DerJohannes

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This Game has been in development for over 5 years, how far is it in regards of completion? i know it has tons of content for most Characters but i am not sure if the Developer has made a statement how much content he actually made, like is it 50% completed or is it less? or maybe more? does anyone know if there is such a statement or how far the game already is in its development?
 

Galvi

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This Game has been in development for over 5 years, how far is it in regards of completion? i know it has tons of content for most Characters but i am not sure if the Developer has made a statement how much content he actually made, like is it 50% completed or is it less? or maybe more? does anyone know if there is such a statement or how far the game already is in its development?
Think of this as if it was Star Citizen: a game in continuous development that adds new features and content for the people to enjoy that, even if the "main story" gets to an end, the game itself will never finish and new content could be added
 
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Think of this as if it was Star Citizen: a game in continuous development that adds new features and content for the people to enjoy that, even if the "main story" gets to an end, the game itself will never finish and new content could be added
By and large yes.

It is a hobby project done for fun which simply happens to source its output (renders) to a game.
The game is just a container that provides a format and an environment for the art.

In a way the actual game is a small "Darkhound universe", in which Holiday Island "the game" happens to dwell.

The "main story" is therefore a spot on example (imo), whether the "main story" of the game has ended is not important to the hobby driving it, As long as the hobby exists renders will be produced and go somewhere "Darkhound"
 
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I see this game in a Twilight Zone light. The MC gets there believing it will be only for an allotted time. Not knowing that he has been there for months longer, maybe years longer than the contract that he signed. The company is taking care of his life in the normal world. Maybe an installed gorgeous female temp employee is doing his job. He has lost all track of time while chasing the girls and waiting to judge his next contest. Why remove him while the experiment is making him happy? He also has not come upon the graveyard of past MCs........another job that Eduardo the gardener takes care of.
 

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By and large yes.

It is a hobby project done for fun which simply happens to source its output (renders) to a game.
The game is just a container that provides a format and an environment for the art.

In a way the actual game is a small "Darkhound universe", in which Holiday Island "the game" happens to dwell.

The "main story" is therefore a spot on example (imo), whether the "main story" of the game has ended is not important to the hobby driving it, As long as the hobby exists renders will be produced and go somewhere "Darkhound"
This is an EXTREMELY accurate way to put it, and to me it's both a feature and sort of a bug: a feature because first and foremost, we have a creator doing what he enjoys best at his own pace and according to his own taste, which is always great; sort a bug though (to me at least) because I think that the game would greatly benefit from some focus on a little more structured narrative, gradually becoming less then just a showcase of great renders, and more like an actual story.
With that said, I'm still perfectly happy with the state it exists as right now, I'm just rambling. :)
 

ManoftheCulture

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Hi, everyone. I need some word of advice. Is it possible to unlock Heather/Jessica beach scene through reloading? I've read the requirements for this scene and I think, I've done everything right. There are Heather/Jess and MC on the beach. I've done their separate walking/posing beach scenes. I chose the right dialogue options. Their stats are max. But I reloaded tons of times, but there was no scene. Is every load random or it's just determined that in this specific moment I got unlucky and I need to meet them on the same conditions but next time?
 

DerJohannes

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This is an EXTREMELY accurate way to put it, and to me it's both a feature and sort of a bug: a feature because first and foremost, we have a creator doing what he enjoys best at his own pace and according to his own taste, which is always great; sort a bug though (to me at least) because I think that the game would greatly benefit from some focus on a little more structured narrative, gradually becoming less then just a showcase of great renders, and more like an actual story.
With that said, I'm still perfectly happy with the state it exists as right now, I'm just rambling. :)
Yes thats what i was thinking as well and also why i asked in the first place, i played the game a few times already and i enjoyed it most of the time, its just that i most of the time reach a point where i found most if not all renders and events and then stop playing but im not sure if every update is worth coming back and would love to see something like a story update that introduces new locations and characters and he also hinted at some point that he is working on something on that regard, i just hope it doesnt take that long to have enough content for all characters, my personal wish would be that he "finishes" most characters who have only a few scenes to get them to a point where some characters like Heather are and then introduce new characters but that said im still going to look forward to new updates and hope the game will reach a point we could call finished while the Dev still provides new extras in form of girls, renders and events
 

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Hi, everyone. I need some word of advice. Is it possible to unlock Heather/Jessica beach scene through reloading? I've read the requirements for this scene and I think, I've done everything right. There are Heather/Jess and MC on the beach. I've done their separate walking/posing beach scenes. I chose the right dialogue options. Their stats are max. But I reloaded tons of times, but there was no scene. Is every load random or it's just determined that in this specific moment I got unlucky and I need to meet them on the same conditions but next time?
You can reload multiple times and often that will get you the results you seek, however as one of the definitions of insanity is to keep repeating the same action(s) and hoping for a different result, you might consider changing some variables. No guarantee it work, especially since I have zero clue as to how the behind scenes 'Flow Logic' occurs, but sometimes the day of the week and time of day matter.

What I mean is, if you have a save on say a Tuesday morning and continue to reload said save hoping for a different result and you never get the result you want, try on a different day at a different time. The stats don't always have to be maxed, you can try stat levels of say 90%. Is Jessica and/or Heather busy with another job? i.e. if Jessica is the maid, she'll never be on the beach until afternoon thus missing any morning occurrence of her and Heather both being available.

To me, Holiday Island is like a giant puzzle and although frustrating at times, the solution is there. Finding it is half the fun, but again that's just my opinion.
 

ManoftheCulture

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You can reload multiple times and often that will get you the results you seek, however as one of the definitions of insanity is to keep repeating the same action(s) and hoping for a different result, you might consider changing some variables. No guarantee it work, especially since I have zero clue as to how the behind scenes 'Flow Logic' occurs, but sometimes the day of the week and time of day matter.

What I mean is, if you have a save on say a Tuesday morning and continue to reload said save hoping for a different result and you never get the result you want, try on a different day at a different time. The stats don't always have to be maxed, you can try stat levels of say 90%. Is Jessica and/or Heather busy with another job? i.e. if Jessica is the maid, she'll never be on the beach until afternoon thus missing any morning occurrence of her and Heather both being available.

To me, Holiday Island is like a giant puzzle and although frustrating at times, the solution is there. Finding it is half the fun, but again that's just my opinion.
Big thanks for the detailed answer. (y)(y)(y). I'll try another time another day.
 
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Hi, everyone. I need some word of advice. Is it possible to unlock Heather/Jessica beach scene through reloading? I've read the requirements for this scene and I think, I've done everything right. There are Heather/Jess and MC on the beach. I've done their separate walking/posing beach scenes. I chose the right dialogue options. Their stats are max. But I reloaded tons of times, but there was no scene. Is every load random or it's just determined that in this specific moment I got unlucky and I need to meet them on the same conditions but next time?
Once you have all requierments, you can practically achieve the scene, when Jessica/Heather are on the Beach and you go on a walk with Heather,(picking the right options that is) no need to save is a repeatable scene
 

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This is an EXTREMELY accurate way to put it, and to me it's both a feature and sort of a bug: a feature because first and foremost, we have a creator doing what he enjoys best at his own pace and according to his own taste, which is always great; sort a bug though (to me at least) because I think that the game would greatly benefit from some focus on a little more structured narrative, gradually becoming less then just a showcase of great renders, and more like an actual story.
With that said, I'm still perfectly happy with the state it exists as right now, I'm just rambling. :)
Imo the "bug" is not inherent to the feature.
It is an (unforseen) faultline of older times.

The challenge is that parts of its orignal design runs counter to the universe it inhabits.

To start its resort loop a lot of "game" girls were added for game reasons (ex. enough girls to start the island).
Essentially an initial phase.

This phase was complicated by a design choice which turned out to be very expensive (outfits, girls get the same base content) and the fact that since the girls (and the resort loop) does not end, the content requirement of the initital design becomes infinite.

So no matter how much the hobby project produced, more would always be needed, one gym, becomes many, same for hotshots or any other thing, the Resort multiplication is so large as to become infinite compared to production.

To (fully) address this would require the resort, loop and its girls to end (or step aside).
Assume a secondary role while the game moved outside the resort.

Doing would allow the hobby to introduce (and end) "Darkhound" girls, locations and story as it wishes (which would be the natural state of things) and not due to old design legacies.

While it would never be a structured "game" narrative ( in any case an alien concept to the way the hobby works) it would very much be a "Darkhound narrative", which is as close as it get.

Note.
I just observe and note what is needed to apply for a given theoretical change to occur.
Personally I am fine whatever Darkhound chooses to do (or not do), he has my full support either way.

Edit.
Worth noting is that for some releases now there is a clear pattern of addressing the old (Staff, Remakes, General Redesign).
 
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Trying to recreate myself a more muscular Alice through AI art while waiting for the next update :unsure:


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If SugarTits (Amy) sees Alice looking like this, she's likely to experience some jealousy toward her step-sibling, because, while SugarTits is undeniably very strong, she's also undeniably *not* as buff as this...

Also, if norb happens to see her like this, one of his heads is likely to explode... ;)
 
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