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tslojr

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I also hate to say it, but Charlotte's ex also has to return bc he's at the heart of the problems, even if indirectly. He's the one that broke Charlotte, which lead to the systemic problems she has allowed herself to endure, even if while trying (and failing) to protect others from them. And for her to have any chance to truly resolve the systemic problems she desires to take on, she will have to resolve the one that started it all or else put herself and those around her at even greater risk.
Charlotte's ex? Are you referring to the guy that she never had a relationship with that nearly beat her to death in an alley? Pretty sure that's not her ex.
 

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Charlotte's ex? Are you referring to the guy that she never had a relationship with that nearly beat her to death in an alley? Pretty sure that's not her ex.
You are correct. The guy that beat Charlotte in the alley was not the ex-husband. It was an actor that went after her when he thought she had a video of him making MC's *original* Emma take drugs to die of an overdose. He was part of the group involved in luring and grooming women, along with the director.

Based on the retelling of Charlotte he just abandoned the family. That wasn't what caused her trauma with me. The above guy was front and centre there.
 

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You are correct. The guy that beat Charlotte in the alley was not the ex-husband. It was an actor that went after her when he thought she had a video of him making MC's *original* Emma take drugs to die of an overdose. He was part of the group involved in luring and grooming women, along with the director.

Based on the retelling of Charlotte he just abandoned the family. That wasn't what caused her trauma with me. The above guy was front and centre there.
In fairness, I was being a little tongue-in-cheek. Bro typed a whole-ass manuscript about what should be going on with the story of the game and in doing so clearly demonstrated he hasn't even been paying attention to the story.
 

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Honestly, I'd argue that this story has largely reached its inevitable end. I'm surprised that it doesn't have a completed tag, as any continuation of THIS story will be a disservice to what we have. That's not to say their stories can't be iterated upon, just that the events leading up to this point have concluded as cleanly as they ever could. From here, we will have to return to a state of escalation rather than resolution. And while I'd say this story could be refined and even slightly expanded upon, it's too near perfect for what it is to just continue on.

From both a storytelling and business level, it makes sense to wrap up anything here that isn't quite resolved (that list is very short) and just start a direct sequel. Something I prefer over seasons, optically. It's easier for us to separate iterations from continuations. Ghostbusters being objectively superior to Ghostbusters 2 doesn't detract from those movies, but GoT seasons 7 and 8 ABSOLUTELY detract from the series as a whole.

And if Hillside falls off from this point, where there is already a near perfect resolution to events from the information we currently have, it could destroy what Hillside has established. As it is, to build on what we have we have to go back through the process of escalation. And it's going to have to be a much harder to resolve problem, as we are now moving into systemic problems and away from just the peripheral ones we've experience so far.

I also hate to say it, but Charlotte's ex also has to return bc he's at the heart of the problems, even if indirectly. He's the one that broke Charlotte, which lead to the systemic problems she has allowed herself to endure, even if while trying (and failing) to protect others from them. And for her to have any chance to truly resolve the systemic problems she desires to take on, she will have to resolve the one that started it all or else put herself and those around her at even greater risk.

The only writer I'd trust more in this space is Drifty. And a big part of that is him knowing it was time to move on to U4IA. I don't even think I'd suggest a remaster of this game, unless it was just to future tighten up the dialogue or give the player more decisions to and flexibility to pursue Lucy or Charlotte. Maybe an option to stay professional through this entire game while maintaining the option to pursue Charlotte, Lucy, Emma, Suzi in any further stories. Or maybe even someone else. Personally, I could understand a path with any of Charlotte, Lucy or Emma (I don't find Suzi physically attractive and short of a breaking/corruption arc, I find her personality abhorrent.) Those 3, while flawed, have some amazing individual strengths and relatable weaknesses. Unlike Suzi, they're fully fleshed out characters who you get to see at their best and worst and you know any of them would die to protect the ones they love. Suzi is definitely the exception. Her actions/behavior could very well have caused great harm to those she alleges to care about and never once truly stopped to consider that possibility.
You can make your own dream come true.

Don't download any more updates and press the ignore button at the top of the page.
The story will end for you and you'll be happy. :)

Meanwhile, those of us that want to see the development of the characters and the relationship(s) finale(s) can enjoy the future updates. And we'll be happy.

Everybody wins. :love:
 
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Honestly, I'd argue that this story has largely reached its inevitable end. I'm surprised that it doesn't have a completed tag, as any continuation of THIS story will be a disservice to what we have. That's not to say their stories can't be iterated upon, just that the events leading up to this point have concluded as cleanly as they ever could. From here, we will have to return to a state of escalation rather than resolution. And while I'd say this story could be refined and even slightly expanded upon, it's too near perfect for what it is to just continue on.

From both a storytelling and business level, it makes sense to wrap up anything here that isn't quite resolved (that list is very short) and just start a direct sequel. Something I prefer over seasons, optically. It's easier for us to separate iterations from continuations. Ghostbusters being objectively superior to Ghostbusters 2 doesn't detract from those movies, but GoT seasons 7 and 8 ABSOLUTELY detract from the series as a whole.

And if Hillside falls off from this point, where there is already a near perfect resolution to events from the information we currently have, it could destroy what Hillside has established. As it is, to build on what we have we have to go back through the process of escalation. And it's going to have to be a much harder to resolve problem, as we are now moving into systemic problems and away from just the peripheral ones we've experience so far.

I also hate to say it, but Charlotte's ex also has to return bc he's at the heart of the problems, even if indirectly. He's the one that broke Charlotte, which lead to the systemic problems she has allowed herself to endure, even if while trying (and failing) to protect others from them. And for her to have any chance to truly resolve the systemic problems she desires to take on, she will have to resolve the one that started it all or else put herself and those around her at even greater risk.

The only writer I'd trust more in this space is Drifty. And a big part of that is him knowing it was time to move on to U4IA. I don't even think I'd suggest a remaster of this game, unless it was just to future tighten up the dialogue or give the player more decisions to and flexibility to pursue Lucy or Charlotte. Maybe an option to stay professional through this entire game while maintaining the option to pursue Charlotte, Lucy, Emma, Suzi in any further stories. Or maybe even someone else. Personally, I could understand a path with any of Charlotte, Lucy or Emma (I don't find Suzi physically attractive and short of a breaking/corruption arc, I find her personality abhorrent.) Those 3, while flawed, have some amazing individual strengths and relatable weaknesses. Unlike Suzi, they're fully fleshed out characters who you get to see at their best and worst and you know any of them would die to protect the ones they love. Suzi is definitely the exception. Her actions/behavior could very well have caused great harm to those she alleges to care about and never once truly stopped to consider that possibility.
Let me tell you a little secret. Every story consists of some elements, such as prologue, exposition, introduction, development, culmination, resolution, and epilogue. We're at the development point now. What does culmination mean? Culmination is the highest point of tension in the story, which is what you mean: “From here, we will have to return to a state of escalation rather than resolution”. But there doesn't have to be one culmination, there can be several of them. It all depends on the author's wishes and the size of the work.

I'm even curious about where you read about the continuation of the story.... We haven't finished Hillside 1 yet, and you're already thinking about Hillside 2. Let's not run in front of the carriage.

The story is excellent for this genre of games, because DB - the author of this game and the plot - does his amazing job, he wanted to do it and share his work with the world, not because he wants to make easy money. This is palpable and visible, clear as a day. And the people gathered here, on this forum, understand that.

Whether the author divides his work into seasons or releases it as a part/version (whatever), it is always the author's decision.

“[…]it makes sense to wrap up anything here that isn't quite resolved (that list is very short) and just start a direct sequel”. – I dare to assume that you also don’t follow through with your work, because you say such things.

“[…] It's easier for us to separate iterations from continuations”. – Did you understand what you said?

“And it's going to have to be much harder to resolve problems, as we are now moving into systemic problems and away from just the peripheral ones we've experienced so far.” – Who told you, and why did you assume that “peripheral” problems will not be solved?

Charlie's ex-boyfriend doesn't need to return physically (they shouldn't meet), but he should be included in the plot in Charlie's memories, in her comparison of the MC with her ex. Charlie's ex-boyfriend is not the main cause of Charlie's PTSD. Have you even read the text of the game, delved into the plot?

What do you consider a “systemic problem”, and a peripheral one? Is Charlie's main problem a systemic problem? How is it systemic? Open the dictionary and read the meaning of the word "systemic". Her main problem is not that her daughters' father left her (read the text of the game! Jeez...) How will she put herself and those around her at risk? What kind of nonsense are you talking about?!

I’m sorry, but it is difficult to reply seriously to the rest of your comment – it’s just some ravings.

Although you wrote a lot, it is all about nothing...
 

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I don't have too many problems with this game. One of the ones that I do have is the pacing of Suzi's story in relation to the other love interests. Sure, Chari's love story is clearly the most frustrating but Suzi's seems the most frustrated. In that it hasn't really moved. This is why so many players shrug emoji Suzi or write her off as a rage monster. You try to imagine a future where MC picks this toxic, hostile relationship over the other girls who offer him love and affection and your face kinda looks like this...

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I mean fucking why? What does Suzi have to offer at this point in the narrative other than a strong backstroke and a solid left hook? If she tried to go to therapy her therapist would probably end up in the nut hatch. She is an overflowing pillock of jealousy and resentment with all the grace of a kick to the bollox. Not even in a cute way. It is my assertion that it didn't have to be this way. There were opportunities early on in the story for Suzi's story to branch more toward building bridges to an endgame relationship with MC. Instead, she blew them up. At this point, it would just seem either forced or tacked on as an afterthought. I would welcome being wrong about this, but something would need to develop dramatically in her story rather immediately to course correct the mess that it has become.
 
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At this point, it would just seem either forced or tacked on as an afterthought.
A Doylist interpretation is open to a fan service relationship, where Suzi is all "I HATE YOU! I HATE YOU! I HATE YOU!" during the day and "RIDE ME YOU STALLION!" by night.

The Watsonian interpretation of the above is it's an abusive relationship... which is not out of bounds, but probably not in too many people's tastes.
 
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bruh this shit's beyond stupid im on chap 11 as of now and was liking emma but she's just beyond stupid and then she says I'm not a child anymore dayum this is ridiculous no one falls in love that ridiculously even at her age or anyone isolated like her , bitch even deteriorated my points with suzi , and god I feel for ma boi david man got beat up only to thought of as mean by a bitch like emma , I mean prove yourself your not a child and that starts with avoiding idiocy rather just charging headfast towards it :cautious::cautious:
 

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Is it realistic for a shy, immature 18-year-old girl to assert that she is not a child anymore, even though she acts like one?

ChatGPT said:

Yes, it is entirely realistic for a shy, immature 18-year-old girl to assert that she is not a child anymore, even if her behavior contradicts her claim. This dynamic reflects a natural tension between identity, maturity, and self-perception. Here’s why:

1. Age and Milestones
Turning 18 is often seen as a symbolic entry into adulthood, with legal and societal responsibilities attached. Even if a person doesn’t feel fully mature, they may assert their adulthood to affirm their independence or because they believe they are expected to do so.

2. Emotional Immaturity vs. Perception of Adulthood
Many 18-year-olds are still figuring out who they are, and their emotional maturity may lag behind their chronological age. Despite this, they may feel compelled to assert their adulthood as a way of claiming their identity or pushing back against perceived condescension.
This gap between behavior and self-perception is common and reflective of the journey from adolescence to adulthood.

3. Rebellion Against Authority
If she feels others are treating her like a child or undermining her autonomy, she might overcompensate by emphatically declaring that she is no longer a child. This response can be a defensive mechanism to establish boundaries or gain respect.

4. Desire for Independence
Even if she’s shy or immature, she may yearn for freedom, self-determination, or validation as an adult. This desire can drive her to assert her adulthood, even if her actions don’t fully align with that role yet.

5. Lack of Self-Awareness
Immaturity often comes with a limited ability to reflect on one’s own behavior. She may genuinely believe she’s acting like an adult, not recognizing how her actions might appear childish to others.

6. Social and Cultural Influences
Cultural expectations around adulthood might play a role. In some cultures, reaching 18 is heavily tied to becoming an adult, regardless of emotional readiness. This societal pressure can lead her to assert her maturity prematurely.

7. Emotional Complexity
Asserting adulthood while acting like a child can reflect the complexity of her feelings. She may simultaneously want to embrace her newfound independence and cling to the safety and simplicity of childhood, creating a tension in her behavior.

Conclusion
This kind of contradiction—declaring “I’m not a child” while behaving immaturely—is not only realistic but also quite common during the transition to adulthood. It provides an excellent opportunity for character development, highlighting the challenges of growing up, navigating independence, and understanding oneself. This dynamic could be used effectively in storytelling to add depth and relatability to her character.


How easily can a shy, sheltered 18-year-old girl, who was abandoned by her father, fall in love with a handsome bodyguard who gives her lots of attention?

ChatGPT said:

The scenario you’ve described provides fertile ground for a romantic connection to develop, especially in a fictional or dramatized context. Here's an analysis of the factors at play:

Emotional Vulnerability:
A shy and sheltered girl may have limited exposure to relationships and emotional connections outside her immediate circle. This can make her more receptive to someone who shows genuine interest or attention, especially if she feels emotionally neglected.
Being abandoned by her father could result in a longing for security, validation, and male attention, potentially making her more susceptible to forming an attachment to someone who fulfills these emotional needs.

Dynamic of the Relationship:
The bodyguard's role naturally involves protecting and prioritizing her well-being. This dynamic can create a sense of safety and trust, which are foundational for emotional intimacy.
His handsomeness and attentiveness could amplify her attraction, especially if she hasn't experienced much positive male attention before.

Power Imbalance and Heroic Perception:
The bodyguard might be perceived as strong, capable, and dependable—qualities that might stand out to someone who feels vulnerable or inexperienced in relationships.
The power imbalance in their relationship (his role as a protector and her dependence on him for safety) could lead her to idealize him, even if unintentionally.

Pacing of Emotional Connection:
If he is consistently kind, supportive, and attentive over time, her feelings could naturally deepen. However, the intensity of her emotions might also be heightened by her sheltered upbringing, as the experience could feel novel and overwhelming.

Psychological Projection:
She might subconsciously project her need for security and love onto him, mistaking gratitude or admiration for romantic love.

Potential Complications:
The relationship’s foundation matters. If her feelings stem solely from dependency or lack of experience, the bond may be less stable in the long term.
The bodyguard's response to her feelings would also influence the outcome—whether he reciprocates, maintains professional boundaries, or exploits her vulnerability.

In summary, it's quite plausible for a shy, sheltered girl to develop strong feelings for a protective and attentive bodyguard, given her background and emotional needs. The depth and authenticity of her love would depend on how the relationship evolves and whether it allows her to grow beyond her initial vulnerabilities. This dynamic could work well in a story, creating room for emotional complexity and character development.
 

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bruh this shit's beyond stupid im on chap 11 as of now and was liking emma but she's just beyond stupid and then she says I'm not a child anymore dayum this is ridiculous no one falls in love that ridiculously even at her age or anyone isolated like her , bitch even deteriorated my points with suzi , and god I feel for ma boi david man got beat up only to thought of as mean by a bitch like emma , I mean prove yourself your not a child and that starts with avoiding idiocy rather just charging headfast towards it :cautious::cautious:
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Is it realistic for a shy, immature 18-year-old girl to assert that she is not a child anymore, even though she acts like one?

ChatGPT said:

Yes, it is entirely realistic for a shy, immature 18-year-old girl to assert that she is not a child anymore, even if her behavior contradicts her claim. This dynamic reflects a natural tension between identity, maturity, and self-perception. Here’s why:

1. Age and Milestones
Turning 18 is often seen as a symbolic entry into adulthood, with legal and societal responsibilities attached. Even if a person doesn’t feel fully mature, they may assert their adulthood to affirm their independence or because they believe they are expected to do so.

2. Emotional Immaturity vs. Perception of Adulthood
Many 18-year-olds are still figuring out who they are, and their emotional maturity may lag behind their chronological age. Despite this, they may feel compelled to assert their adulthood as a way of claiming their identity or pushing back against perceived condescension.
This gap between behavior and self-perception is common and reflective of the journey from adolescence to adulthood.

3. Rebellion Against Authority
If she feels others are treating her like a child or undermining her autonomy, she might overcompensate by emphatically declaring that she is no longer a child. This response can be a defensive mechanism to establish boundaries or gain respect.

4. Desire for Independence
Even if she’s shy or immature, she may yearn for freedom, self-determination, or validation as an adult. This desire can drive her to assert her adulthood, even if her actions don’t fully align with that role yet.

5. Lack of Self-Awareness
Immaturity often comes with a limited ability to reflect on one’s own behavior. She may genuinely believe she’s acting like an adult, not recognizing how her actions might appear childish to others.

6. Social and Cultural Influences
Cultural expectations around adulthood might play a role. In some cultures, reaching 18 is heavily tied to becoming an adult, regardless of emotional readiness. This societal pressure can lead her to assert her maturity prematurely.

7. Emotional Complexity
Asserting adulthood while acting like a child can reflect the complexity of her feelings. She may simultaneously want to embrace her newfound independence and cling to the safety and simplicity of childhood, creating a tension in her behavior.

Conclusion
This kind of contradiction—declaring “I’m not a child” while behaving immaturely—is not only realistic but also quite common during the transition to adulthood. It provides an excellent opportunity for character development, highlighting the challenges of growing up, navigating independence, and understanding oneself. This dynamic could be used effectively in storytelling to add depth and relatability to her character.


How easily can a shy, sheltered 18-year-old girl, who was abandoned by her father, fall in love with a handsome bodyguard who gives her lots of attention?

ChatGPT said:

The scenario you’ve described provides fertile ground for a romantic connection to develop, especially in a fictional or dramatized context. Here's an analysis of the factors at play:

Emotional Vulnerability:
A shy and sheltered girl may have limited exposure to relationships and emotional connections outside her immediate circle. This can make her more receptive to someone who shows genuine interest or attention, especially if she feels emotionally neglected.
Being abandoned by her father could result in a longing for security, validation, and male attention, potentially making her more susceptible to forming an attachment to someone who fulfills these emotional needs.

Dynamic of the Relationship:
The bodyguard's role naturally involves protecting and prioritizing her well-being. This dynamic can create a sense of safety and trust, which are foundational for emotional intimacy.
His handsomeness and attentiveness could amplify her attraction, especially if she hasn't experienced much positive male attention before.

Power Imbalance and Heroic Perception:
The bodyguard might be perceived as strong, capable, and dependable—qualities that might stand out to someone who feels vulnerable or inexperienced in relationships.
The power imbalance in their relationship (his role as a protector and her dependence on him for safety) could lead her to idealize him, even if unintentionally.

Pacing of Emotional Connection:
If he is consistently kind, supportive, and attentive over time, her feelings could naturally deepen. However, the intensity of her emotions might also be heightened by her sheltered upbringing, as the experience could feel novel and overwhelming.

Psychological Projection:
She might subconsciously project her need for security and love onto him, mistaking gratitude or admiration for romantic love.

Potential Complications:
The relationship’s foundation matters. If her feelings stem solely from dependency or lack of experience, the bond may be less stable in the long term.
The bodyguard's response to her feelings would also influence the outcome—whether he reciprocates, maintains professional boundaries, or exploits her vulnerability.

In summary, it's quite plausible for a shy, sheltered girl to develop strong feelings for a protective and attentive bodyguard, given her background and emotional needs. The depth and authenticity of her love would depend on how the relationship evolves and whether it allows her to grow beyond her initial vulnerabilities. This dynamic could work well in a story, creating room for emotional complexity and character development.
While I can understand it fully, personally I just don't see Emma that way and I'm not judging anyone that does btw. For me she's like a daughter to the MC and while I will try out her content when it comes, Charlotte will always be my queen.
Each to their own though, that's the good thing about having choices in the game.
 

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bruh this shit's beyond stupid im on chap 11 as of now and was liking emma but she's just beyond stupid and then she says I'm not a child anymore dayum this is ridiculous no one falls in love that ridiculously even at her age or anyone isolated like her , bitch even deteriorated my points with suzi , and god I feel for ma boi david man got beat up only to thought of as mean by a bitch like emma , I mean prove yourself your not a child and that starts with avoiding idiocy rather just charging headfast towards it :cautious::cautious:
I think that this game isn't for you "bruh"
 
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