Shark1701HD
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- Feb 19, 2023
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It seems that I don't need to redraw Alice for now. (And also that's why no Alice-hilichurl CG, because I don' want to redraw them in the future)
No. but I will allow mods in the future so you can add your own characters to the game
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Ergonomicsheep
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- Apr 25, 2022
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I was making a crack about the fact that several of the EN voice actors are going to remain silent for this patch. The idea that the reason for that is because their mouths are stuffed with hilichurl amuses me somewhat.
Shark1701HD
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- Feb 19, 2023
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sorry for misunderstanding. wasn't my intention. I read a little to quick through that first comment you made and only after re-reading it I understood what you meant.
doesnt this make sumeru have only 5 possible candidate (candace dehya nilou faruzan leyla) even if you add jeht and rukka it still 7 compare to whole huge map like that seem not enough somehow
GrogGuy
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Thanks for the detailed reply, that was super informative! I'll try another play though and follow some of those tips!
I was doing well enough for an early try at the game, but I definitely corrupted far too many people to put into combat and losing out on unit diversity for the rest of the play-through feels kinda meh even if its doable. Good to know a bit more about the masks too. I played pretty carefully and didn't lose many commanders of the higher tiers so I never actually got masks to play around with.
- Jan 29, 2025
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I guess Dori is safe. Besides, if there are not enough vision-holders I can always add more training NPCs. Jeht and Tadhla for exapmle, and Goddess of flower could be resurrected and possess Babel (just like Havria and Wanyan). Also don't forget Rana, the Aranyaka quest girl who got a vision in the end.
The bigger problem is Fontain, whose the troop are mainly melusines, which I doubt if, emm...
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Tattletale21
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well, a way to get around an area not having enough heroines to capture could be to simply make the female monsters of that area capturable. the various whomperflowers, some monster could be given female traits, etcetera. or, you could age up some of the more 'definitely loli' characters to fill in numbers; you could even make it tie in to the alchemy system that i think you're making.
make potions using various ingredients to transform loli characters into older versions, which would then allow you to breed or corrupt them. or, if they're untransformed, you can't breed or corrupt them, but they can be used as combat units with a mind control mask and can farm elemental power for you.
Genshin Impact's melusines seem sexless (but self-identify as female). Maybe treat them like slimes?
But overall, it is fine for early-game regions to be more rich in content, while in later regions it would be possible to steamroll them quickly enough that lack of content density would not be a problem.
Funny, I didn't touch Liyue until after Mondstadt was conquered. That may have been a mistake, given I am steamrolling through... But thanks anyway
It is my first post here, so I'm sorry if I write things badly.
First, I want to say thank you for this game !
It is sad that giving compliment is short, while pointing out details takes a lot more time, but I should say it : I really enjoy it !
Combat, conquest, management and… other thing are really working well together, the unite making system has depth and what you get fells earned.
I am looking forward to the next update !
Then, as a reference, what I have done so far : I played Ver1.0.2, on normal difficulty. 154 turns, conquered all of Mondstadt except the top of Dragonspine, and all of Liyue except the Chasme, the 4th city phase. Did not beat Alice yet. Fought mostly with elemental hilichuls.
What I have noticed so far:
- When selecting a skill before moving, it will automatically offer me to move in position to use it. It is convenient but, for some ranged units, it wants to make me move even if I don't want (and need) to. A good example of this is the Samachurl Anemo's Whirlwind.
- There is a bug were corrupted heroine that were deployed as fighting units just... appear back in the mating room. They are still fighting outside, but there is an independent copy in the mating room, that can be deployed.
- A way to rearrange the unit order stationed at a base would be nice : the only way I found to get the units in the right starting position in the battlefield is to have them go to a nearby base and come back in a specific order.
- Since I did Monstadt before Liyue (except for city phase 4), I mostly rolled over Liyue : the game don't seem to have any way to oppose a good pack of 8 units except for the superboss or city phase 4. Maybe (in the far futur) some counter to that would be nice.
- The same problem comes for vision holder (especially threat related ones) : they have a tendency to rush all alone against a pack of 8 and get caught like that. For Monstadt, it is nice (I have nightmares of the first time I fought Noelle and… game over), but starting the second region and for latter ones, I feel that having allied units or special events would make the fight a little more balanced.
- Autoresolve is a bit of a slaughter. Not that it should be as good that doing the battle by hand, but I think if the difference of strength is big enough (2x or 3x the enemy's power), it would be good to not lose 1 or 2 of my units in the auto-battle (when by hand, it can be won without loosing a single HP).
- Last is a preference based on no objective reason: I feel it would be nice if the music when a heroine is brought back to the main camp after capture stayed the same as for the capture scene until she gets inside (since it is a direct continuation of that scene). Tiny detail, sorry. On an even weaker level, I would feel the same for the heroine mating room. But it's a very subjective preference.
Sorry for the long message. As I said, I really enjoy the game. As it already is, it is a very good game. With the future content… I can only imagine an look forward to it.
(And of course, feel free to ignore everything I wrote except the compliments.)
First, I want to say thank you for this game !
It is sad that giving compliment is short, while pointing out details takes a lot more time, but I should say it : I really enjoy it !
Combat, conquest, management and… other thing are really working well together, the unite making system has depth and what you get fells earned.
I am looking forward to the next update !
Then, as a reference, what I have done so far : I played Ver1.0.2, on normal difficulty. 154 turns, conquered all of Mondstadt except the top of Dragonspine, and all of Liyue except the Chasme, the 4th city phase. Did not beat Alice yet. Fought mostly with elemental hilichuls.
What I have noticed so far:
- When selecting a skill before moving, it will automatically offer me to move in position to use it. It is convenient but, for some ranged units, it wants to make me move even if I don't want (and need) to. A good example of this is the Samachurl Anemo's Whirlwind.
- There is a bug were corrupted heroine that were deployed as fighting units just... appear back in the mating room. They are still fighting outside, but there is an independent copy in the mating room, that can be deployed.
- A way to rearrange the unit order stationed at a base would be nice : the only way I found to get the units in the right starting position in the battlefield is to have them go to a nearby base and come back in a specific order.
- Since I did Monstadt before Liyue (except for city phase 4), I mostly rolled over Liyue : the game don't seem to have any way to oppose a good pack of 8 units except for the superboss or city phase 4. Maybe (in the far futur) some counter to that would be nice.
- The same problem comes for vision holder (especially threat related ones) : they have a tendency to rush all alone against a pack of 8 and get caught like that. For Monstadt, it is nice (I have nightmares of the first time I fought Noelle and… game over), but starting the second region and for latter ones, I feel that having allied units or special events would make the fight a little more balanced.
- Autoresolve is a bit of a slaughter. Not that it should be as good that doing the battle by hand, but I think if the difference of strength is big enough (2x or 3x the enemy's power), it would be good to not lose 1 or 2 of my units in the auto-battle (when by hand, it can be won without loosing a single HP).
- Last is a preference based on no objective reason: I feel it would be nice if the music when a heroine is brought back to the main camp after capture stayed the same as for the capture scene until she gets inside (since it is a direct continuation of that scene). Tiny detail, sorry. On an even weaker level, I would feel the same for the heroine mating room. But it's a very subjective preference.
Sorry for the long message. As I said, I really enjoy the game. As it already is, it is a very good game. With the future content… I can only imagine an look forward to it.
(And of course, feel free to ignore everything I wrote except the compliments.)
- Jan 29, 2025
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I am wondering is there any female soldier in shogun's army besides Kujou Sara? I could create some captuable female samurais but still need a special NPC to train them. If there is not I will use Sango.
By the way there is a female millelith NPC in Genshin. Guess who.
By the way there is a female millelith NPC in Genshin. Guess who.
The only female NPC involved with the Shogun army I know is the priestess Miyuki in Tatara Tales... but it was more of a one time cooperation.
For actual soldiers, there doesn't seem to be anyone :
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No. but I will allow mods in the future so you can add your own characters to the game
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great to hear for the other honkai girls joining
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great to hear for the other honkai girls joining
just beat the game after over a week and well over a good amount of hours.
Honestly? Fun game,
Some observations:
Like im sure everyone else has said before, the biggest gripe I have is with selecting units and moving them. It's janky at the best of times and unclear when using an ability if using said ability defaults to moving you. For example Geo Samachurl spike defaults to trying to move him off his pillar.
Food wasn't really as big an issue for me as I've seen everyone else mention in this thread, im just chalking that up to different playstyles, i ended the game turn 178.
It's unclear how much colonizing helps in unit production, I know it's making me mitachurls, elemental hillichurls and slimes but i don't know how much, would be nice to see a number in the weekly wrap up.
small thing, in combat adding a unit name when you hover over a unit in the bottom description would be rather nice, (Was trying to capture and not kill Katarina and had no clue which one was electro cicin)
It looks like the game really encourages aggressive expansion, like a lot. It rewards you with more food, minerals and women to make new hillichurls with and upgrades. Very nice early game like first 50 turns.
The midgame is where I ran into my typical issue of floundering around and trying to see what I can do, what's my biggest bottleneck to expansion, how can i capture more girls etc. It's around turn 70 where i embraced the auto feature in the battle menu. Before then, and heck even on most turns after I would fight battles manually which probably took up most of the time in the game for me. Bright side, my first 70 turns had almost no losses to hillichurls. Downside was no masks to use on the heroines to make more consistent breeders.
Speaking of, I didn't use any of the heroines until my final assault on Liyue, was fun. Morax and Ganyu were killed super easily. shields were a bit chunky but after Morax went down on turn 2 my win was assured.
I agree with everyone Lawachurls are extremely strong, Barbara, Mona, Sucrose and Yelan were pumping out Samachurls and Lawachurls every other turn it felt like, they alone carried me from turn 130 onwards. (Be sure to bring enough slimes to fill their capacity)
The chasm is probably the most important part to get to if you are not planning on corrupting many of the girls like me, the ability to every turn challenge the chasm nets you minimum 12 elemental energy a turn thanks to the fatui there dropping their delusions. Do it over enough time and you will be very easily pumping out higher tier churls.
Lumine in my experience was just completely useless the entire time, I wish i could mask her so I didn't have the cutscene every time I wanted to breed her with something. I think she pumped out like one churl that was actually decent, the rest of the time it was mitachurls and hillichurls.
Unusual Hillichurls + Hydro or Anemo samachurls = a 1k powerhouse that will delete anything that gets within two tiles of it. Seriously, Rosaria, Keqing and an unusual hillichurl fully capped with anemo two turned Morax. Do not underestimate them, use them aggressively.
Alice from my experience after I get Lawachurls was extremely easy, high damage, no HP which was a consistent theme among enemies the entire game. Mondstadt was harder than Liyue because it's designed to just delete your turns. Ended up getting lucky with Lawachurls and did it in one wave after some save scumming.
Elemental reactions, specifically Melt and Vaporize are extremely strong. If you can kit out a kill team appropriately you can clear just about any obstacle with it. Alternatively, consider freeze as it seems to either eat the enemy turn and put them later in initiative or deletes an action. Very worthwhile.
Anemo Samachurl I really wanted to like, however no matter how hard I attempted to use them they just seemed completely lackluster compared to whatever the enemy brought to bear. A part of me wishes they had that vortex that skipped turns as their burst that the eye of storms had, but alas I think the current version is fine. I bet if you're a better player you could absolutely cause consistant reactions with it.
Ice and geo Samachurls are extremely safe options that buff archer units, even if those archers are the secondary unit in your squad. Example: Fire mitachurl and Electro archers on pillar does insane damage. (Drawback is overload but i had an overabundance of electro+fire stuff towards the end of the game) (Also, overload and anemo push can knock units off pillars, be aware for some encounters as they will decimate your battlelines)
Dendro and Geo hillichurls were almost completely phased out of my army by turn 60, they just don't have enough power or defensive ability to justify their existence.
My favorite heroine was by far Rosaria, she just looks so pretty pregnant. Kept her that way the entire game until my assault on Liyue, never corrupted her either. Ice Lawachurls were rare but a nice surprise from her and Shenhe.
Fischl I corrupted first thing and honestly.... I kinda ended up regretting it. I understand you need to have corrupt units in order to capture Lumine but her limit is only noctyl hillichurls and nothing more. Really wish that the girls weren't so limited in what they can breed.
Personally wish that the birth scenes also had just a little bit more, well anything honestly. Expressions, variety in poses but that's extremely niche I understand and probably really hard to do right. Fade to black is probably best.
Fun game, looking forward to future updates.
Honestly? Fun game,
Some observations:
Like im sure everyone else has said before, the biggest gripe I have is with selecting units and moving them. It's janky at the best of times and unclear when using an ability if using said ability defaults to moving you. For example Geo Samachurl spike defaults to trying to move him off his pillar.
Food wasn't really as big an issue for me as I've seen everyone else mention in this thread, im just chalking that up to different playstyles, i ended the game turn 178.
It's unclear how much colonizing helps in unit production, I know it's making me mitachurls, elemental hillichurls and slimes but i don't know how much, would be nice to see a number in the weekly wrap up.
small thing, in combat adding a unit name when you hover over a unit in the bottom description would be rather nice, (Was trying to capture and not kill Katarina and had no clue which one was electro cicin)
It looks like the game really encourages aggressive expansion, like a lot. It rewards you with more food, minerals and women to make new hillichurls with and upgrades. Very nice early game like first 50 turns.
The midgame is where I ran into my typical issue of floundering around and trying to see what I can do, what's my biggest bottleneck to expansion, how can i capture more girls etc. It's around turn 70 where i embraced the auto feature in the battle menu. Before then, and heck even on most turns after I would fight battles manually which probably took up most of the time in the game for me. Bright side, my first 70 turns had almost no losses to hillichurls. Downside was no masks to use on the heroines to make more consistent breeders.
Speaking of, I didn't use any of the heroines until my final assault on Liyue, was fun. Morax and Ganyu were killed super easily. shields were a bit chunky but after Morax went down on turn 2 my win was assured.
I agree with everyone Lawachurls are extremely strong, Barbara, Mona, Sucrose and Yelan were pumping out Samachurls and Lawachurls every other turn it felt like, they alone carried me from turn 130 onwards. (Be sure to bring enough slimes to fill their capacity)
The chasm is probably the most important part to get to if you are not planning on corrupting many of the girls like me, the ability to every turn challenge the chasm nets you minimum 12 elemental energy a turn thanks to the fatui there dropping their delusions. Do it over enough time and you will be very easily pumping out higher tier churls.
Lumine in my experience was just completely useless the entire time, I wish i could mask her so I didn't have the cutscene every time I wanted to breed her with something. I think she pumped out like one churl that was actually decent, the rest of the time it was mitachurls and hillichurls.
Unusual Hillichurls + Hydro or Anemo samachurls = a 1k powerhouse that will delete anything that gets within two tiles of it. Seriously, Rosaria, Keqing and an unusual hillichurl fully capped with anemo two turned Morax. Do not underestimate them, use them aggressively.
Alice from my experience after I get Lawachurls was extremely easy, high damage, no HP which was a consistent theme among enemies the entire game. Mondstadt was harder than Liyue because it's designed to just delete your turns. Ended up getting lucky with Lawachurls and did it in one wave after some save scumming.
Elemental reactions, specifically Melt and Vaporize are extremely strong. If you can kit out a kill team appropriately you can clear just about any obstacle with it. Alternatively, consider freeze as it seems to either eat the enemy turn and put them later in initiative or deletes an action. Very worthwhile.
Anemo Samachurl I really wanted to like, however no matter how hard I attempted to use them they just seemed completely lackluster compared to whatever the enemy brought to bear. A part of me wishes they had that vortex that skipped turns as their burst that the eye of storms had, but alas I think the current version is fine. I bet if you're a better player you could absolutely cause consistant reactions with it.
Ice and geo Samachurls are extremely safe options that buff archer units, even if those archers are the secondary unit in your squad. Example: Fire mitachurl and Electro archers on pillar does insane damage. (Drawback is overload but i had an overabundance of electro+fire stuff towards the end of the game) (Also, overload and anemo push can knock units off pillars, be aware for some encounters as they will decimate your battlelines)
Dendro and Geo hillichurls were almost completely phased out of my army by turn 60, they just don't have enough power or defensive ability to justify their existence.
My favorite heroine was by far Rosaria, she just looks so pretty pregnant. Kept her that way the entire game until my assault on Liyue, never corrupted her either. Ice Lawachurls were rare but a nice surprise from her and Shenhe.
Fischl I corrupted first thing and honestly.... I kinda ended up regretting it. I understand you need to have corrupt units in order to capture Lumine but her limit is only noctyl hillichurls and nothing more. Really wish that the girls weren't so limited in what they can breed.
Personally wish that the birth scenes also had just a little bit more, well anything honestly. Expressions, variety in poses but that's extremely niche I understand and probably really hard to do right. Fade to black is probably best.
Fun game, looking forward to future updates.
What do you mean by more consistent breeders?
Also, I'm running into the same situation as some people, where the units become too strong to capture. I always accidentally kill all Milileth and while I could use weaker units, they kind of get deleted by better units roaming around. It's hard to find a middle ground between catching and not dying. I suppose Teleportation is the only way to make it work properly, unless you want to walk from one of the bases.