It does not go that far.
Agent Fox was ordered to stop investigating by her direct superior. The investigation is not being officially shut down.
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Agent Fox was ordered to stop investigating by her direct superior. The investigation is not being officially shut down.
The developer is a patron. He asked if he could use Charlotte's image. I said yes.
That's as far as it goes.
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Since Fox is an FBI agent you might want to change the DA reference to a Special Agent in Charge, senior agent or something like that. A district attorney is a local prosecutor who works with city or county police agencies, whereas the FBI is a federal policing arm and isn't subject to what a local prosecutor wants. Or you could say it is the US Attorney (somewhat analogous to a DA) who is also a federal employee of the Department of Justice and who could suppress an investigation. It depends on how far up the corruption goes as to who could call her off the investigation.
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I think the whole thing was lost in translation somewhere. The script states that the DA has told 'the chief' to stop and that he isn't happy about it either.
So we do have two issues here. An FBI agent would never take orders from a local PD chief for one and secondly, as has been brought up, neither would an FBI agent take orders from a district attorney either (and unlikely a PD chief would too).
It was changed in v0.14.1 to the State Attorney General, thanks.
It was meant to be just a shorthand for "someone powerful" who might interact with the SAC on behalf of someone even more powerful.
"The chief" is what the FBI agents call their superior. If that is confusing then I can change it to something else. And the DA (now SAG) was not giving him an order. They called him and pressured him.
Hopefully some of this will be made clearer in the next update when Fox confronts her superior.
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State officers don't have any authority over federal ones. There are separate chains of command for the FBI (a part of the federal Department of Justice), the state attorney general (who might or might not be over the state police depending on the state), and then you have local city and county district attorneys who prosecute crimes that are state or local offences using local police like the ones in Hillside.
For the FBI it would be an agent in charge of a case who might be compromised. Or you could have a federal prosecutor based in Hillside, or a federal judge, who might exert pressure to shut an investigation down if they were participants in the prostitution ring.
Can anyone tell me which choice is the one that puts you on Charlotte's path and cuts off Emma's? A screenshot would be super helpful.
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Just stick with Charlotte all the way through. Emma will see MC and her kissing in the last scene and is happy she'll finally have a Dad. That will stop her romantic thoughts.
Sorry I guess I didn't explain haha. I plan to try each path so I want to know how to get on Emma's later.
Choose "Because I have feelings for her" when you kiss her.
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The MC is a bit dark and the shit that goes down can be brutal but not really crazy. It is also not like that is the whole world just the places that MC goes for his mission until he is interrupted by an Angel.
Shit in HS is dark at times as well. What happened to one Emma, what almost happened to another Emma. Things that happened to Charlotte. I honestly feel like them being a single universe meshes quite realistically. Except that Little Regina is more challenged with English at times and HS is only "not USA" with it's phrases and whatnot.
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FBI loves their alphabet soup of acronyms, but the people who make the decisions are usually called Directors. Usually something like Assistant Director of Southwest Operations or something similarly impenetrable. "I just got word from the ADSO and they're pulling the plug" Just make something up and you will be fine lol.
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This game features a very strong local ”grass roots” corruption ring:
corrupt detectives getting the cases of importance for the criminals and
doing in them what the stabby detective has been shown to be doing.
No arm of the FBI, NSA, PENTAGON, CIA or whatever shadow govt agency anyone would coin,
none of those would ever be able to unmuddle the waters, unless they actively
investigate the corrupt detectives and their criminal masterminds to connect the dots.
FBI so far is telling MC they are actively investigating the criminals and the corrupt cops.
What anyone with access to the ear of the FBI investigators can do,
they can pull on them to stop, suppress, delay, escalate or let go of one or another threads
of the investigation - consider this guy or that crime a cold trail and move on to someone
or something else.
Agent Fox had to cut the stabby detective trail out of the case in order to pursue active,
living and kicking leads she can investigate further and later propose
to a Grand Jury/judge/attorney that they would prosecute, she needs to convince them.
In the course of one ongoing investigation, anyone in law enforcement can and does chime in,
because if it were to go tits up, nobody wants to be the poster child of that fiasco.
If the operation turns out a success, everyone wants a share of the laurels.
corrupt detectives getting the cases of importance for the criminals and
doing in them what the stabby detective has been shown to be doing.
No arm of the FBI, NSA, PENTAGON, CIA or whatever shadow govt agency anyone would coin,
none of those would ever be able to unmuddle the waters, unless they actively
investigate the corrupt detectives and their criminal masterminds to connect the dots.
FBI so far is telling MC they are actively investigating the criminals and the corrupt cops.
What anyone with access to the ear of the FBI investigators can do,
they can pull on them to stop, suppress, delay, escalate or let go of one or another threads
of the investigation - consider this guy or that crime a cold trail and move on to someone
or something else.
Agent Fox had to cut the stabby detective trail out of the case in order to pursue active,
living and kicking leads she can investigate further and later propose
to a Grand Jury/judge/attorney that they would prosecute, she needs to convince them.
In the course of one ongoing investigation, anyone in law enforcement can and does chime in,
because if it were to go tits up, nobody wants to be the poster child of that fiasco.
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FBI investigations are unstoppable. By design. The United States needed an unstoppable interstate agency to fight organized crime, domestic terrorism, spies, and corruption in state, local, and federal governments. This doesn’t mean the FBI itself is unstoppable—if it ever goes rogue, the Congress can shut it down. But no other outsider can stop it. You may recall some years ago President Trump tried to interfere with an FBI investigation and got nowhere. Even when he fired the FBI Director, it didn’t stop the investigation. It wouldn’t.
So if a state AG intervened or interfered in an FBI investigation, it’d no longer be a small investigation of a local corruption case. It’d immediately turn into a large investigation of state government corruption. Attorneys general know this; even the stupid ones. Knowing what falls under FBI jurisdiction is part of the bar exam.
The only thing that could stop an FBI investigation would be no evidence (including destroyed evidence), or be someone corrupt within the Bureau—a corrupt investigator or corrupt superior. Like NewTricks said, some obscure Assistant Director will do.
Of course after the FBI does its duty and arrests a suspect, its arrest could be nullified. A corrupt federal prosecutor could refuse to prosecute (or bungle the case), or a corrupt federal judge could refuse to convict (or find any excuse for a mistrail), or a corrupt president could issue a pardon.
And if the suspect didn’t commit any federal crime, but only a state crime, the FBI would have to hand them over to the state prosecutor—and corrupt state prosecutors, state judges, and governors can likewise undo everything.
Yeah, having multiple governments makes things a little complicated in the United States. We’re used to it.
Which is why the criminal ring that runs Hillside called the FBI Special Agent in Charge and made him order Agent Fox to stop looking for new evidence.
Nobody involved in the story has the AUTHORITY to stop the investigation. But the criminal ring has the POWER to bribe, threaten, blackmail, or otherwise coerce people to do what they want them to do.
The FBI SAC has received an offer he can't refuse and issued an illegal order to Agent Fox. The question is, what is she going to do about it?
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That smell like fake Weinstein... He's the highest authority we know among other
Agent Fox asked herself how high up the corruption goes and mentioned the (state) governor. I guess we will find out who else is involved in due course.