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You could be right to mate. Anything is possible. I also at one stage believed it could be Lucy doing it as a way to punish Charlotte.
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I mainly went with Carter being the stalker beause of things he would say and he would ask Charlotte. And he came off as someone who wanted the MC to get close to Emma, and why he wanted the MC to suffer watching Emma die.
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I was suspicious of Carter since the meeting at the bar. I thought early on that Carter was a bigger piece than he let us believe. I only have one question remaining that may involve him: Is Johno coming back or is he buried in the hills somewhere thanks to Carter?
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I hate this theory so much, Lucy once put herself in front of a man who nearly killed her sister For Charlotte, she was not afraid, she cares so much about Emma and Charlotte, she was so angry at MC when he left Charlotte alone after the event.Lucy may be upset that she always comes after Charlotte, but I think it's almost impossible for her to ever hurt her sister.
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Yeah, I am not buying this one. Lucy is flawed and insecure, yes. But malicious, god no. I believe her when she says that Emma means as much to her as she does to Charlotte. This theory expects the worst, but hopes it is wrong.
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I totally understand I more threw it around as a joke theory as we were trying to figure out who it might be and I just said it more for shits and giggles but as I said to my mate, I can't see it being her as she loves Emma to death and she wouldn't do that to her.
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Yeah sorry I knew there was a reason why I thought he blamed Charlotte, I just forgot it. But thanks for reminding me.
I was responding to your comment about the powers that be not allowing the MC to get away with killing a cop, not Carter as the/a stalker. The debate about the probable legal outcome of killing Carter was long and consumed many pages and doesn't need to be reignited. If you're interested in that discussion it starts around here, where assertions of premeditated murder are made followed by various discussions which continue for about two weeks.
Carter recommended the MC to Charlotte (and Lucy?) as Emma's bodyguard. So he put them together for whatever reason. He also fed selective information or disinformation to both of them. How that fits with his apparent fixation that they were responsible for the other Emma's death is speculative. The discussion of Carter as the stalker begins around here.
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The question of Carter being the stalker is kinda moot since we now know there is no stalker. There never was. My line of thinking is that Carter worked collectively with both Zac (who we saw being responsible for sending the shitty texts as well as lurking outside Emma's home) and Jono (who we know took the pictures) to create the fiction of there being the stalker with the sole purpose of drawing the two people he held responsible for Emma's death together. It is unlikely yet possible that Zac's plot and Carter's plot were mutually exclusive happy coincidences, but if that was the case I don't understand why Carter arrested David for outing Zac. If Zac and Carter were conspiring together, it would explain why Carter chose to stab him to death. Two people can always keep a secret if one of them is dead, and Zac clearly wasn't holding up his end of the deal in Carter's estimation. We also know that Jono wasn't supposed to blackmail Suzy, but that was something he did on his own time to get his dick wet. This is probably why Carter killed him too. By the point he flipped out, Carter probably felt like Dark Helmet; zooming through his cunning plan at ludicrous speed and surrounded by assholes.
He didn't. Carter arrested David because he needed to arrest someone as "the stalker" so that MC/Charlotte didn't cancel the date. Emma's date with Zac was probably the only way (or at least the easiest way) Carter could get a shot at grabbing Emma without the MC around.
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Well, that would be a convenient way to stitch up the plan, but the hole in it would naturally be how Carter was informed of the date in the first place. I still think that collusion with Zac, or a convenient go-between, is more likely than a happy coincidence. I also think that silencing David was at least as important to him as ensuring the date went forward. Playing the scene again, I also worry that we only have Carter's word that he arrested David instead of dumping his corpse in a ditch somewhere. We never did see him either arrested or imprisoned. He just disappeared.
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This has become my favorite thread on this site.The 0.11 update was that bonkers.
Carter will always have a spot in my heart for his contribution to society
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damn what a wonderful update this was omg I really like games with beautiful sex scenes but this is the "only game that I don't mind at all I even forget about this fact that I'm playing a game +18 after I've been playing for a long time i wake up for life" i have to say this is one of the best romance games i've ever played reminds me a lot of lexi who remembers? It's very similar in many ways it's good to know that Emma is now much more attached to the MC the two are so cute together I don't see any malice or desire on her part because she's not my main focus but I don't know I'm changing that now lol my mind is a little confused it seems like i fell in love with her myself.
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next, mc and charl will have passionate sex since he saved emma and later with sucy due saving her niece and maybe with suzie too due saving her sister.
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TLDR : Carter knew about the date from David and the MC. Carter was hired by Harry to kill the MC and Charlotte but he also had his own agenda.
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I've only read a few posts here so I don't know if it was mentioned, but during the golf event we see Harry talking on the phone, telling someone that he wants Charlotte and the MC "gone" quickly and that the FBI is snooping around. I believe that someone is Carter. Jason then mentions that the guy is a psychopath. Seeing how Carter killed Zak in public and then followed and tried to kill Emma, it makes no doubt in my mind that he is the mentioned psychopath. Plus, when Carter meets with the MC in front of the hotdog stand, we can see Agent Fox sitting on a bench, spying on them. Finally, Carter freaked out when he heard that the date wouldn't happen, probably thinking it would be his best chance to get Emma without the MC. If there is collusion, I think it's between Harry and Carter.
Zak didn't know who Carter was when they met, he clearly asked, "who the fuck are you? Are you a photographer?" Carter didn't know who Zak was before David met him in his office (he could have been acting, but I don't think he was). Zak was also an idiot who only wanted to get his dick wet for fun and prestige sake. I hardly see him being part of a conspiracy to harm Emma or Charlotte. I don't think he was colluding with Carter in any way. I think the date was just the perfect time for Carter to act and that's why he framed David to make it happen.
Carter knew about the date through David. The exact line is "He's not interested in Emma. He's going to date Emma so he can get into their house." Carter didn't know when it would happen, but he learned it from the MC during the same hotdog stand scene I mentioned before: "Emma was supposed to be going on a date this Friday, but we've had to tell her she can't go."
It's pretty clear though that Johno was taking pictures for him. Carter did a Freudian slip when he said "That fucking idiot!" before catching himself when the MC told him about Johno. But since Harry didn't know who the MC was (we know that from an exchange with Harry and Jason in an underground garage), we can guess that the stalker thing and bringing the MC back to Hillside was, as some of you mentioned, orchestrated by Carter and he almost confirmed it while he was holding a knife at Emma's throat. He had his own vengeance in mind (we don't know why exactly yet but it has to do with the first Emma).
What isn't clear to me, and I don't know if it's a mistake on the writer's part or if it's just because Carter was mentally unstable, is why he killed Zak and planned to kill Emma. When he killed Zak, we saw his inner thought : "Murdered by a jealous love rival, along with his innocent girlfriend." So his original plan was to kill both and frame it on another teenage girl. He had absolutely no reason to do that though as far as we know. And I can understand why you'd want to stick to the "Zak colluding with Carter" hypothesis which would explain why he'd kill Zak. But all the rest points against it IMO.
But Carter didn't kill Emma right away when he found her, however. He waited for the MC and Charlotte to show up. I think he saw that as a perfect opportunity to get both his revenge and the job he got from Harry (if my hypothesis that Carter was hired by Harry stand). He obviously messed up bad and since the MC killed him, it might take a while until we find the truth, if we ever will.
Edit: I mentioned that Carter didn't have a reason to kill Emma. But I've re-watched the last scene and he might, actually. He wanted the MC, and possibly Charlotte to suffer the loss of Emma. He should have stuck to that plan if he wanted to succeed. Letting the MC and Charlotte catch up was greedy.
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If you search for a game mostly for the sex scenes, I highly recommend to play another one. This game is and will probably be not for you then. This is a story driven game with some adult moments so far. But to answer your question: there is no real sex scene so far.