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Blake45666

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i get that as ive said before i play hundreds of these vns, but when i see it made a 3rd place in anything, i assume its got the content length to back it up, lol its like ending a Simpsons episode at the couch gag though, and why i felt let down at a 0.7 i can understand it, i mainly got annoyed at someone wanting to call bs against valid reasons, honestly if i wasn't continually quoted i wouldn't be replying or posting anymore although i find the story interesting its going to be a couple years for a decent amount of content probably
you keep bringing up "0.7" whilst people keep trying to tell you that version numbers on this website don't mean anything, they are not standardized

the length of the story right now runs about a good 4 hours so it's not that short and there are updates every 6-8 weeks starting from the last one so it won't be years

so yeah people will keep quoting you if you keep talking about things that are just wrong
 

ihl86

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i get that as ive said before i play hundreds of these vns, but when i see it made a 3rd place in anything, i assume its got the content length to back it up, lol its like ending a Simpsons episode at the couch gag though, and why i felt let down at a 0.7 i can understand it, i mainly got annoyed at someone wanting to call bs against valid reasons, honestly if i wasn't continually quoted i wouldn't be replying or posting anymore although i find the story interesting its going to be a couple years for a decent amount of content probably
I didn't check the whole discussion but I want to let you know how versioning works, so you don't make assumptions in the future: . Here is a very good versioning system. If Hillside is following that, it just means it has had 7 minor version releases. A third number (although some VNs use it) would only be used for patches to a release, and not for adding content. How long each patch is depends on the VN. Even if two VNs have the same number of renders in an update, one could be a 1 hour update on gameplay while the other one could be 6 hours. It depends how many renders per scene are used and, if there are multiple paths and so on.
I guess my point is: don't assume content length based on versioning, better just ask in the forum.
I was also sad that there is little content in this story, it's why I will give it a break for some updates and check it out later, as I don't enjoy playing only 20 minutes at a time.
 

Maviarab

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i get that as ive said before i play hundreds of these vns, but when i see it made a 3rd place in anything, i assume its got the content length to back it up, lol its like ending a Simpsons episode at the couch gag though, and why i felt let down at a 0.7 i can understand it, i mainly got annoyed at someone wanting to call bs against valid reasons, honestly if i wasn't continually quoted i wouldn't be replying or posting anymore although i find the story interesting its going to be a couple years for a decent amount of content probably
Say I'm stupid...yet vehemently defend your assumptions and expectations. The problem isn't the VN...it's you.

Have a good day Mr played 100's I'm an Expert.
 
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Bolero

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He is very punctual if he can say the exact day of the next release 1 and a half month before it will be released.
 

Hellkinglucifer

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i get that as ive said before i play hundreds of these vns, but when i see it made a 3rd place in anything, i assume its got the content length to back it up, lol its like ending a Simpsons episode at the couch gag though, and why i felt let down at a 0.7 i can understand it, i mainly got annoyed at someone wanting to call bs against valid reasons
lol version number means nothing on f95, i've made the wrong assumption that a game was pretty much new and small due to its low version only to find out it was nearly 4gb worth of play time. Did the opposite too as have pretty much everyone here. The problem here is you MADE THE WRONG ASSUMPTION here then instead of thinking nah my bad and moving on you went on a rant and got the response you deserved.
 
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kajidiablo

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ugh this is my last reply because you all keep quoting me and i know better then to fuel the fire past this, yes i get version numbers is bullshit most of the time as i said before it was mostly frustration with expecting more then there was i played 4 new games well into development at over the 50% mark then played this while waiting for a download thinking it was farther along not reading much due to not wanting spoilers and was huffy with how short it was in the end no i dont think the game is bad yes its got a nice start going *sigh* not my first rodeo on here but my god this shit never changes and even though i had been drinking this shit is nothing new and i knew what to expect but geeze

seriously you all act like the prep chicks ganging up on the tubby nerd girl, most of us have been there done that, yes what i said was an opinion, hell i wasn't even kink shaming yet you all act like i personally attacked every one of you

ill add your right, i could of ignored this and moved on, but the same could be said to your response with how the site goes its like the people claiming virus with an AV we get it people vent at least mines more opinion instead of computer illiteracy or kink shaming
 
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Ayhsel

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Trying to move on from the version number drama, I saw an interesting post from DB on his Pateron page.

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The way that scene played in my head is that when MC goes to kiss her for her birthday she unconsciously reacts and ends up hitting him hard in the face
 

6pak2go

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The way that scene played in my head is that when MC goes to kiss her for her birthday she unconsciously reacts and ends up hitting him hard in the face
:LOL: Yes, I'm sure muscle memory might play a part in her reaction. Let's hope not.
 

RoryTate

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I just played through the entire game for the first time several days ago, and I thought I'd quickly write up my thoughts and share some things I noticed about it as a complete newcomer to this great VN.

First off, the thing that really jumped out at me is how many of the characters have actual personalities and real mannerisms that bring them to life. Like when Charlotte had a lingerie shoot, so she was wearing loose clothing that wouldn't mark her skin. Or Emma learning how to model shoes, and her Mom demonstrating the proper poses for that. The love and warmth Charlotte shows her daughter at the supper table, and how she almost glows when she smiles after tickling Emma for disparaging the food. In fact, all of the light-hearted tickling scenes between Charlotte and Emma are so well done that I think I would enjoy a VN of just them together. Now I'm imagining a mod for Hillside: No Sexual Content – Tickling Edition. :LOL:

Those small interactions add a lot of verisimilitude to the world and really go a long way in making the reader care about these people and their lives.

I have also found myself somewhat averse to considering Emma as a love interest, and just wanting to protect her and keep her safe. I think this is partly because she acts so childish and appears younger than her stated age, so it's natural to just want to be professional and behave as a security guard towards her. In that way, the MC becomes very relateable to the reader, since his internal thoughts and dialog also constantly drive that motivation home by repeating "Emma's safety is the priority" again and again. As the story progresses, however, I think her growing understanding of her own sexuality will make her appear more womanly, and that along with the resolution of the threats against her, will all let this abate naturally and there won't be so much of a "creep factor" when interacting with her. Hopefully that can happen without it becoming forced and the MC – and reader – feeling conflicted and in conflict (with Charlotte and others) over forming a relationship with Emma.

The other part of this aversion to pursuing Emma though is a bit more insidious and pervasive, as it is tied up in all of Charlotte's past trauma and distrust, plus the sleazy fashion and entertainment world that is Hillside, Kaylah's assault, Suzi's blackmail, Emma's stalker-filled school life, and more. Without dwelling too long on the details, I'll summarize it with the phrase "White Knight Syndrome", except that Hillside has begun as a more pathological variant of this mental condition called "One Good Man Syndrome" (which is a less well known term compared to "White Knight Syndrome"). The world perceived by the MC reflects back the belief that he is the only good man to ever exist in the world – past, present, and future – and that all other men are only threats and evil. I believe the key to this, strangely enough, is Steve. If he were written as just a normal friend, perhaps of the "You've got a female client? Is she hot?" and then "Nice. *nods approvingly when he finds out she's a supermodel*" variety, instead of a hypersexual, over-the-top pervert who acts suspiciously, a lot of this problem could be avoided. Basically, I feel what this story needs as it progresses are other decent men to appear who are important characters. Otherwise, I worry that any relationship with Emma or Charlotte could end up feeling to the reader like the MC is just deluding himself into thinking he's any different from every other evil man out in the world, and further establish that unfortunate "creep factor" in those desires.

Another interesting thing to me is how the VN is written only using dialogue (spoken and internal), without any description of activities, and yet what is happening is mostly clear to the reader from believable and well-rendered visuals and context. There are a few times when the time skips are slightly jarring, but all in all it's a good lesson in how "show don't tell" is a powerful tool in creating a seemingly real fictional world.

The choices and gameplay are also quite natural, and don't feel too forced. You can imagine the MC choosing either option, and there isn't anything too OOC that breaks immersion. Some of the choices are not easy to figure out either.

Hillside is definitely one of the more well-written and polished stories out there, and it's refreshing to not have spelling mistakes every second sentence like in some lazier VNs.

That's about it for initial thoughts. I'm looking forward to more and seeing what happens next in the story!
 
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