of the main problems on this front xyzaxis and projecting onto me doesn't discount anything I have said. I suggest you take your grief elsewhere.

It's not hard to see through your ragebait

 

[Coomer4571]

dang so num just decided to disappear without saying anything?

Yea their last mention of it was in the patreon, BUT i did see them in the new server today talking to the community and saying final farewells (i think)

 

[oren yang gemok]

I disagree, because i understand why people are angry lemme give you my prespective
-i saw the game and i was interested in playing,
-i played it and found myself enjoying the first mission however since it was not finished i went to the forums to ask "does this game have an ending?"
-look in the forum and saw it was locked
-learn from numirical posts that this was "inspired" from salvor deep (mind you this is the first time i learn that this game is a remake)
-played the original and saw the first two level have the EXACT SAME map (With very minor difference)!
-learn that they mention it was only inspired in the DEV NOTE section of the forum page

Now i agree that some people can be childish but you can admit not putting it as a remake (or hell even a link to the salvor deep forum page to give the creator a little credit) gives the developer a bad look, its give the intention that they are hiding the fact that this was a remake and that doestn sit well with most people as they thought they steal the game and just repost it under a different name

Yeah I gotta say it is indeed a lapse in disclaiming that the game is a fan remake. Those that never knew salvor deep and discovered sunken veil first might look it the different way. Idk. From what I see it is still a dumpsterfire caused by sheer misunderstanding that could've been avoided if both actually communicate with each other. About the disclaimer, it is already in game in the credits. Prolly thats why Num thinks there isnt the need to write it again in sunken veil thread (which got added later on). Maybe it should have been added to begin with but I digress

As for me I discovered salvor deep first, then saw talks on making a fan remake within the same month the game is released in the idea of adding more content to the game and possibly making it modular mapwise, allowing community added maps. Then patreon got started with rather decent number of members. Lots of polls and suggestions within the community leading the game being rebuild on godot and slowly changing the characters and such. Since the game is intended to be free, prolly Num thinks it is not needed to keep pinging Del for new updates on where the game is heading and such(?)



If I wanna give my two cents I'm surprised Num never really shared any insights with Del mid development, so as I'm surprised Del never really wondered to check how other dev trying to make a fangame out of their work.

 

[Thicc Lord]

I think most of you are involving yourselves too heavily into something that isnt your business.
Reading the threads about this it sounds like the original creator dropped the ball and the second game did a better job than the original. Instead of enjoying the games for what they are in our very small, very niche community where good original concepts are rare,there are those of you that would enflame the burning bag of shit drama and even sprinkle it with bias against adult content (which this site is all about).
If i were a mod like Thicc Lord who is already aware of this mess, id realise there are immature people in this forum not ready for the adult conversations and remove them. . .before they bring any unwanted attention.

If I were to remove immature people, not ready for adult conversations, then we would lose well over 50% of our user base in one night.
The new thread was locked, once it settles down I will unlock it and issue a warning post to anyone not following the rules.
Then the thread bans will come in.

When will that happen? When I feel enough time has passed that the ragebaiters and trolls have moved on to something else.

It's also worth mentioning that the Mod team may be aware of an issue, but that doesn't mean we're watching everything all the time. There's 16 million messages on this forum, we rely on reports for most of the issues.

 

[lkjhgtfrdsawertyujnbvffty]

If I wanna give my two cents I'm surprised Num never really shared any insights with Del mid development, so as I'm surprised Del never really wondered to check how other dev trying to make a fangame out of their work.

Del and Num had a falling out, twice. The second time Del was permanently banned from the SV server and he didn't want to interact with Num or the SV team after everything. That's why he knew basically squat about what was happening during the development.