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Maviarab

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I personally think it's good how it is
It's certainly better than a lot of games I have played on here
I would agree it is...however:

Emma's personality cannot be overlooked. If she was an only child, it could be forgiven but given her sister is only marginally older it does need addressing. Sure, siblings are not usually alike, but she is hugely underdevloped and there's no logical reason for it. Charlotte wanted to protect her from the world...ok, so why not Suzie as well? There's no coinsistency there. Also, age of the internet, no child is that naive and innocent without development issues (given her surroundings, she has not been raised cloistered in a nunnery after all).

This also (for me) leads to another issue with Charlotte and the writing which I also feel cannot be overlooked in the grand story. Charlotte has been 'at the top' for many, many years. She is well off, very well off. Why not just leave the industry years ago and move somewhere her kids could live a normal(ish) life? She says multiple times about protecting them and how bad the industry is. She doesn't need the money, hasn't needed it for a long time (especially given her apparent fairly frugal lifestyle also). Yet she still stayed in Hillside. She dould even, have stayed in the industry and moved away...again, she is the best of the best at the very top of the industry. She hasn't needed (in the context of the story) to have stayed in Hillside for years now. Many of the worlds top models (in real life) don't even live in the States, let alone live near Hollywood...they still get work.

These unfortunately, are very much contradictions with both her character and the story, as we are presented it. This is also one of my favourite VN's too, but to admonish the faults it has is honestly to be blind, because it does have many.
 
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Joshy92

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I would agree it is...however:

Emma's personality cannot be overlooked. If she was an only child, it could be forgiven but given her sister is only marginally older it does need addressing. Sure, siblings are not usually alike, but she is hugely underdevloped and there's no logical reason for it. Charlotte wanted to protect her from the world...ok, so why not Suzie as well? There's no coinsistency there. Also, age of the internet, no child is that naive and innocent without development issues (given her surroundings, she has not been raised cloistered in a nunnery after all).

This also (for me) leads to another issue with Charlotte and the writing which I also feel cannot be overlooked in the grand story. Charlotte has been 'at the top' for many, many years. She is well off, very well off. Why not just leave the industry years ago and move somewhere her kids could live a normal(ish) life? She says multiple times about protecting them and how bad the industry is. She doesn't need the money, hasn't needed it for a long time (especially given her apparent fairly frugal lifestyle also). Yet she still stayed in Hillside. She dould even, have stayed in the industry and moved away...again, she is the best of the best at the very top of the industry. She hasn't needed (in the context of the story) to have stayed in Hillside for years now. Many of the worlds top models (in real life) don't even live in the States, let alone live near Hollywood...they still get work.

These unfortunately, are very much contradictions with both her character and the story, as we are presented it. This is also one of my favourite VN's too, but to admonish the faults it has is honestly to be blind, because it does have many.
I know it's not perfect.

And I know I'm biased but one thing this game has that very few do
Is the fact that all four girls aren't trying to sleep with us during the first few days in game

I rage inside when games do that lol
 

Joshy92

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Haha
Lucy is a bit horny isn't she
For her it sort of works though
Because she has always felt inferior to Charlotte
And now some handsome dude is paying her attention she goes directly to sex

I think she has low self esteem.

But you all know me I'm looking forward to more Emma scenes
Taking her on a nice romantic date eventually would be cool
 

Bombmaster

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Dear Dev don't listen to silly people, you're beautiful and love the story so far.
:KEK:

Also how dare someone speak against Lucy. She is realistic within her inadequacy nurtured by a more successful sister and moving foward with Mc first solved the blue balls dilemma some games do perpetuate.

Emma is perfect and I fight anyone who objects.
 

Dessolos

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For me when it comes to Emma acting younger than she should. It works and doesn't work for me. With her being a LI later in the game it doesn't work for me at all as I would find it hard to be with someone like that even in a game. It just would make me feel awkward and uncomfortable at times.

But when it comes to being to the MC being a protector and a father figure it works just fine for me. It actually makes it work a bit better with her not being aware how the world works and being innocent and naive. Tho I do agree doesn't make to much sense in the story why she is like that considering Suzi and Lucy are around. Even her friend Jenny to a certain point.
 
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Old Grumpy Wolf

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Dear Dev don't listen to silly people, you're beautiful and love the story so far.
:KEK:

Also how dare someone speak against Lucy. She is realistic within her inadequacy nurtured by a more successful sister and moving foward with Mc first solved the blue balls dilemma some games do perpetuate.

Emma is perfect and I fight anyone who objects.
Her inadequacy? Nurtured by a more successful sister? Lucy has carried that family on her back. She nurtured her more successful sister when she needed it the most. Nah, bro. She's the backbone of this family. That's why I chose her. Because even during the darkest times, that woman will stand by your side.
 

Joshy92

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While Lucy is ok she pales in comparison against the brave & beautiful Emma
Imagine marrying her
Whichever guy she chose would be a lucky dude
 

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This also (for me) leads to another issue with Charlotte and the writing which I also feel cannot be overlooked in the grand story. Charlotte has been 'at the top' for many, many years. She is well off, very well off. Why not just leave the industry years ago and move somewhere her kids could live a normal(ish) life? She says multiple times about protecting them and how bad the industry is. She doesn't need the money, hasn't needed it for a long time (especially given her apparent fairly frugal lifestyle also). Yet she still stayed in Hillside. She dould even, have stayed in the industry and moved away...again, she is the best of the best at the very top of the industry. She hasn't needed (in the context of the story) to have stayed in Hillside for years now. Many of the worlds top models (in real life) don't even live in the States, let alone live near Hollywood...they still get work.

These unfortunately, are very much contradictions with both her character and the story, as we are presented it. This is also one of my favourite VN's too, but to admonish the faults it has is honestly to be blind, because it does have many.
Imagine Gisele Bündchen in Charlotte's place being nearly beaten to death by another celebrity and somehow there being no investigation or public scrutiny on the situation. The whole story is ludicrous that one of the most well known models in the world is somehow powerless to do anything but hire a bodyguard to protect her.
 

Old Grumpy Wolf

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Imagine Gisele Bündchen in Charlotte's place being nearly beaten to death by another celebrity and somehow there being no investigation or public scrutiny on the situation. The whole story is ludicrous that one of the most well known models in the world is somehow powerless to do anything but hire a bodyguard to protect her.
I guess you missed the part where she said that she didn't report it.
 

Dessolos

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It's been awhile but still the most prominent model in the world and she feels like she has no power or means to get any justice is the part that's laughable.
it's believable maybe not to you but to me it is. Because even if she is the #1 model she still is just a model and the filthy rich with money wouldn't care nor would the cops care when they got money make them look the other way. Plus she never reported it not because she thought they wouldn't do anything because Hillside is full of corruption. But because she knows if the rich people got wind that she did they would just kill her. Since her being the #1 model means nothing to those people. Money talks more than status especially in this game.
 
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rudy007

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It's been awhile but still the most prominent model in the world and she feels like she has no power or means to get any justice is the part that's laughable.
Watch Harvey Wainstein story. And aftermath of that... Their power over woman is fear. Your fame doesn't do anything good for you when you end dead in ditch. Or someone in your family. And how law works, you're innocent until proven guilty. Police is incredible inert when it comes for such things. One "big" person vs another "big" person. And in places like Hollywo Hillside police and people in ties will do anything to cover a scandal, because scandal is very embracing and bad for business...
 
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