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znar25

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Phone conversation:

MC: "Hi, Suzie, I'm OK. I'm just glad Emma is alright."
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...."Tomorrow night?..... At the Winsor Hotel? A 'thank you' dinner?"
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"....Sure, you can bring your room mate too...."
 

Ottoeight

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1st i didn't say he got arrested for zak's murder ... i said he got arrested for being the stalker
closing the blinds ... he doesn't want anyone esle to know david is there .. and most likely locked him up in storage for blaming him for stalking

3rd point you made is true


it was the detective that killed zak people :ROFLMAO:
Once again: if Carter arrested David before Zak's murder, how in the fucking damn world could he think of framing David for Zak's murder?

Locked him up in a storage?!?!?! :rolleyes: you can't be serious, man.
 

ImperialD

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Once again: if Carter arrested David before Zak's murder, how in the fucking damn world could he think of framing David for Zak's murder?

Locked him up in a storage?!?!?! :rolleyes: you can't be serious, man.
dude your misreading what i posted ... i said david gets arrested for stalking .,.. to throw off people so he can get done what happens at the end
 

SteelyDan14

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Not defending or accusing here but the one thing I see often mentioned is MC is x-military.
I'm not saying all x-military's go to responce is to kill but it is what they are trained to do.
I maybe wrong but I beleive incapacitate and kill is one of the technic's they are trained in.
And normally incapacitate only is just used is if they need prisoner to interigate.
so it didn't really suprise me when the MC killed.
If in dowt kill.

Just sayin
I would agree, but it is also very impulsive and kinda stupid. By doing that, he is risking being arrested and taken away from the people he wants to protect. How is he going to protect Charlottle and Emma when he is locked up somewhere.

Who knows... maybe the FBI is watching and will get him out of it. Maybe they leave the scene and hope they get away with it (but then Charlotte becomes and accomplice). Maybe the police show up and arrest everyone. I have to believe there are going to be consequences for this.
 

Olsens.M

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I must admit, I am a little confused by some of the plot points in the last chapter...

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Wow, good point. I never noticed that. It just goes to say how Emma is shipping Charlotte & MC. However, I had a question.
For those pursuing the Emma route, was the name also saved as "Dad"?

I'm not against the Emma route (although she comes off as a daughter figure to me) but doesn't that indirectly warrant an incest tag? Its general conception that MC is a father figure and the canon route seems to be Charlotte (or maybe Kaylah, who knows).



Sounds pretty retarded to me too.
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Tbh
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You both pointed out a lot of nice things here and it is the same way I see it. I love this VN, but that ending kind of diverged a bit from the whole plot so far, I want to see what the Dev has planned for future updates.
 
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Olsens.M

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Not defending or accusing here but the one thing I see often mentioned is MC is x-military.
I'm not saying all x-military's go to responce is to kill but it is what they are trained to do.
I maybe wrong but I beleive incapacitate and kill is one of the technic's they are trained in.
And normally incapacitate only is just used is if they need prisoner to interigate.
so it didn't really suprise me when the MC killed.
If in dowt kill.

Just sayin
are you telling me that any x-military working as a body guard in a situation of brawling someone or in a fight gun/knife, he is gonna incapacitate and kill the person? That is a lot stupid sorry. If that was the case, how many people would be killed by ex-militaries in a daily basis. As much as they are trained to kill during war, they are also trained restraint when not in one. Unless they are suffering from an extreme trauma. If that was the case, he'd not be working as a bodyguard for those long 20years.
 

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This AVN was... interesting. The main plot was very interesting, but Emma's character threw me off completely. Mentally, she's a little girl. I've seen sheltered girls. I know sheltered girls. I've befriended many of them, but Emma is... well wow lol. Sheltered doesn't even begin to describe her. I'm not one to shame others for what they're interested in, but I sincerely hope that you guys aren't attracted to her after reading any of her dialogue. That aside, there are many things wrong with the female characters in this AVN. Heck, there are a decent amount of things wrong with this story in general, but I'm not here to spread negativity. I think many people were drawn in due to the main plot of this AVN. Outside of that, it falls short in many other areas.

I'm still trying to get over the fact that Emma's still "in love" with this guy after seeing him sleeping with her "friend". Unfortunately, that part of the story is actually believable. What's not believable, is Emma's naivety. Unless Charlotte kept her in a bubble all her life, away from the internet, away from other people, away from life, then Emma being that naive would be very unbelievable. Any 18-year-old girl at that stage mentally should seek help. The pacing is also pretty awkward at times. Anyway, I'll see myself out. I can already feel the flak this comment is going to get lol

Edit: Ok after playing through a bit of the latest update, the bodyguard(MC) was also written pretty badly. And after looking through the dialogue, I'm starting to wonder if this developer has ever even met a woman...

Edit #2: The antagonists are carrying this story lol... because wow! She literally just told him that basically, the police were working for the people against them, and he trusts the words of one right after their conversation? The MC is either really dumb or I'm just realizing how bad the writing is. Probably the latter now that I think about it...
 
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This AVN was... interesting. The main plot was very interesting, but Emma's character threw me off completely. Mentally, she's a little girl. I've seen sheltered girls. I know sheltered girls. I've befriended many of them, but Emma is... well wow lol. Sheltered doesn't even begin to describe her. I'm not one to shame others for what they're interested in, but I sincerely hope that you guys aren't attracted to her after reading any of her dialogue. That aside, there are many things wrong with most of the female characters in this AVN. Heck, there are a decent amount of things wrong with this story. But I'm not here to spread negativity. I think many people were drawn in due to the main plot of this AVN. Outside of that, it falls short in many other areas.

I'm still trying to get over the fact that Emma's still "in love" with this guy after seeing him sleeping with her "friend". Unfortunately, that part of the story is actually believable. What's not believable, is Emma's naivety. Unless Charlotte kept her in a bubble all her life, away from the internet, away from other people, away from life, then Emma being that naive would be very unbelievable. Any 18-year-old girl at that stage mentally should seek help. The pacing is also pretty awkward at times. Anyway, I'll see myself out. I can already feel the flak this comment is going to get lol
Actually i agree with a lot you say about it. I have even spoken to someone else extensively about some of this.
 

mommysboiii

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I dont understand why as a writter you want to make a dark setting(which I like it is a nice variety to all the other VN that all play very simmular) but than decide to make it play out like all the other games(I mean it would be like games of thrones/song of ice and fire with all bad scenes and evil cheracters cut out). I mean its always the same bad guy has a plan GOD mc saves the day and its always the same it happens over and over again and the bad guys act often very stupid carter even had so much time it played out very weird but we will see what the future brings.
 
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NewTricks

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This AVN was... interesting. The main plot was very interesting, but Emma's character threw me off completely. Mentally, she's a little girl. I've seen sheltered girls. I know sheltered girls. I've befriended many of them, but Emma is... well wow lol. Sheltered doesn't even begin to describe her. I'm not one to shame others for what they're interested in, but I sincerely hope that you guys aren't attracted to her after reading any of her dialogue. That aside, there are many things wrong with the female characters in this AVN. Heck, there are a decent amount of things wrong with this story in general, but I'm not here to spread negativity. I think many people were drawn in due to the main plot of this AVN. Outside of that, it falls short in many other areas.

I'm still trying to get over the fact that Emma's still "in love" with this guy after seeing him sleeping with her "friend". Unfortunately, that part of the story is actually believable. What's not believable, is Emma's naivety. Unless Charlotte kept her in a bubble all her life, away from the internet, away from other people, away from life, then Emma being that naive would be very unbelievable. Any 18-year-old girl at that stage mentally should seek help. The pacing is also pretty awkward at times. Anyway, I'll see myself out. I can already feel the flak this comment is going to get lol

Edit: Ok after playing through a bit of the latest update, the bodyguard(MC) was also written pretty badly. And after looking through the dialogue, I'm starting to wonder if this developer has ever even met a woman...
I've had the misfortune of meeting a girl exactly like Emma in my teen years. Her parents were in a cult that was always knocking on our door to hand over literature and invite us to their meeting hall. So it isn't that she isn't believable it is just that I'm wondering when we get to meet the cult that Charlotte, or perhaps her ex, belongs to.
 
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mommysboiii

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Btw, the best thing about that update is...
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and this is the reason why we will never get good VN that play like game of thrones/song of ice and fire because you cant do shit(story/realistic wise) if its always ntr or ntr or ntr that is why we always get storys with college with full females or college games that feel so unrealistic pls stop this or we will never get good storys.
 
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Canto Forte

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G0T is 8 seasons long .. this game ends in literally couple dozen minuts and you are the one to compare them and complain .. the entitlement of some a y all is infuriating for a second, then is childish at best.
and this is the reason why we will never get good VN that play like game of thrones/song of ice and fire because you cant do shit(story/realistic wise) if its always ntr or ntr or ntr that is why we always get storys with college with full females or college games that feel so unrealistic pls stop this or we will never get good storys.
Very immediate threat as both men refused to use guns, meaning they only pretended to have any.
The fight is about a believable real threat and a weappon wielding assassin who declares to kill
everyone in there. Then it becomes unarmed struggle with someone still struggling, never
giving up, at this point the threat is still real, the struggle is ongoing, nobody given up, no tap outs.

In any ring situation, MMA would end in fainted/brain injury/knock out/seisure.
In a boxing match it would end in a knockout or broken jaw/broken ribbs.
Those are all legit .. this is what happends when immovable object, MC, the victim fighting back
meets the unstoppable force, the murderer who keeps coming. There is no half way.
Keep dreaming of your superman batman fantasy where you can actually subdue armed assailants.

The risks in a street brawl with no safety net of a refferee and medical staff is where you draw short
your delusions of fairness in a very much unfair situation. Unfair to the victim.
Stop gratifying the murderer already.

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