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It would take a lot of work to change the PC's image, but maybe for 2.x we could have a skinnier version of the PC for Strength 5 or less. From 6 to 8, we get the normal body we always see. Then for strength 9 and up, we could get a true bodybuilder type body.
Alternately, the image we have could be the little one, with him increasing size twice, but this would probably be harder to pull off and having a huge PC might bother some players..
However, let's think about how many images this would require the Developer to make. Ivy's arrival would have to have three versions with text also changed. One where she says: "You're pretty puny. You're going to have to start lifting if you want me to notice you." A second one which we already have, and a third one where she says: "I thought you were just a little guy, now I see that you're huge." Ivy's true strength would need two extra versions. Yvette's dinner would need a large amount of renders. And the list goes on.
I estimate 60 to 120 renders for the whole game, but that's not the worst of it. Every sex scene animation would need two more versions!
However, I've also been bothered that he gets a lot stronger but his image stays the same. So I like the idea, it just needs to be put off until all of the cornerstones are in place.

Allowing for a squat image and an inclined sit up image, say, which would rotate when you work out at the gym without Jennifer would probably be easy enough to accomplish. For workouts with Jennifer, she could say, "Good, PC, now finish up with some sit ups (or squats)," then cut to the new image and have the PC say: "Jennifer really makes sure you get a good workout," to finish the scene. However, always apply Alice's Razor (formally Faye's Razor), would you rather see your new idea or play Hotshots with Alice? If Alice wins, then your idea goes on the back burner.

More important, I think, is your wanting the PC's taking a blue pill to effect a scene more. Right now every scene has one version, so only Faye seems aware of what the blue pill can do. (Although I have had Alice mention it in her text after her pole dance.) It would be nice to take a blue pill and get a different version of a scene.
This would have to wait until 2.x because it's not really a cornerstone of the game, like getting each girl pecs training, bench pressing and pull-ups, or even getting Lacey her sperm congestion scene and Brenda her reception interactions.
However, if a small goal were set, like having handjobs on the PC have 2 versions: one for normal 8" size and a second for his blue pill size (maybe twice his normal size?). This is still an extraodinary amount of renders, but it could be built up to by checking each girl off one by one for each new version. So, 2.1 could have Jessica get her HJ at the bar, while 2.2 could have Heather get her massage HJ.
This would take a while, but is it worth it? I think so because it would set the stage for offering two versions of every sex scene. However, the Developer may disagree, and if he isn't enthusiastic about a new idea, it may never happen.

Anyway, that's my take on it. Darkhound1 may hate it, he may love it, he may even improve it.
We'll have to wait and see.
 
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question to your Q#15 - training:
if I'm understand correctly ... requirements for increase of strength goes up ... so when I'm level 9 and want to go to 10 I need
to hit the gym 12 times for a week (than i can keep level 10 by doing it once) ... so I need for example train each day + massage+5times doing it twice a day. Thats correct?
Don't train more then 4 times in each per week.
That leave's you one training margin for forced training. Like when you get hot and go swimming to cool of.
Training more then 5 times a week reduces the effect.
 

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It would take a lot of work to change the PC's image, but maybe for 2.x we could have a skinnier version of the PC for Strength 5 or less.
I estimate 60 to 120 renders for the whole game, but that's not the worst of it. Every sex scene animation would need two more versions!
You should count again :)
There are 134 kissing images, same number of hugging, give present, groping images in the game.
So that alone is more than 600. I didn't even check for anything else. But you can be sure it's hundreds more. All in all you would be looking at 1000 additional renders, probably even more.
Sorry, but changing the guy (or having several versions of him) is not going to happen.
 
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hottarod

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Just to be clear, I am not writing these things simply to be critical. I'm not like that. What we already have is outstanding.

I was just hoping for more muscle in the arms and maybe optionally maybe some shoulders/back/chest definition. Since the guy is in just about every still image and also most all of the animations it would be a massive undertaking. I can live with how it is.

On the blue pill, that might not be so difficult. If the mc is under the performance aspects of the blue pill it could simply extend his pre-orgasm time where it might be appropriate to do so in some scenes. The girl could then make a comment about his incredible stamina or something, maybe orgasm much harder? No additional rendering or animation would be required necessarily I don't think. To extend that, he could respond to a girls comment about round 2 which would require an extension to those scenes and those could be done 1 or 2 at a time or not at all in some cases.

One comment the mc makes in the bar kind of bugs me when he gets a girl a drink. I almost don't like clicking that but I have to. In the compliment dialog he says he has fallen for the girl which no girl on the island would believe that he has "fallen" for her. As another and the key option perhaps, he could say something a bit more believable and realistic like she is special and different or has unique qualities that set her apart from the other girls. They are, after all, all different. If he says he has fallen for the girl she could just call him a liar and fake and leave the scene like the second option does now. Just another trivial observation from the peanut gallery, LOL.

So, how much do I have to pay to get my sex scene with Lacey. I think I have some bucks saved up but the dentist may be getting a bunch of it come wednesday. Having Miriam(oh my lord) come up and interrupt us on the beach after we are all worked up, willing and ready was a dirty trick but I understand why it was done to stop the scene. Maybe we could sneak back out there when Miriam leaves and finish that. Every girl should have at least one interaction with the guy even if it is just finger work to relieve all that sexual tension she has built up. Its almost as bad as sperm congestion and could be dangerous to a girls emotional state, health and well being, LOL. It might also be a welcome response to all this boob teasing these girls are doing to our character and keeping him horned up all the time.

Speaking of jobs, I don't recall any oral or finger action from the guy on any girl so there's something to consider perhaps for some future scene. If they are in there somewhere I haven't encountered them yet.
 
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I really don't understand why anyone who dislikes sandbox games and wants to play VN's where you just read, click, click, read without thinking bothers to play this game and feels compelled to write a review without any content apart from basically saying that he/she doesn't like sandbox games. The "new" VN's where you just click anywhere on the screen to advance are so much more modern, I totally agree... :rolleyes: Oh, sorry I forgot that there might even be a choice every 10 minutes.
 

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Speaking of jobs, I don't recall any oral or finger action from the guy on any girl so there's something to consider perhaps for some future scene. If they are in there somewhere I haven't encountered them yet.
So what you're saying is you haven't beaten Jessica at Hotshots, right?
 
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hottarod

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Some people just lean to the negative side and it is easy to simply criticize. Unfortunately, the net is full of people like that critizizing everything and also disagreeing with everything. There is a psychology to it. By attempting to demean and criticize someone else or someone elses work it makes them artificially feel like they are superior. They need to go undertake to try and do something like this themselves. They don't have the ability to appreciate how difficult and time consuming work like this is.

How do I reference a member on here without putting the entire quoted thread in since we have already read it?
 
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Yeah I chose the muscle option and there was only 1 fit girl then the huge ripped girl, wish the other girls had similar body types that you chose, but I guess they have to redo all the animations for that?
Anyway, the game is great still not sure how to have sex with the lifeguard though
 

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I really don't understand why anyone who dislikes sandbox games and wants to play VN's where you just read, click, click, read without thinking bothers to play this game and feels compelled to write a review without any content apart from basically saying that he/she doesn't like sandbox games. The "new" VN's where you just click anywhere on the screen to advance are so much more modern, I totally agree... :rolleyes: Oh, sorry I forgot that there might even be a choice every 10 minutes.
Yeah, after reading the latest review/rating, it left me scratching my head also. Holiday Island is a totally different kind of game than the typical "new' genre of just click everywhere. But, I'm old and actually enjoy discovering the various nuances of a scene. Nothing against walkthroughs, as I have resorted to them after much trial and error, but if all you want is step-by-step instructions, why don't you just pay someone to play the game while you watch over their shoulder? That will leave both hands free to fap to your heart's content. Just my opinion.
 

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At least he gave 3 stars.
What baffles, are the comments about the the game mechanics belonging to early 2000. I played a rather broad genre of porn games and none of them feels remotely moderne and don't get me started with RPGM games with their 1980 UI.
As you said Darkhound1, I think some people are confused with sand box games but to think the gameplay of HI is antiquated is ridiculous.
 
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So what you're saying is you haven't beaten Jessica at Hotshots, right?
The green room pole dance, yeah I forgot about that bit. I was referring to taking it all the way though like as a warm up for the hot ta rod, LOL. My screen name is not actually a sexual innuendo. It was the nick name my grandpa gave me for pestering him all the time when he was doing mechanic work mostly on his Harley. He was from another country and had a fairly thick accent.
 
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How do I reference a member on here without putting the entire quoted thread in since we have already read it?
How exactly do you want to reference them? I'm sure you know you can quote and the insert a message, but if you just want to reference someone all you need do is put an @ sign before their name.
Example (@)Bantry would reference me. Remove the parentheses.
 

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At least he gave 3 stars.
What baffles, are the comments about the the game mechanics belonging to early 2000. I played a rather broad genre of porn games and none of them feels remotely moderne and don't get me started with RPGM games with their 1980 UI.
As you said Darkhound1, I think some people are confused with sand box games but to think the gameplay of HI is antiquated is ridiculous.
The other thing is the "review" says nothing about the game. It's so generic, you could just copy it and use it for any other game you don't like. It wouldn't fit any worse or better. For that reason alone it should be reported.
 
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Ever wondered where girls hang out between updates?
Very nice, but if you only had access to my balcony you could see so much more. Did you know I can actually fit 8+ girls on my balcony? Providing they don't mind some boob bumping and squishing. Still need to get Joy to approve the room expansion.
 
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