Ren'Py Holiday Island [v0.4.5.0] [darkhound1]

[Bantry]

Version 0.3.7 - development news (updated 25th of January 2023)

Hi guys and gals,​

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this post offers you a collection of news about the next version of Holiday Island (0.3.7).​

You can see the main focus and side areas for the next update in the above image.​

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The change log below is based on the release 0.3.6.0.​

As of right now, the update from 0.3.6.0 to 0.3.7.0 has:​

722 additional renders, videos or sound files​

69 backgrounds for the new phone​

472 updated renders​

New features and content

• Ivy gets a new night bar drink scene in her skimpy outfit --> will be part of 0.3.7.0
• Ivy gets a new night bar drink scene in her blue dress --> will be part of 0.3.7.0
• Ivy gets a new night bar drink scene in her basic outfit --> will be part of 0.3.7.0
• Amy's beach walk scene has been remade, enhanced and newly rendered in 2560x1440 --> will be part of 0.3.7.0
• Alice gets a new night bar drink scene in her sexy outfit --> will be part of 0.3.7.0
• Alice gets new renders and an update to her basic nightwear and skimpy night nightwear drink scenes --> will be part of 0.3.7.0
• Alice's arrival scene gets an update to the renders and the dialogue --> will be part of 0.3.7.0
• Faye gets an update to he drink scene at the bar when she wears her sexy outfit. It includes a story and four achievements --> will be part of 0.3.7.0
• Faye gets an update to he drink scene when she wears her skimpy outfit. It includes a story and an achievement --> will be part of 0.3.7.0
• Faye gets a new drink scene with two achievements at the bar on the red sofa wearing her basic evening dress --> will be part of 0.3.7.0
• Lacey's pool play scene has been remade with her updated character. This concludes her conversion.
• Yvette gets an update to the event where you catch her in her room having a shower --> will be part of 0.3.7.0
• Yvette gets a new shower scene with the MC in her room --> will be part of 0.3.7.0
• Yvette gets an update to her pool swim scene with some new extras and a posing scene --> will be part of 0.3.7.0
• Yumiko's last call scene at the night bar gets new images in high res and webp format --> will be part of 0.3.7.0
• Jessica's night swim renders at the pool have been upgraded to 2560x1440 using AI upscaling. Animation and dialogue have been improved too. --> will be part of 0.3.7.0
• Jessica gets a new arrival scene in high res with improved dialogue and additional images --> will be part of 0.3.7.0
• Alice private pole dance scene in the pink room has been rendered again in 2560x1440 webp format. New images and an animation have been added. The dialogue has been improved and partially rewritten. --> will be part of 0.3.7.0
• Alice gets an update to her sperm congestion scene at the doctor's office, which includes high res web images and three achievements --> will be part of 0.3.7.0
• Alice pole dance scene at the bar has been rendered again in 2560x1440 webp format. Some new images have been added and the dialogue has been remade from scratch --> will be part of 0.3.7.0
• Alice's "school girl" reward scene is updated to 2560x1440 webp format --> will be part of 0.3.7.0
• Faye gets a short wellness massage tease scene in her new sexy outffit --> will be part of 0.3.7.0
• Yvette gets a resolution upgradefor all her swimwear and reception sprites --> will be part of 0.3.7.0
• Faye, Heather and Renée get upgraded and additional wellness massage renders all with two cloth options --> will be part of 0.3.7.0
• As part of the linked scenes, Amy gets a couple of new achievements (green room and massage in her room) --> will be part of 0.3.7.0
• The UI gets an update to show previews and color coding when you hover your mouse over the action icons --> will be part of 0.3.7.0
• The Possibility to link scenes has been added --> will be part of 0.3.7.0
• Amy gets a short scene that makes it possible to links the night bar to her room or the player's room --> will be part of 0.3.7.0
• Amy gets an update to her pole dance scene in high res and with some additional images and two achievements --> will be part of 0.3.7.0
• Ivy's pool pose scene has been remade and extended --> will be part of 0.3.7.0
• Ivy gets a web search event posing for the Young & Fit magazine --> will be part of 0.3.7.0
• Amy gets a new event where she has sex with the player in the ladies room of the night bar (this partially reuses existing renders, mixed with new ones) --> will be part of 0.3.7.0
• Amy gets a new event where she has sex with the player in the green room in the night bar (this partially reuses existing renders, mixed with new ones) --> will be part of 0.3.7.0
• When some girls are horny and their love is high enough, they can initiate sex events --> will be part of 0.3.7.0
• The phone gets a major update with backgrounds to select, new icons and more cool stuff --> will be part of 0.3.7.0

Minor improvements and changes

• Ivy gets a personalized intro page with some background information --> will be part of 0.3.7.0
• Faye gets a short groping scene in her skimpy evening wear --> will be part of 0.3.7.0
• Amy gets a new web search for swimwear created after her High School time --> will be part of 0.3.7.0
• The file structure of rpy files has been changed. Now there are more files which are smaller --> will be part of 0.3.7.0
• Amy gets a new quest about an incident in her senior year at High School --> will be part of 0.3.7.0
• Faye's scene in the blue/green room gets some image and conversation updates --> will be part of 0.3.7.0
• Ivy gets a short scene when she gets a present wearing her sexy bikini --> will be part of 0.3.7.0
• Sara gets a short scene flashing her breasts in her pink evening dress --> will be part of 0.3.7.0
• Faye gets a short scene posing her butt in her skimpy evening wear --> will be part of 0.3.7.0
• Faye gets a replacement for her sexy evening outfit and all her evening sprites have been remade and emotions have been added --> will be part of 0.3.7.0
• Alice gets two new evening dresses and new high res sprites with emotions for all her evening outfits --> will be part of 0.3.7.0
• Icons and keyboard shortcuts for quick save and load have been added --> will be part of 0.3.7.0
• Jennifer's last call scene at the night bar gets new images in high res and webp format --> will be part of 0.3.7.0
• File structure and content for scenes, events and appointments have been cleaned up. A lot is under the hood, but will reduce time in the future. Some achievements have been converted to multi image and triggers and requirements have been added. --> will be part of 0.3.7.0
• Flashing breasts at the restaurant has been added to the special action achievements --> will be part of 0.3.7.0
• Menu choices are moved to the right of the scene, so that they are no longer blocking the view. They will also be nicer and smaller overall --> will be part of 0.3.7.0
• The text to speech for the AI voice can be switched off now in the preferences --> will be part of 0.3.7.0
• Amy gets emotions for her swimwear sprites, her night wear sprites and a resolution upgrade for all her actions --> will be part of 0.3.7.0
• Images for player actions (relax, jog, train) have been upgraded to double resolution webp format --> will be part of 0.3.7.0
• Company favor changes will be displayed on the left side now --> will be part of 0.3.7.0
• Sperm sample donation at the doctor will be done with the total quantity for each type now --> will be part of 0.3.7.0

Bug fixes

• In Yvette's pole dance scene, there was an inconsistency with the wardrobe and when she had a drink with you afterwards, image overlays were messed up --> will be fixed with 0.3.7.0
• In certain cases a girl's location could be shown as "restaurant", but she wasn't in the restaurant --> will be fixed with 0.3.7.0
• Groping a girl at the restaurant lead to blocking the grope action for other girls as well --> will be fixed with 0.3.7.0
• When you send a girl home who was the current doctor, she could roam the doctor's office as a ghost (invisible, but still talking to you) --> will be fixed with 0.3.7.0
• Deliza could show up twice as a nurse in the doctor's office --> will be fixed with 0.3.7.0
• After the message for the ankle check, Sara didn't show up at your room the next morning when you did more than 2 actions at the restaurant --> will be fixed with 0.3.7.0
• When you were not in your room when Sara picks you up for the ankle checkup, wrong overlay images were shown. In addition, the overlay UI on the right was shown --> will be fixed with 0.3.7.0

Is the update going to break save games?

0.3.7.0 --> Save games from 0.0.8 and later can still be used. Earlier saves are no longer supported.​

Estimated release dates:

0.3.7.0 --> pre beta testing will start the in the next day or two​

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[liupict02]

There should be intimate scenes when MC visits girls but he rather goes to their room just to say Hi. Photo studio is quite old fashioned. Why can't MC take girls' photos on phone? Girls should get more clothes instead of wearing just a few. Clothes, jewellery and accessories should be added to shopping so MC can gift them. 'Ask if they need any help', its useless to put there. MC's talking skill is very naive like "Aly I adore your figure! Would you tell me your breast size?" Even if the game is about a holiday on an island MC and girls seem like introvert and dull.

 

[Bantry]

 

[fevrer]

How improve the girl strengths?
Thank by advance

 

[junior366]

Natasha and Faye are the two queens of the biggest boobs with the most desirable figures, not even in the top five...
How is this possible??? I'm disappointed...
And news about Natasha's short quest line, not rich in scenes (but, in my opinion, the most mystical and interesting), has come to an end and will not develop, causing only sadness...

Well, when Natasha model has aged out, there's not a whole helluva lot you can do about it!!!! Hope the new one is boobsier?!? There's a thought!!!

 

[zapallbugs]

How improve the girl strengths?
Thank by advance

Training in the gym with them obviously. Read about it in the guide posted on page 1.

 

[DuckSwim]

Well, when Natasha model has aged out, there's not a whole helluva lot you can do about it!!!! Hope the new one is boobsier?!? There's a thought!!!

Speaking from experience black skin tend to get angry after a certain size.
(Though it is much less with the newer skin mix).

So even with the development towards better skin I find it unlikely Darkhound1 would go +size and thereby risk having a girl that had to be aged out again at some point in the future.

Thinking ahead
There are probably too many active girls (23, bit much for not being a full time job) so it makes sense to think this one step deeper into a retirement/renewal cycle.

Natasha will be retired (fact) and Brenda is not really viable (imo, but overwhelming proof for it).

So it would make sense for the busty newcomer to retire both the old black girls.
A +huge girl (niche) would be unlikely to manage that, but a busty core girl could do it easy.

Having done that trade, a White or Asian ultra (special) becomes a viable future choice.
Strikes me as an all together better deal.

No. of active girls will need to fall at some point and this way black would get a core girl and it'd queue up a ultra/special (for a future cycle).

Disclaimer : The first part is pretty sane, the second part is wild speculation.

 

[Evil13]

That's a shame about Brenda as she's one of my favourite, but I can understand if Darkhound can't really do much with her or knows where to take her. I would certainly hope that they keep the poolside grinding/teasing scene for another character, but yeah, I can understand the possibility of retiring her.

 

[Monsieur X]

That's a shame about Brenda as she's one of my favourite, but I can understand if Darkhound can't really do much with her or knows where to take her. I would certainly hope that they keep the poolside grinding/teasing scene for another character, but yeah, I can understand the possibility of retiring her.

All her contents will still be available I think.
I don't remember Darkhound speaking about contents removal for the "retired, end of story" girls.

 

[DuckSwim]

All her contents will still be available I think.
I don't remember Darkhound speaking about contents removal for the "retired, end of story" girls.

Correct.

All girls and all content they have stays.
A girl can be remade, completed, but not deleted.

 

[zapallbugs]

Correct.

All girls and all content they have stays.
A girl can be remade, completed, but not deleted.

Well, let's hope that technology will not make a deletion unavoidable in the future.

 

[MarsUltor]

A few observations on my part regarding Daz3D/Daz Studio and the (likely) future of some Holiday Island girls...

First, it is important to note that (if I understand correctly) DarkHound began this little project (with a production team of one, just Darkhound) about 6 years ago or so (or probably longer ago, if we consider initial development of the assets that comprised the first version of Holiday Island that was released into production). This is essentially ages ago in terms of computer tech. Think about the technological changes that have happened over the past 6-7 plus years.

Of course, Daz3D/Daz Studio (DS) is no exception. Genesis (G1) characters are ancient history and aren't really supported by the latest versions of DS. Genesis 2/V4 characters have only very limited support in current DS; Genesis 3 characters have more support and are still viable (but for how much longer?); Genesis 8 is the current character "mature" version, though Daz attempted to transition it to Genesis 8.1 (with only limited success), and is now in the process of replacing it with Genesis 9. The point of this little history discussion is that I believe (and please correct me if I am wrong) some of the early Holiday Island girls were originally created as G2F or V4 characters (though they may have since been converted to G3F) and later additions, I believe, were created in G3F (I don't know if the most recent additions -Daniela, Sara, and Mia- were created in G3F or G8F). Consequently, it is increasingly difficult or maybe impossible to create new content for some of the older girls, given the specifics and nuances of their original design.

This brings me to the topic of certain Holiday Island girls. It is my understanding that when Darkhound, and DuckSwim, and certain other OG posters here talk about an HI girl being "retired", they don't mean that she is going to be deleted from the game; what they seem to mean is that active development of new content or image upgrades for her is coming to an end. Players starting a new game would have all of a "retired" HI girl's existing content still available; there just wouldn't be any new content developed.

I apologize for dumping this text wall on everyone; it just seemed to me that there was some misunderstanding about what an HI girl being "retired" meant, and about why an HI girl might need to be "retired". Hopefully this was more clarifying than confusing.

 

[zapallbugs]

A few observations on my part regarding Daz3D/Daz Studio and the (likely) future of some Holiday Island girls...

First, it is important to note that (if I understand correctly) DarkHound began this little project (with a production team of one, just Darkhound) about 6 years ago or so (or probably longer ago, if we consider initial development of the assets that comprised the first version of Holiday Island that was released into production). This is essentially ages ago in terms of computer tech. Think about the technological changes that have happened over the past 6-7 plus years.

Of course, Daz3D/Daz Studio (DS) is no exception. Genesis (G1) characters are ancient history and aren't really supported by the latest versions of DS. Genesis 2/V4 characters have only very limited support in current DS; Genesis 3 characters have more support and are still viable (but for how much longer?); Genesis 8 is the current character "mature" version, though Daz attempted to transition it to Genesis 8.1 (with only limited success), and is now in the process of replacing it with Genesis 9. The point of this little history discussion is that I believe (and please correct me if I am wrong) some of the early Holiday Island girls were originally created as G2F or V4 characters (though they may have since been converted to G3F) and later additions, I believe, were created in G3F (I don't know if the most recent additions -Daniela, Sara, and Mia- were created in G3F or G8F). Consequently, it is increasingly difficult or maybe impossible to create new content for some of the older girls, given the specifics and nuances of their original design.

This brings me to the topic of certain Holiday Island girls. It is my understanding that when Darkhound, and DuckSwim, and certain other OG posters here talk about an HI girl being "retired", they don't mean that she is going to be deleted from the game; what they seem to mean is that active development of new content or image upgrades for her is coming to an end. Players starting a new game would have all of a "retired" HI girl's existing content still available; there just wouldn't be any new content developed.

I apologize for dumping this text wall on everyone; it just seemed to me that there was some misunderstanding about what an HI girl being "retired" meant, and about why an HI girl might need to be "retired". Hopefully this was more clarifying than confusing.

You were quite clear and insightful to me (not being a graphics guy). I understand the concept of retiring. But at some point existing legacy old pictures will no longer fit the current graphics. They will just look bad. At that point Darkhound will be faced with the choice of leaving in a sore in the eye, or really deleting them. And of course hoping by that time Darkhound will still be interested in the HI project.

 

[SarethEldair]

Natasha and Faye are the two queens of the biggest boobs with the most desirable figures, not even in the top five...
How is this possible??? I'm disappointed...
And news about Natasha's short quest line, not rich in scenes (but, in my opinion, the most mystical and interesting), has come to an end and will not develop, causing only sadness...

Totally agreed. Though Faye is not my fav, I prefer Aly. Nat is easily in my top3.

 

[SarethEldair]

I have to agree with this. Imo, Yvette and Amy get too much love and from my fav girls (Faye, Natasha, Aly, Alice, Heather and Jessica) only the last one is presented in that list. I'm not complaining though, I know tastes are different.

Your list shows you are a man of culture, sir.

 

[DuckSwim]

A few observations on my part regarding Daz3D/Daz Studio and the (likely) future of some Holiday Island girls...

First, it is important to note that (if I understand correctly) DarkHound began this little project (with a production team of one, just Darkhound) about 6 years ago or so (or probably longer ago, if we consider initial development of the assets that comprised the first version of Holiday Island that was released into production). This is essentially ages ago in terms of computer tech. Think about the technological changes that have happened over the past 6-7 plus years.

Of course, Daz3D/Daz Studio (DS) is no exception. Genesis (G1) characters are ancient history and aren't really supported by the latest versions of DS. Genesis 2/V4 characters have only very limited support in current DS; Genesis 3 characters have more support and are still viable (but for how much longer?); Genesis 8 is the current character "mature" version, though Daz attempted to transition it to Genesis 8.1 (with only limited success), and is now in the process of replacing it with Genesis 9. The point of this little history discussion is that I believe (and please correct me if I am wrong) some of the early Holiday Island girls were originally created as G2F or V4 characters (though they may have since been converted to G3F) and later additions, I believe, were created in G3F (I don't know if the most recent additions -Daniela, Sara, and Mia- were created in G3F or G8F). Consequently, it is increasingly difficult or maybe impossible to create new content for some of the older girls, given the specifics and nuances of their original design.

This brings me to the topic of certain Holiday Island girls. It is my understanding that when Darkhound, and DuckSwim, and certain other OG posters here talk about an HI girl being "retired", they don't mean that she is going to be deleted from the game; what they seem to mean is that active development of new content or image upgrades for her is coming to an end. Players starting a new game would have all of a "retired" HI girl's existing content still available; there just wouldn't be any new content developed.

I apologize for dumping this text wall on everyone; it just seemed to me that there was some misunderstanding about what an HI girl being "retired" meant, and about why an HI girl might need to be "retired". Hopefully this was more clarifying than confusing.

Think it is fine.

Retired is creator talk
Because that is what creators do. 'We' (General 'we', it is only Darkhound when it is the game) stop using a girl but are rarely "done" with her.

Bit like Cthulhu really, given enough time even that which "killed" her might "die" and she "revive" (usually in a new form)

Holiday Island will call it "Complete"
How do we know that? Well, look into the game\images\intro folder.
Yep, that overlay says complete.

So a retired girl will get a complete tag (and girls can/will be complete at some point)

Genesis 3
The game uses Genesis 3 (G3F).
Some are using much older assets though (Aly being the worst offender there).

There is no functional difference (beyond expressions) between G3F and G8F.
But you are dependent on G8F -> G3 conversions for outfits and hairs, little new is produced to G3F.

 

[SarethEldair]

Still dreaming to see Nat in the sunbed, and Aly IN the pool. We never got to see them that way.

 

[DuckSwim]

You were quite clear and insightful to me (not being a graphics guy). I understand the concept of retiring. But at some point existing legacy old pictures will no longer fit the current graphics. They will just look bad. At that point Darkhound will be faced with the choice of leaving in a sore in the eye, or really deleting them. And of course hoping by that time Darkhound will still be interested in the HI project.

AI upscaling will give it a lease of life, already is.
There are limits to it, of course.

I doubt it will become good enough to do crisp 4k from the older renders, so 2560x1440 is the most likely end point for a lot of things (the sheer mass of the Resort making it resistant to being rendered again and again).

 

[MarsUltor]

Genesis 3
The game uses Genesis 3 (G3F).
Some are using much older assets though (Aly being the worst offender there).

There is no functional difference (beyond expressions) between G3F and G8F.
But you are dependent on G8F -> G3 conversions for outfits and hairs, little new is produced to G3F.

I knew that Aly must have originated as a pre-G3F character, which is a pity because she is one of my favorites, but her potential for new content seems to be limited. I suspect the same is the case for Desire (another one of my favorites), and also Jessica (obviously also a favorite).

I agree that G3F and G8F are basically identical, with G8 having slightly better physiology manipulation and expression manipulation, IMO. I create characters in both, though I currently do about 70% G8F to 30% G3F (Haven't adopted G9 yet because there aren't enough available assets yet). G3 -> G8 conversion is pretty easy; G8 -> G3 conversion is a bit trickier, though there are installable DAZ assets that are tools to facilitate it.

Might just be me, but I read what is coming as Part 2.
So the hobby will have left the resort by the time x1440 has become obsolete (something that will take quite some time).

Given enough time there is nothing preventing Part 2 from being able to stand alone.
(Should Darkhound1 still want this as a hobby of course).

I think this is a great way to look at it. IMO, the current location/configuration hasn't quite run its course yet, but it will.

The way I look at it, there are basically two types of content: "plot content" and "color content". The game obviously has lots of color content (and gets more with every update), but contrary to the opinion of some, the game is also obviously about more than just oogling, groping, seducing, and getting some "rumpy pumpy" (thanks, SiJa) with Island girls. As I know you are very well aware, it is also a story with a plot that deals with the gentech operations of HI, Inc. and with the reason the MC is on the island. I suspect that we are somewhere in the middle of the plot, and that there are interesting plot twists to come, which will be contained in future content that will very likely transcend the current island.

Maybe Joy will sell the current island and buy a new-and-improved one (complete with new wonders and surprises), making a move necessary.

I guess we'll just have to wait and see...

 

[Blatanikov]

I used to like this game but I abandoned it because I found it repetitive, I see that it has not been updated for a long time, is the development still active?