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I'm sure it would if you were playing an Emma path (and I have no doubt DB would be doing it justice). But the guy I was replying to said that he didn't pursue Emma and then she started to develop sexual feelings for MC.
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- Nov 15, 2022
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You can't try and sell me an Adult Visual Novel, and then completely forgo almost all actual sex acts in favour of telling me a story I can find on any B-rate TV drama. If I found this game on a site like WattPad or Itch then I wouldn't complain at all, but this is clearly trying to be more than a simple AVN, because the EROTIC elements are too far & few to find here. So I am going to mainly judge in on its attempt to tell an immersive "love story" instead.
And it fails, because the characters are indeed too flat and uninspired. Not to mention, the VN keeps jumping ahead in time without telling the viewer - in one midday scene, MC or Charlotte are telling you about this event happening tomorrow, and the next render after the conversation is over is that same event, no fancy transition or anything. And that happens several times with events that are scheduled to happen some days after the convo itself. Gets annoying and slightly confusing.
Charlotte keeps flip-floping on her opinion about the MC, which is understandable at first, and just frustrating after he saved their asses for the 10th time. She doesn't have to be enthusiastic about a man living in her house that fast either, but the game clearly says he has now spent several months in their home, and Charlotte is still on the verge of slapping him to hell if he so much as looks at her in lingerie for few miliseconds too long. I am not expecting her to flash my guy anytime soon either, but she only started behaving somewhat normally in the last few scenes with him... better late than never but the damage is done.
Concerning the MC's physical prowess - don't get me wrong, I love that he isn't Mr. Olympia or Bruce Lee, but that only serves to strengthen my concerns over his involvement in the story going forward. How is an international crime syndicate still struggling against one ex-soldier? At this point, they would've sent a clean-up crew to take care of the Lloyds while they were sleeping or traveling by car to the beach. Feels like a dead-end that the dev has written himself into - either the bad guys are incompetent, or the MC is, I just don't see any other way out.
I love the potential of the story, but there is a lot of iffy things about the dialogue and supposed adultism of this game.
- Jul 25, 2017
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Problem with this is you are assuming AVN means it has to have porn or erotic scenes just because the site it's hosted on but it doesn't , it's just the most common theme on this site. I play multiple AVN's that have no lewd / nudity scenes or barley any at all and frankly I enjoy most of those more than ones that do it varies on game to game of course. Tho it does depend on what matters to you in a AVN as well. As some hold the opinion if it isn't going to have many lewd scenes or nudity it needs to have a better than average story . Not sure sounds like you might fall into that category. For me story doesn't matter all I care about is characters . Personally for me I think Charlotte is done in a way that comes across as believable for a AVN character probably not if it was real life however. It doesn't matter if there are parts I don't enjoy as I just like how well done Charlotte's character is done at least to me she is a good character , I have no issues with it. Lucy's character is pretty well written as well tho I still need to play her path but I like what I have seen of it. Not gonna argue your other points as I personally don't have any issues with what you do.
- Nov 14, 2017
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right. there is no fan art-thread so fan arts get posted to thread.Ahh fuckk.....i'm assuming this is just a fan made render and could never be in the game right? Disappointed
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I dunno, it seems like you're actively looking for things not to like here. A lot of the stuff you mention is just opinion, and that's fine, everyone is allowed their opinion. Lots of us like the characterisation, whereas you call it "flat and uninspired". That sort of stuff will never be a winner for everyone, because like our opinions, we are all different.
Again, I won't try to argue a lost cause re "AVN equals Porn" because it's been done to death here and it's one of those sticking points where some people just won't allow their view to be questioned.
Otherwise, I think you're just looking too far into this. You're talking about realism regarding a plot that we haven't been served yet. At the moment, we're just scratching the surface of what's going on, so it's a bit difficult to be talking about "an international crime syndicate struggling against one ex-soldier" (also, ever seen an action movie?).
On the back of that parenthetical, the bit about timejumps doesn't really mean anything. Are you suggesting that any time a scene doesn't immediately follow the previous scene there should be some sort of warning? Again, have you ever seen a movie, or a TV show? You don't need "fancy transitions" to tell you we're going from a daytime scene to an evening scene. If you follow the story and pay attention to the scenes you're seeing, you can easily and quickly tell what is going on—and it's natural to skip what happens between scenes, so if there isn't anything we need to know between a conversation about an event and the event itself, why shouldn't we go from one straight to the other?
I haven't checked or played this for a while. I just finished the latest version and I have two questions. Since there are so many pages, I was hoping someone with the knowledge could answer me.
1. What's with the onhold status? Did the dev say why it is on hold/for how long?
2. I've been just playing the charlotte path for a while now because it's so long between the updates and I haven't sorted my saves properly. Are the other paths, in the last 2-3 updates anything interesting? Maybe something with Agent Fox or anyone else?
Thanks
1. What's with the onhold status? Did the dev say why it is on hold/for how long?
2. I've been just playing the charlotte path for a while now because it's so long between the updates and I haven't sorted my saves properly. Are the other paths, in the last 2-3 updates anything interesting? Maybe something with Agent Fox or anyone else?
Thanks
- Nov 14, 2017
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1. dev has rl issues (reason is posted if you are interested), if/when it's removed no1 knows.
2. there was date with fox (didn't lead to sex despite that she wanted it) but only if not on any other paths, emma having dream about mc (bit naughty).
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I feel sad about the many games that end up failing or being abandoned, often due to significant challenges faced by developers or because some may have underestimated the amount of work involved.
I really hope the community can find a way to reduce the number of games that come to a halt when a developer steps away, whether for valid reasons or not. It would be fantastic to have a "vault" where game data is stored and made available to other developers if a game is deemed "abandoned." This way, another developer could at least bring the game to a conclusion, even if it’s a bit rushed.
It’s disheartening to see so many games that were funded by patrons end up in the unfortunate "on hold (for a very very long time)"or worse "abandoned" category.
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Yeah, it can happen even when you think you're firmly "not on the Emma path". Happened in my playthrough and I'm on the "Charlotte's sister" path (can't remember the name or be arsed to look it up right now).
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I think Emma and Jenny should practice kissing while I watch. I can even give them some help if they need it.
- Jul 26, 2023
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I don't know if Jenny needs any practice.
She could probably teach Emma a few things. (While you watch, of course)
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That would be heaven to witness. Girls kissing is one of the hottest things an AVN can possibly do imo.I don't know if Jenny needs any practice.
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In a perfect world for the player, yes, that would be amazing, but there are so many problems with the concept.
Firstly, in most circumstances, I imagine the original dev/s wouldn't submit their assets/work to such a vault because they intend to come back to it themselves at some point, or they have no interest anymore, or they don't want someone else continuing their work, or circumstances themselves prevent it (dev passing away, going to prison, losing everything in a house fire, etc.).
Then you have the whole rights issue, because presumably the "new" dev would look to monetise their continuation of the game, and that could just get messy.
Then of course, there's the continuation itself. Would the new dev be capable of continuing at the same level of quality as the old (in graphical, coding, and both writing and scripting terms)? Would the fans who love the game end up despising the continuation because it's not as good, or it doesn't "feel" the same, or it's now going in a different direction.
All of that is irrelevent for this game of course, because that's not where we are at, but is just in response to the valid idea.
On all paths, Emma begins to develop romantic feelings for the MC.
On Charlotte's path, these feelings do not deepen, as her desire for the MC to marry Charlotte and become her father takes precedence.
On Lucy's path, the situation is more complicated. Since the MC is not going to become her father, that conflict is absent. However, she does not want to interfere in her aunt's relationship with the MC. As a result, her feelings continue to grow, but she struggles with them.
On all other paths, Emma's feelings for the MC develop more strongly, leading to the possibility of you choosing her as your love interest.
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Personally I just don't see her that way, I love Emma and feel protective of her but it's definitely in more of a father, daughter way than anything else.
Now Charlotte on the other hand, never have I wished more for a character than to see her have a truly happy ending with the MC, see them sail off into the sunset together. Noone deserves it more.
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wait, are you telling there are actually multiple paths
so far ive seen only one path - Charlotte's path...
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For my part, I actually see 6 paths:wait, are you telling there are actually multiple paths
so far ive seen only one path - Charlotte's path...
1. and main path is the Charlotte Plus path (and I think that is the main path of HillsideVN ), in which all of the Lloyd's relationship points are collected
In the other paths, the other members of the Lloyd's are neglected or ignored
2. the pure Charlotte path
3. the pure Luzy path
4. the pure Emma path
5. the pure Suzi path
6. the professional path, all are ignored
[edit] I politely decline the other ladies offered.