Ren'Py Holiday Island [v0.4.5.1] [darkhound1]

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darkhound1 said:
Additional clothes doesn't have to do anything with "difficult" at all. It's not difficult, but it's a huge time eater and it's super boring to create as well. Every image in the game has to be rendered, the game doesn't have a 3D engine, it only shows pictures or animations. Adding only one swimwear for Yvette would mean hundreds of additional renders which means a huge time consumption and very little benefit for the player, just repeating existing things over and over again with other clothes.
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I can see where the guy is coming from and in a perfect world, yadda yadda yadda. But obviously the day only has 24 hours so adding thousands of hours of render time for a single piece of clothing is just not going to happen. I think you found a good middle ground by giving the girls special things to wear SOMETIMES. Like for example Faye's special outfit for the posing at the beach in the evening. I am hoping for more "customization" of this sort in the future since, well, seeing the same swimsuit day in and day out does get a bit bland every now and again. In this same vein I think it'd be cool if the girls had different hairstyles for some occations, like when Yvette's hair has a different colour in her HotShots scene, or wore a different type of make-up. And maybe, as an upgrade to this formula, the player could choose between some outfits for those special occassions in which the amount of images is limited by the event.

Edit: Another question while I am it if I may? In a very general way, how difficult / time-consuming is it to add a new girl in a very basic manner, i.e. of the Lacey sort and not of the Yvette sort?
 
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bobthebuilder223 said:
Another question while I am it if I may? In a very general way, how difficult / time-consuming is it to add a new girl in a very basic manner, i.e. of the Lacey sort and not of the Yvette sort?
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  • Lacey has 76 sprite images just to be able to use her in the game at all. With just that, you cannot do anything with her.
  • Lacey has 100 images in the scenes folder
  • Lacey has 7 poker images
  • Lacey has 10 images in the event folder
  • Lacey has 3 intro images (plane girl)
  • Lacey has 7 sexting images
  • Lacey has phone and dream images too
So all in all you're looking at more than 200 images just to be able to do basic stuff with the girl.

Then there is the creation time for a new girl, which includes:
  • Body modeling
  • Face modeling
  • Hair style and hair color
  • Body skin/texture selection
  • Creating a blueprint for her personality, including likes/dislikes, stuff like that
  • Family history, upbringing, job, life before island, etc.
  • Selection of 3 x swimwear and 3 x night wear that fits her and her character
Creating a new girl can easily take 30 hours+ or much longer even
Creating 200 renders - well let's just assume 10 to 20 min minutes per render, which is not even long. So an average of 15 minutes.
We're at 30 hours + 50 hours already and there is not a single line of code or dialogue for her yet.
To get that will easily be another 50 hours, probably more.
So we're looking at something like 130 hours of time.
At 10 to 20 hours a week, that's like 9 weeks of work.
 
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darkhound1 said:
  • Lacey has 76 sprite images just to be able to use her in the game at all. With just that, you cannot do anything with her.
  • Lacey has 100 images in the scenes folder
  • Lacey has 7 poker images
  • Lacey has 10 images in the event folder
  • Lacey has 3 intro images (plane girl)
  • Lacey has 7 sexting images
  • Lacey has phone and dream images too
So all in all you're looking at more than 200 images just to be able to do basic stuff with the girl.

Then there is the creation time for a new girl, which includes:
  • Body modeling
  • Face modeling
  • Hair style and hair color
  • Body skin/texture selection
  • Creating a blueprint for her personality, including likes/dislikes, stuff like that
  • Family history, upbringing, job, life before island, etc.
  • Selection of 3 x swimwear and 3 x night wear that fits her and her character
Creating a new girl can easily take 30 hours+ or much longer even
Creating 200 renders - well let's just assume 10 to 20 min minutes per render, which is not even long. So an average of 15 minutes.
We're at 30 hours + 50 hours already and there is not a single line of code or dialogue for her yet.
To get that will easily be another 50 hours, probably more.
So we're looking at something like 130 hours of time.
At 10 to 20 hours a week, that's like 9 weeks of work.
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If you have that kind of spare time ( :ROFLMAO: just joking) please skip a new girl and do the boat trip. Or anything else you care to think up in the lab maybe.
 
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zapallbugs said:
If you have that kind of spare time ( :ROFLMAO: just joking) please skip a new girl and do the boat trip. Or anything else you care to think up in the lab maybe.
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I have been patiently waiting since June 2019 for a sail boat trip with a special guest.
I still have hopes that someday it will arrive...or should that be set sail :unsure:

:LOL:;)
 
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SiJa said:
I have been patiently waiting since June 2019 for a sail boat trip with a special guest.
I still have hopes that someday it will arrive...or should that be set sail :unsure:

:LOL:;)
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I personally have been waiting for Beach Volleyball and Strip Twister for as long as it's been hinted at in the game, if I get it....Great!!! If not, it's still a Helluva game!!!
 
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junior366 said:
I personally have been waiting for Beach Volleyball and Strip Twister for as long as it's been hinted at in the game, if I get it....Great!!! If not, it's still a Helluva game!!!
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I see a Patreon vote coming up for what you would like in the game:
A) Boat Trip
B) Beach Volleyball
C) Strip Twister
D) The Double with Alice and Amy
E) doesn't matter really
 
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darkhound1 said:
What is not intuitive by having additinal information for each event/scene/appointment and just having to click on it to see the pictures?
Page up and page down? You can use the scroll bar or the mouse wheel to scroll up and down.
A gallery in the main menu would be a huge step back and is definitely not going to happen.
The game will not have replays for scenes and stuff that you can easily get by simply playing them again (not because it's not possible or difficult, but because it doesn't make much sense and destroys immersion - it's by design that it is like that). It's a sandbox game and not a VN where you can see most of everything only once.

Additional clothes doesn't have to do anything with "difficult" at all. It's not difficult, but it's a huge time eater and it's super boring to create as well. Every image in the game has to be rendered, the game doesn't have a 3D engine, it only shows pictures or animations. Adding only one swimwear for Yvette would mean hundreds of additional renders which means a huge time consumption and very little benefit for the player, just repeating existing things over and over again with other clothes.
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I saw your comment talking about up to 130 hours to create a new character, until I got scared I thought it was much easier (I'm new in this type games do not understand much so my questions are a little silly) and also the delay of work to add new clothes, really is something tedious. About the gallery I did not know the difference between VN and sandbox games. As I mentioned, I'm new to it.
This game is very good! I love it, I hope my suggestions are not taken as critical, it was just lack of knowledge in the subject.
 
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zapallbugs said:
I see a Patreon vote coming up for what you would like in the game:
A) Boat Trip
B) Beach Volleyball
C) Strip Twister
D) The Double with Alice and Amy
E) doesn't matter really
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I see a lot of votes for D, although I could see A having the same results!
 
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Using letters as voting options confuses me.
When I hear A, B, C and so on I think of something ... else :unsure:

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And they go a bit like this,

(A)bsolutely abysmal
(B)arely there
(C)ompact Classic
(D)ouble, if you please
(E)xemplary examples of excess
(F)uuuuuck, Yeah! attached
(G)ood? Great? Globes!
(H)ooters, capital H baby!
(I)mpressive, and Inspirational
(J)uggernaughts, of Just, Juicy, Justice!
(K)ollossal Klassics, with a K
(L)uscious Lunars, Landing Zone too!
(M)artian mega melons, mmmmmmmmm

:p
 
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DuckSwim said:
Using letters as voting options confuses me.
When I hear A, B, C and so on I think of something ... else :unsure:

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And they go a bit like this,

(A)bsolutely abysmal
(B)arely there
(C)ompact Classic
(D)ouble, if you please
(E)xemplary examples of excess
(F)uuuuuck, Yeah! attached
(G)ood? Great? Globes!
(H)ooters, capital H baby!
(I)mpressive, and Inspirational
(J)uggernaughts, of Just, Juicy, Justice!
(K)ollossal Klassics, with a K
(L)uscious Lunars, Landing Zone too!
(M)artian mega melons, mmmmmmmmm

:p
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So that's what the letters stand for!
 
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DuckSwim said:
Using letters as voting options confuses me.
When I hear A, B, C and so on I think of something ... else :unsure:

View attachment 970204

And they go a bit like this,

(A)bsolutely abysmal
(B)arely there
(C)ompact Classic
(D)ouble, if you please
(E)xemplary examples of excess
(F)uuuuuck, Yeah! attached
(G)ood? Great? Globes!
(H)ooters, capital H baby!
(I)mpressive, and Inspirational
(J)uggernaughts, of Just, Juicy, Justice!
(K)ollossal Klassics, with a K
(L)uscious Lunars, Landing Zone too!
(M)artian mega melons, mmmmmmmmm

:p
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So like Tire ratings, do we skip a few letters and just go to -
(U)dders?
 
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