So any clues on how to beat Alice? I can't even get into melee range of her with a full squad of the mid tier hilichurls with shields and barriers. I assume you need either corrupted lumine or the final tier hilichurl but for the life of me can't get the torture option for Lumine and having to deal with Alice in her appache helicopter once a month is getting old fast.
Ergonomicsheep
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Hydro or Anemo lawachurls are her hard counter.
Hydro lawachurls in particular would be your best option, by virtue of callirhoa being able to convert hydro slimes into large hydro slimes to power them up, but anemo will be easier due to there being more anemo characters available to you.
(Courtesy to dekeche for pointing out the rogues as viable options, saved my arse when I did my playthrough on hard mode, as Alice went down like a sack of shit.)
https://f95zone.to/threads/hilichurls-ambition-v1-0-1-theofrad.250579/post-16667143
I employed dbomb's strategy for both Alice and the Ping fight. Very cost effective way to defeat them.
The basic composition is to have at least one or two units of Geo/Cryo Samchurls. Followed by any form of individual ranged unit (Pyro, Electro, Cryo, or Nycto Hillichurls are cheap and efficient). If you really want to do extra damage, surround each main leader with ranged units, especially Nycto hillichurls.
The basic strategy relies on the Geo/Cryo Samchurls. One of their abilities is to raise the height of units in a hexagonal pattern (7 units) with a pillar. The totem acts as an additional layer of defense, but more importantly, increases the range of any ranged unit. That means that instead of the standard two unit range, the range of a raised ranged unit covers half of the map. You can continue to raise units even if Alice breaks your pillars, usually before she hits again.
Any tips on consistently getting a Hydro Samchurl? Have Yelan and Mona still, as well as Lumine. Is there a best pairing with these three to consistently get it? Is there a Special NPC that helps getting one?
Do the icons for them appear when you select a breeding pair, if not, then they either don't exist or you have not been breeding the prerequisite.
I am pretty sure this game does not have Hydro or Anemo lawachurls. These two elements only have samachurls (shamans) and rogues. Rogues are actually about mitachurl-sized.
Yes, there is a pirate in the seas of Liyue that can help train ordinary hilichurls into hydro samachurls.
Also, make sure you give your breeders' elemental energy time to recover.
Yep, figured that. The only issue was that I was in a state of play where it was difficult to get the requisite amount of Pirates to start rolling for them with Furong. Basically, entire board was covered and conquered except for Liyue Harbor. So no natural pirate spawns, or so I thought.
Then, I tried departing with all my units from Guyun Stone Forest. There, Pirates naturally spawned after a few turns (maybe Treasure Hoarders too). Thank goodness.
Now to farm Hydro Rogue...
Ergonomicsheep
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In Genshin, you would be correct, but in this game they list the Rogues as Lawachurls if you mouse over their names. Hence why I called them that.
Functionally speaking, they act like lawachurls both in rarity and stat wise, since they outshine both mita and samachurls by a metric ton. Their main quirk is that they can only have slimes as additional units, which they use to teleport across the field.
This is what makes them very dangerous for alice, since they can just warp over to her side of the field and start putting arrows into her (or scythe slashes if given the chance) and while she's strong, her healthbar goes down fast. The hard part to the alice fight on hard and above isn't actually taking her down...it's surviving the carpet bombing she does. The Ice pillar strat sadly doesn't work on hard mode, since she gets so many extra turns with all the explosions.
Just for anyone that's curious and needs help with either of the major cities, spamming units endlessly IS a viable option. If you kill a unit in town, that unit will remain dead, in my experience, so the next wave has less to worry about. This is how I took the coastal city (I don't play Genshin, sorry), by overrunning all 3 (not counting sea access) entry points.
Alternatively, I clubbed Jean to death by sending 3 of my girls (Rosaria, Noel, and Fischl) loaded up with hilichurls, supported by a couple nycto-aligned mitachurls, each with a full squad of nycto churls for extra damage. I lost everyone but Noel in that fight (good god Noel is the GOAT in combat, she soaks in more abuse than a hillbilly's fourth wife).
Alternatively, I clubbed Jean to death by sending 3 of my girls (Rosaria, Noel, and Fischl) loaded up with hilichurls, supported by a couple nycto-aligned mitachurls, each with a full squad of nycto churls for extra damage. I lost everyone but Noel in that fight (good god Noel is the GOAT in combat, she soaks in more abuse than a hillbilly's fourth wife).
Ai art aside, i really like goblin burrow and giving this a little more to combat and map control is very nice. i hope cleaning up the UI is priority and enabling the rest of the functions as well i have not seen the broken bosses that everyone else mentions and i hope that gets properly tuned since even if you save before hand the attack will still come and wipe the run from what i see and experienced at the moment.
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so if you sacrifice mitachurl it will get dirty mask and if sacrifice samachurl will get cursed mask
what's difference between dirty mask and cursed mask? i know cursed one for powerful heroine, but who is powerful heroine in this game?
is there a way to recover the heroine element power? i was too late to realized the mask will not lower element power while breeding
It recovers over time if you let her rest. But there seems to be a limit, and that limit decreases if she is submissive.
This is what I heard from people who played goblin burrow.
Ergonomicsheep
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Goblin burrow was worse, at least the version I played.
No hex-based strategy, even less information than we get here (you at least can see who you are engaging beforehand, a lot of the times in burrow it was just plain old mystery) and a good chunk of the game isn't actually translated, since at least three characters you could capture had everything in another language.
I might give it another crack one day, but as someone who regularly enjoys hex-based games, it was easy to fall in love with this one instead. The genshin coat of paint is just a bonus, really, because the game underneath the references and hentai is a very solid one.
i think you have piont the flow....its not the same...and from the point of view,....besides the difficulties....i think it was a very more fun game,...expel for people how like strategie.....
.....but i was try to be confident......it fuck me up to dont know where the next update was coming,....wait for it all the day,...see some "noobs" (i was some art of the noobs) how cant read the breakthrough to winning game.....
Ergonomicsheep
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Usually my first judgement for a game is "How playable is this without a guide".
Some are simple, some tell you what you need to know, and some are incredibly obtuse in how they actually give you any of the relevant information, leading you to go around in circles as you try to figure out what it is you should be doing.
This isn't to say I never use guides - I've had to swallow my pride and look up what the hell I needed to do for more than a few games because either I was too stupid to figure it out or the information was just plain cryptic - but it really depends on a case by case basis.
This game, at its core, gives you the relevant information you will need to clear fights. Yeah, you will get your ass kicked by the odd fight against a capturable girl every so often, and morax is morax, but it isn't hard to look at the list of available hilichurls from breeding and go "Pick this one". The only time I've had to look anything up was in regards to figuring out what the hell to do about hard mode alice, and that was more of a "Is there an answer to being carpet bombed" than "I don't know how this works".
Everything else comes down to strategy, and looking at what your units do in combat. And even then, that really only applies to the harder difficulties. On easy, once you start getting access to Mitachurls, you are already halfway towards winning. Once we get the new mini-update with all the extra information, I plan to poke around hellichurl difficulty to see if its worth doing after having beaten hard mode.
Talishan
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I actually prefer AI art in a game like this. Well established characters mean that they will be pretty accurate. I like the characters as they are, and the vast majority of artists alter them dramatically, making them unappealing. I want to see Keqing getting railed, not Keqing after a facelift, boob job, and butt lift.
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