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Just curious, any ideas for a second game? Have you given it any thoughts on what's next after this masterpiece? :)
I've only been working on the script so far, but this month I'll be focusing entirely on Hitomi. I thought I mentioned this in the public posts on Patreon.
 
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Will you release the full gallery unlock with no codes, once you finished this game completely?
 

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HSP V0.71

Hey, everyone!

The first ending of The Cuck Route—probably the roughest of the three, but don’t expect it to be anything like The Slave Route endings. There are in-game hints (OnlyFucks girl ending) if you want to get this ending from the start, or you can just use the 'To New Content' button in the main menu as always.

Thanks for the support, and I hope you enjoy this update!

Windows/Linux : - G

Mac : - G

Android : - G
 

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Oh come one really???

AI CG? THIS LATE IN DEVELOPMENT?

So what the dev lost all motivation in drawing their own stuff? I liked their artstyle.

Fuck off, I was hyped for the game since it is in the last stages but now it deflated completely. I fully intended to buy my own copy once the game is finished but now no chance.

What a dumb decision. Imagine playing through the majority of the game only to be greeted with AI later on. No wonder the estimate of the finished game are 2-3 months if the art is being outsourced to AI.

Didn't know the player gets cucked with AI as well during the cuck route. The drawn artstyle and this just clashes.

Has this been communicated at all?

Nice start to the weekend.....not.
 
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The developer has some very loyal Patreons, despite many games getting their codes leaked on F95 i've never seen someone share the code in this thread without deleting it despite many of them asking for it :D
 

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Oh come one really???

AI CG? THIS LATE IN DEVELOPMENT?

So what the dev lost all motivation in drawing their own stuff? I liked their artstyle.

Fuck off, I was hyped for the game since it is in the last stages but now it deflated completely. I fully intended to buy my own copy once the game is finished but now no chance.

What a dumb decision. Imagine playing through the majority of the game only to be greeted with AI later on. No wonder the estimate of the finished game are 2-3 months if the art is being outsourced to AI.

Didn't know the player gets cucked with AI as well during the cuck route. The drawn artstyle and this just clashes.

Has this been communicated at all?

Nice start to the weekend.....not.
No, AI was only used for backgrounds and partially for some clothing elements, but only after I had drawn the base myself, which I never hid. Everything else was hand-drawn. I have all the PSD files with everything separated into layers and drawn by me—it takes quite a bit of time to create, in general, it even takes much longer than the basic CG that was in the slave route and such timelines because endings freaking need more words and more CG in the update than default 3-4. Plus, you can run it through any AI detection service, and it’ll show around 1-10% because of the backgrounds. It’s a very weird accusation, considering I spend even more time on the game making the visuals look better, only to get a pile of crap thrown in my face.
 
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No, AI was only used for backgrounds and partially for some clothing elements, but only after I had drawn the base myself, which I never hid. Everything else was hand-drawn. I have all the PSD files with everything separated into layers and drawn by me—it takes quite a bit of time to create, in general, it even takes much longer than the basic CG that was in the slave route and such timelines because endings freaking need more words and more CG in the update than default 3-4. Plus, you can run it through any AI detection service, and it’ll show around 1-10% because of the backgrounds. It’s a very weird accusation, considering I spend even more time on the game making the visuals look better, only to get a pile of crap thrown in my face.
So you are telling me that the second pic in the spoiler below is also hand drawn?
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That you improved and changed your drawings this dramatically since conception of the game?

Bro, if so I take the L and apologize but the colour grain and shading just screamed AI to me.
 
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So you are telling me that the second pic in the spoiler below is also hand drawn?
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That you improved and changed your drawings this dramatically since conception of the game?

Bro, if so I take the L and apologize but the colour grain and shading just screamed AI to me.

I can show you where the AI was used—I marked it in red (and the couch in the back too).

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But even then, it was img2img after I had already drawn the base outlines, shadows, and curves. And even after using img2img, I clean up artifacts and redraw areas that didn’t turn out well.

As for improving my art, you can trace the progress starting from the BBC subroute and beyond. I finally learned how to draw hair properly, got a better grasp on keeping Hitomi’s face consistent, and figured out how to work with line weight. But I’m still not a professional—I still have problems with geometry, perspective and some details. Overall, patrons (at least I've only heard positive feedback.) are happy with the new improvements and have even asked for the initial CGs to be redone.
 
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I can show you where the AI was used—I marked it in red (and the couch in the back too).

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But even then, it was img2img after I had already drawn the base outlines, shadows, and curves. And even after using img2img, I clean up artifacts and redraw areas that didn’t turn out well.

As for improving my art, you can trace the progress starting from the BBC subroute and beyond. I finally learned how to draw hair properly, got a better grasp on keeping Hitomi’s face consistent, and figured out how to work with line weight. But I’m still not a professional—I still have problems with geometry, perspective and some details. Overall, patrons (at least I've only heard positive feedback.) are happy with the new improvements and have even asked for the initial CGs to be redone.
Damn, colour me impressed.

I tend to be impulsive and post whats on my mind so sometimes it backfires. Which happened here.

Sorry for that.
I wasn't in the right mindspace and should have gathered some more infos by myself.

Sure AI has helped in some instances but if this in general is your natural progression since 2022 it is damn impressive. Be proud of that.
I would agree with the patreons then for some early CGs to be redone.

Anyway I will go back lurking in shame :HideThePain:
 
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Honestly it's pretty amazing people can use this tech to assist their work while still putting their soul into it and that's amazing.
I'd love to see some of the older scenes done like this as well.

Anyway that aside I'm on the fence about playing the update now or wait until the cuck routes are complete in full.

Do you still plan on doing the "fanservice" route like you said two years ago?
 
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