Ren'Py Holiday Island [v0.4.5.1] [darkhound1]

[Bantry]

so ive been trying to play this game but im getting this after the airplace scene.

Another one that cannot read. Your attached pic is worthless as it doesn't provide the entire error report. However, if you bothered to read it, you would see at the bottom where it says, you are trying to play version 0.1.3.2 instead of 0.1.3.3. In simplest language, you didn't install the game and its updates correctly.

Now you have two options.
1) Go back and read the install instructions and follow them completely.
2)Wait until tomorrow, 1/16 when version 0.1.4.0 will be released.

 

[DuckSwim]

@duckswimming
I though I explained it better what I am trying to do.
What I am thinking about is not a drastic change. It will still use most of the old code in the background.

I have read it again and you did explain it,
- What I have in mind is to kinda keep the old system in the background & Keep the values as they are now in the background

Cannot really be misunderstood, but well ... guess I managed that anyway
So I'd like to thank you for taking the time to clear it up.

Given the current is more inconsistent than is wished for, extending a framework over/on it, sounds like a good idea.

The explanation post offers a very clear and solid idea (as always) on the execution you intend of the framework and there have been thought a lot of things into it (code reuse, better linking, changes can be done in one place, in addition to the benefits of improve the player experience of the game).

Given the game is large and from the looks of it will be much larger still, getting a better framework in that uses and modifies the old basis and allows more, sounds like a good investment.

Pleased to hear that the anger parts (of my wall of text) might be of some use

 

[Bantry]

Some interesting ideas put forth by various members with regards to stats, emotions, etc. Thank you @darkhound1 for sharing your thoughts and visions as to where the game may be headed. I'm going to wait until 0.1.4.0 is released and I experience the new play room and other new things within the update before commenting.

 

[jikorde]

• Change the anger attribute into more of an anger/jealousy attribute. This will give additional options. E.g. if three girls are at the pool and you pick one to swim with her. The other 2 "remember" they were not picked. If a girl isn't picked xx times, she gets angry/jealous. Once you pick her, it will be reset. The level could be different for each girl. E.g. Yvette doesn't get angry/jealous so easy. She is not the type. While Eva will do so quite fast.

I don't think that would be an enjoyable change. That just sounds like an extra layer of busy work in keeping the island happy and balanced over the already existing stuff. If you did it for contests(which level of love should contests stop boosting love at in the new system? 4?) maybe it could work as part of the bigger event thing, but you do a bunch of things everyday. Having jealousy on top of how many things you do is just an extra thing to track that kind of dictates which girls you need to prioritize through any given day.

In your example, I would end up shipping Eve off the island as soon as possible to not deal with her constant jealousy, because I don't want to track it and I need to interact with other girls to raise their stats. Or I would just leave when I see her waiting in a location with other girls so that I don't raise more jealousy points.

I just don't think it sounds like a positive addition.

 

[Puppet Master]

A level 3 Hack might track the jealousy for you. I suggested that the outline of the girl's pic would change from black to red if she needed attention (hugging & kissing) or her love and affection would go down.
How about if she was jealous, then the outline would turn green? Then there would be a warning so you'd know to not have her around when you're kissing other girls.
Also, if she starts to get jealous, she could leave on her own. Then you could kiss the other girls while she was away.

 

[Puppet Master]

This may not fit in with Darkhound1's changes to the stat system, but Looks could affect how much Lust a girl receives when kissed, say Looks + Charm.

 

[titmanassguy]

I'm going crazy here. I can't get the sex on the beach with Heather and Jessica and I do everything right.

Both Jessica and Hather are on the beach with no one else.
30 minutes later they are still alone on the beach.
They are wearing skimpy bikinis.
All stats are max except anger (which is 0).
I walk with Heather, stare at her cleavage, compliment her and she poses for me.
I pick the two choices multiple times but neither work.

What am I doing wrong? It is the only scene for those two girls I didn't see yet.

The only thing I find strange is that when I walk with Jessica, I don't have choices to look at her cleavage or sneak peek at it. The whole walk is a single talk without choices.

Had the same issues as you, finally got it to setup with Heather on the beach and not Jessica, but Jessica was there 30 mins later and it worked. Not sure of that's needed for it to work, but that's how I got it to work

 

[jikorde]

A level 3 Hack might track the jealousy for you. I suggested that the outline of the girl's pic would change from black to red if she needed attention (hugging & kissing) or her love and affection would go down.
How about if she was jealous, then the outline would turn green? Then there would be a warning so you'd know to not have her around when you're kissing other girls.
Also, if she starts to get jealous, she could leave on her own. Then you could kiss the other girls while she was away.

None of this fixes my issue with such a system. The fact that it is dictating how I play and punishing me if I don't follow the rules bothers me. Right now the rule is a simple interact with everyone once a day or their stuff falls. That's simple, doesn't require to much tracking, and its easy to repair since anger isn't a factor. Once you add anger into this you are requiring HI, which you already don't get enough of, to fix your mistakes because you are not playing how the game wants you to play.

The images turning colors would work if/when the system is added to a degree. But then as I said, I'll just start avoiding the girl outright or be forced to interact with her, which yes isn't a huge deal. But its forcing me to play the game a certain way, which is my issue. I guess it would depend on the number of interactions that trigger it, as any single digit number would feel far to low, and honestly jealousy shouldn't even be a thing until the girl has actual numbers in love/affection. Having a girl without any love feel jealous because someone she doesn't really care for isn't paying attention to her is silly, and really petty.

 

[Bantry]

NOTICE NOTICE NOTICE NOTICE NOTICE

In a few short hours 0.1.4.0 will be released. Now to each their own and this is NOT required, but you might want to consider doing a clean install.

First off, via File Explorer, find the folder where you have Holiday Island 0.1.3.3 installed. Within that folder will be a folder named 'game'. Within that folder will be a folder named 'saves'. Copy that folder and save it some where else where you can find it again. I copy and save mine to another hard drive, but your desktop, a USB stick, A floppy disc, doesn't matter as long as you know where it is and as long as it is separate and you can find it again. Now you can delete the folder Holiday Island 0.1.3.3.

Now using File Explorer again, look on your 'C' drive (usually the main hard drive) and find the folder 'User'. Within that folder will be a folder with your name. Within that folder will be a folder named 'AppData'. This is usually a hidden folder so you might have to turn on Hidden Files/Folders. Google or use Windows Help to learn how to do this if you don't know. Now within the 'AppData' folder will be a folder named 'Roaming' and within that one will be a folder named 'RenPy'. Lastly within "RenPy' will be a folder named 'Island - #########'. Your numbers may be different than mine. Delete that folder.

Congratulations, you are now ready to do a clean install of Holiday Island 0.1.4.0. Follow the install instructions and then copy your 'saves' folder that you originally saved into the 'game' folder of the new install and you are ready to go!

 

[Cicero72]

The recent discussions on game development have been impressive. I tried this game a few times but had trouble developing a connection with the characters. The grind would overtake my interest. I was impressed to hear that more VN like story qualities would be added to an already impressive sandbox game.

There was some talk about the anger stat. I suggest substituting jealousy entirely. As I see it, anger only serves as a barrier. Players will work hard to avoid it. Not really a selling point. Jealousy could serve as a barrier, but also provide other positive creative opportunities.

Finally I'm a big fan of penetrative vaginal sex. Never seem to get bored of it. Voyerism and other forms of sex are appetizers. I haven't played for awhile and I know this game has vaginal sex, but I'll go out on a limb and suggest that it's a low percentage against other sexy-time activities. Assuming this is the case, I'll suggest an increase.

 

[Bantry]

Finally I'm a big fan of penetrative vaginal sex. Never seem to get bored of it. Voyeurism and other forms of sex are appetizers. I haven't played for awhile and I know this game has vaginal sex, but I'll go out on a limb and suggest that it's a low percentage against other sexy-time activities. Assuming this is the case, I'll suggest an increase.

Interesting thoughts on jealousy vs. anger which I agree with. You might be surprised as to how much vaginal sex is in the game if you haven't played in awhile. There are now 15 girls on the island not counting the help or other support characters. You can sleep or have vaginal sex with almost half of them. That count may change with tomorrow's update. I would also suggest downloading and installing the approved mod which can really help reduce the grind and it offers great hints on how to complete all the scenes, events, appointments, etc.

 

[jikorde]

Finally I'm a big fan of penetrative vaginal sex. Never seem to get bored of it. Voyerism and other forms of sex are appetizers. I haven't played for awhile and I know this game has vaginal sex, but I'll go out on a limb and suggest that it's a low percentage against other sexy-time activities. Assuming this is the case, I'll suggest an increase.

So I enjoy tracking these kinds of things for games at complete random. There is currently 20~ vaginal scenes in the game. Counting every non penetrative sex scene, we get 33~, though I am counting a few scenes in both groups and some scenes twice because the girls share them. So not a low percentage. Foreplay is winning out, which for me at least is a plus as I actually enjoy that more in general as it feels like you can get more creative.

This is only counting actual sex scenes and not sexts or scenes where the girl gets naked and then leaves, like poker. There's far to much of that.

 

[Ramirez™]

NOTICE NOTICE NOTICE NOTICE NOTICE

......A floppy disc, QUOTE]
You know you are getting old when you know what a floppy is. Especially a 5¼ inch.

 

[partanen]

There's cure for that nowadays, you should know it: Those little blue pills heal that floppiness temporarily...

 

[Bantry]

True, true. I would have said burn it to a disc, but that raises the whole discussion of what format. DVD, DVDR, Blu-Ray, CD, CDR, etc.

 

[Bantry]

You know somewhere in the world it is 16/01/19. Not complaining or anything, just pointing that little tidbit of information out.

 

[partanen]

True, true. I would have said burn it to a disc, but that raises the whole discussion of what format. DVD, DVDR, Blu-Ray, CD, CDR, etc.

And then you'd tell them too that burning to CD doesn't mean or include actual use of fire...

 

[Bantry]

And we're waiting ...

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[TheGR8STNoob]

I am unable to get past the very very first flight scene where it says something about character schedules. it immediately gives the white screen with all the commands. :/ help?

 

[lm1030]

getting this error???