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There's an interesting bdsm subtext in all the Emma and MC scenes. Doubt it will lead to any real bdsm, even light stuff . . . but it could. It's definitely there, and it's consistent.
 
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Dude I have some bad news for you
"There will never be incest in the game"
We may see some threesomes in the future but I can guarantee that they will never be between "siblings, mother-daughter"
I know that lol.....my comment was in responses to another guy who expected some special 'family bonding time' :KEK: from the ladies!
Quite frankly, I don't really care about any action between them but I am much more invested in the storyline, which is going good just a little disappointed at the pace and unnecessary addition of new characters (Brea,Chase....)
 
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So obviously I have been doing an Emma only route, as baby girl is baby girl.

But I am tempted in a Suzy route. I love that fiery ruthless girl.

And I am also tempted to do a slut rout, you know, try to fuck everything that moves, as usual. Does that work or will I be locked onto one route, like Lucy which happens soon? I don't care much about her, to be honest.
 

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So obviously I have been doing an Emma only route, as baby girl is baby girl.

But I am tempted in a Suzy route. I love that fiery ruthless girl.

And I am also tempted to do a slut rout, you know, try to fuck everything that moves, as usual. Does that work or will I be locked onto one route, like Lucy which happens soon? I don't care much about her, to be honest.
I haven't tried a slut route as I have yet to play Lucy's path. But on Charlotte's path you can sleep with Kaylah. So it might work with Lucy not sure but I don't see the point in any slut route in this game tbh. As it's a slow burn and there isn't alot of sex anyways only Lucy and Kaylah so far.
 
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I haven't tried a slut route as I have yet to play Lucy's path. But on Charlotte's path you can sleep with Kaylah. So it might work with Lucy not sure but I don't see the point in any slut route in this game tbh. As it's a slow burn and there isn't alot of sex anyways only Lucy and Kaylah so far.
It's not so much for the sex but for the potential chaos.... I get off from drama and despair...

Yes, I know I need therapy. No, I don't think it will do much good. Yes, let's watch the world burn!
 
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It's not so much for the sex but for the potential chaos.... I get off from drama and despair...

Yes, I know I need therapy. No, I don't think it will do much good. Yes, let's watch the world burn!
oh I get that I make extra saves on games just to cheat on LI just for the drama of it too , it's fun even tho not many games have given me said consequences yet for the saves.
 
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Ayhsel

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oh I get that I make extra saves on games just to cheat on LI just for the drama of it too , it's fun even tho not many games have given me said consequences yet for the saves.
Ohh another beautiful soul!! Nice to meet you :D
 

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I like how Darkblue has written the characters, even though Charlie isn't my favorite LI, but I like how the sisters are written.

Lucy is always used to being in her sister's shadow, while Charlie is the center of attention, even though she doesn't admit it, but she loves being the center of attention.
Lucy, on the other hand, feels very insecure because men have taken advantage of her to get closer to Charlie.

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So obviously I have been doing an Emma only route, as baby girl is baby girl.

But I am tempted in a Suzy route. I love that fiery ruthless girl.

And I am also tempted to do a slut rout, you know, try to fuck everything that moves, as usual. Does that work or will I be locked onto one route, like Lucy which happens soon? I don't care much about her, to be honest.
I haven't tried a slut route as I have yet to play Lucy's path. But on Charlotte's path you can sleep with Kaylah. So it might work with Lucy not sure but I don't see the point in any slut route in this game tbh. As it's a slow burn and there isn't alot of sex anyways only Lucy and Kaylah so far.
The game has a decent amount of logic checking built into it for relationship status, so I don't think high drama will be incoming. Based on what's in the game now, Main Girl paths are exclusive of each other, which fits what the dev said. The side girls seem to be restricted by official relationships. Lucy is the only Main Girl that has a clearly etched "path" in which they refer to each other as boyfriend/girlfriend. Thus, the MC automatically declines Kaylah if on Lucy's path. However, since there is no official "start" to any of the other paths yet, MC can date Kaylah. If you pursue Charlotte, her thoughts about Kaylah are quite different than if you are not on her "unofficial" path start. I'll be curious to see how the paths roll out if MC decides to explore being serious with Kaylah... if it's consistent with the Lucy approach, it should start to close off other routes in later episodes.

WARNING! Long wall of text below.

The variables are Boolean (true/false) and track the "status" of relationships as best I can tell. There seem to be 3 confirmed relationships thus far, plus Fox:
  • Charlotte:
    • mom_choice_03 - works up to, and including, half of episode 12.
    • mom_choice_04 - is created half way through episode 12 (line 1435) copying the value of mom_choice_03. From then onwards, only 04 used. When episode 13 starts, there is a check to see if _04 exists, and if not copies the value from _03. Not sure why this changed half way through episode 12.
  • Lucy:
    • aunt_choice_03
  • Kaylah:
    • kay_choice_01 - used up until the "discussion" about getting serious with Kaylah in episode 16.
    • kaylah_continue_relationship - If continuing the relationship, this is created and used for the rest of the chapter.
  • Fox:
    • fox_relationship - used for whatever the path will be.
I have not yet found any variable that tracks a relationship for:
  • Emma - all her variables start with 'yd_' (young daughter) and they stop accruing after episode 10. From episode 11-16 there are no variables of hers created or assessed (IF statements)
  • Suzi - all her variables start with 'od_' (old daughter) and there are only a couple created in episodes 4 and 11. Outside that, no other choice made is tracked.
If you are on one "path", such as they currently are, the game does check before scenes play out. For example:
  • Single path checks: If on <li path> then play one scene; otherwise play different scene
  • Multiple paths: If on <li path1> display one scene; else if on <li path2> play a different scene; otherwise play a third scene.
There are also relationship points (pts_aunt, pts_mom, pts_yd, pts_od). Kaylah and Fox do not have points. The points are not determinative of a relationship metric, but needed if you want additional scenes and choices with one of the Lloyds.


Perhaps the most unique scenario I've found thus far involves both the Fox and Kaylah paths. In Episode 15 (ep151.rpy line 1619 - the rpy is called at the end of ep15.rpy), if you are on both the Fox and Kaylah path, then the MC will "break up" with Kaylah. No choice or option, it just happens in the conversation. It's the most dramatic scene I've come across thus far... so I don't expect a lot in the way of drama. Note: 'pl' is the MC, and 'model' is Kaylah in the below:

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The game has a decent amount of logic checking built into it for relationship status, so I don't think high drama will be incoming. Based on what's in the game now, Main Girl paths are exclusive of each other, which fits what the dev said. The side girls seem to be restricted by official relationships. Lucy is the only Main Girl that has a clearly etched "path" in which they refer to each other as boyfriend/girlfriend. Thus, the MC automatically declines Kaylah if on Lucy's path. However, since there is no official "start" to any of the other paths yet, MC can date Kaylah. If you pursue Charlotte, her thoughts about Kaylah are quite different than if you are not on her "unofficial" path start. I'll be curious to see how the paths roll out if MC decides to explore being serious with Kaylah... if it's consistent with the Lucy approach, it should start to close off other routes in later episodes.

WARNING! Long wall of text below.

The variables are Boolean (true/false) and track the "status" of relationships as best I can tell. There seem to be 3 confirmed relationships thus far, plus Fox:
  • Charlotte:
    • mom_choice_03 - works up to, and including, half of episode 12.
    • mom_choice_04 - is created half way through episode 12 (line 1435) copying the value of mom_choice_03. From then onwards, only 04 used. When episode 13 starts, there is a check to see if _04 exists, and if not copies the value from _03. Not sure why this changed half way through episode 12.
  • Lucy:
    • aunt_choice_03
  • Kaylah:
    • kay_choice_01 - used up until the "discussion" about getting serious with Kaylah in episode 16.
    • kaylah_continue_relationship - If continuing the relationship, this is created and used for the rest of the chapter.
  • Fox:
    • fox_relationship - used for whatever the path will be.
I have not yet found any variable that tracks a relationship for:
  • Emma - all her variables start with 'yd_' (young daughter) and they stop accruing after episode 10. From episode 11-16 there are no variables of hers created or assessed (IF statements)
  • Suzi - all her variables start with 'od_' (old daughter) and there are only a couple created in episodes 4 and 11. Outside that, no other choice made is tracked.
If you are on one "path", such as they currently are, the game does check before scenes play out. For example:
  • Single path checks: If on <li path> then play one scene; otherwise play different scene
  • Multiple paths: If on <li path1> display one scene; else if on <li path2> play a different scene; otherwise play a third scene.
There are also relationship points (pts_aunt, pts_mom, pts_yd, pts_od). Kaylah and Fox do not have points. The points are not determinative of a relationship metric, but needed if you want additional scenes and choices with one of the Lloyds.


Perhaps the most unique scenario I've found thus far involves both the Fox and Kaylah paths. In Episode 15 (ep151.rpy line 1619 - the rpy is called at the end of ep15.rpy), if you are on both the Fox and Kaylah path, then the MC will "break up" with Kaylah. No choice or option, it just happens in the conversation. It's the most dramatic scene I've come across thus far... so I don't expect a lot in the way of drama. Note: 'pl' is the MC, and 'model' is Kaylah in the below:

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But, wait! Did anyone notice there are no variable changes? I'm guessing it's an oversight, as Kaylah's path was not actually ended. I would have expected to see kay_choice_01 = False and/or kaylah_continue_relationship = False to be set. So he tells her he's breaking up with her, but never actually does going by the game internals.
oh yeah this one of the games I don't attempt a drama save cause I doubt it would be possible
 

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Anybody else getting no sound or dialog durring the bodygurard/kaylah bedroom scene?
 

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It's not so much for the sex but for the potential chaos.... I get off from drama and despair...

Yes, I know I need therapy. No, I don't think it will do much good. Yes, let's watch the world burn!
I see i am not the only one. You made me happy, thank you for that :)
 
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Anybody else getting no sound or dialog durring the bodygurard/kaylah bedroom scene?
If you mean the sex scene, it's not finished yet.

Hi everyone,
Unfortunately, I’ve run into an issue with one scene that I’m not happy with and won’t be able to finish it before I leave tomorrow. It’s a lewd scene involving Kaylah, so it is exclusive to her path. All the other paths are unaffected and complete.

I’ve left in a series of images that you can click through to see what happens in the scene, but there’s no accompanying text - my apologies for that. I’ll complete it once I’m back, so it's up to you whether you’d prefer to wait to play Kaylah’s path or go ahead as is.
 
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