ZenArcas

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So... does anyone intend to make an updated guide mod? Cause the game is an unplayable chore without one. Not only are they absolutely random but a lot of them have some seriously specific requirements. I'm not gonna try to smash a pinata suspended 50 feet in the air while in a pitch black football stadium.

Please tell me the dev has actually implemented a guide and that's why everyone's facepalming. Cause if someone actually thinks I'm wrong otherwise. Do guide me, great ones.
 
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So... does anyone intend to make an updated guide mod? Cause the game is an unplayable chore without one. Not only are they absolutely random but a lot of them have some seriously specific requirements. I'm not gonna try to smash a pinata suspended 50 feet in the air while in a pitch black football stadium.

Please tell me the dev has actually implemented a guide and that's why everyone's facepalming. Cause if someone actually thinks I'm wrong otherwise. Do guide me, great ones.
You need to checkout Puppet Master's FAQ. It is linked in his signature and has been updated and posted numerous times throughout this thread. Although it is text based only it has numerous step-by-step instructions to accomplish all the achievement.
 

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I added some things to the FAQ (SPOILERS!):

21) Why does a girl's anger go up? How can I reduce a girl's anger? Why do the girls sometimes lose their affection and love? How do I stop a girl from losing affection and love? Why do the girls lose lust all of the time? How do from happening?
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30) How do I masturbate? I just started the game, and the only girl I can masturbate to is the girl who was on the plane. How do I get to masturbate to all the other hot girls? How do I take a sample for the doctor? How come I sometimes don't get a sample? How come sometimes I can't masturbate? Why does my endurance go down after I masturbate? How much does it go down? Why does it go back up? How do I get sperm congestion and how do I get rid of it?
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question to your Q#15 - training:
if I'm understand correctly ... requirements for increase of strength goes up ... so when I'm level 9 and want to go to 10 I need
to hit the gym 12 times for a week (than i can keep level 10 by doing it once) ... so I need for example train each day + massage+5times doing it twice a day. Thats correct?
Also whats the numbers for increasing hacking/sneak, charm and looks(there are only 5 levels)
How much beauty cream do i need to use per week to increase my look from lvl 2 to 3, or 4 to 5? Is there a difference? Does it matter if I use beauty cream 5-7 times in a row during one day ... or i need to do like each day once?
Also how much do i need to train endurance to go from max 50 to max 100. Is there one number or its also increase (more max. endurance - more workout to increase?)
 
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Soooo this is nothing more than a minor technicality or a trivial detail but in weight lifting you do numbers of reps. Each group of reps is a set. You then generally do multiple sets of reps(repititions). Between each set you pause and rest for a minute or so to re-oxygenate, let fresh blood flow into the muscles and to let them rest and cool down a bit. I competed as a power lifter(all natural and tested) for several years so I'm not just blowing smoke rings around. Calling reps sets is no big deal and I don't even know why I mentioned it actually except that it is my nature, LOL. It is not even up to the level of being invited to someone's room and they show up at your room. With Jennie spotting dude is repping out around 225 which is not bad for a skinny guy with no arms. He needs more muscle size in the arms. Maybe shoulders, chest and back too. He could rep out 315(6 45 pound plates plus the bar) if he had that.

A bit more work for the game developer and it doesn't really affect the program but I would like my weight lifter to also be able to do pull ups and pec's . Leg work would also be appropriate like the leg press. I could do 1 solid knees to the chest leg press with no arm cheating for 1000 pounds when I was power lift training . 75 degree(I think) leg press. That converted into a max with belt and wraps of 550 on the squat. I had 3 spotters and of course used the best belt and knee wraps you could get(John Inzer stuff). Even years later my back and knees are still in good condition after all that. Building up to those weights over a decent period of time increases bone density and also attaching ligament and tendon strength.

I pointed out to a very famous and huge game company once that you usually always mount your horse from the left side. They were doing it on which ever side was convenient. There were and maybe still are "trick" riders who could leap on their horse without using trhe stirrups so either side works on those and I've seen movies where the rider lept up on the horse from the back even. There is a really good reason why you mount your horse on the left side. It has to do with the direction that the saddle cinch strap, bridles and so forth are latched on the horse. They are set up to favor mounting on the left. In ancient times swordsmen were predominantly right handed(same as now) and they wore their swords across the belt for draw. That means the sword actually canted down on the swordsman's left side so he could cross draw with his right hand. Mounting the horse on the left made it much easier to mount and kept the sword's sheath out of the way and that is where it all came from. The horse gets used to this so you still have to train it that it is ok to monkey around with the horse on the right side. Otherwise they can get really skiddish about the "off side". I am a left handed and right brain dominant person in a mostly right handed world. Thats my excuse anyway, LOL.

I do this. I'm sorry. I also have this compulsion about phrases like sick as a dog and its a doozey, the whole 9 yards. I have to go research these things and find out where they came from. It is often very surprising and a pretty cool way to learn some history.

Nothing much to see here, feel free to move along.
 
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Still looking for walktrough maybe a nice someone can share walktrough 1.8.0
Try this.

https://attachments.f95zone.to/2019/10/436337_Holiday_Island_FAQ.txt

It is pretty good and HUGE. I cut it up and stored it as a series of notes on my Linux basket notes program(something similar exists for windows). You can divide it into FAQ or "general", poker, hotshots, hangman, console and then each females name and it works really well that way. I have found very few things that aren't in this like Jessica's nipple gasm out at the sun lounge on the beach. I particularly like that scene for some reason, LOL.

Since probably most all people are "cheating" to some degree on this thing, if you are good and quick on the mouse click you have some degree of control over where the hotshots wheel stops. Note to developer, please do not close off this ability, LOL.
 

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question to your Q#15 - training:
if I'm understand correctly ... requirements for increase of strength goes up ... so when I'm level 9 and want to go to 10 I need
to hit the gym 12 times for a week (than i can keep level 10 by doing it once) ... so I need for example train each day + massage+5times doing it twice a day. Thats correct?
Also whats the numbers for increasing hacking/sneak, charm and looks(there are only 5 levels)
How much beauty cream do i need to use per week to increase my look from lvl 2 to 3, or 4 to 5? Is there a difference? Does it matter if I use beauty cream 5-7 times in a row during one day ... or i need to do like each day once?
Also how much do i need to train endurance to go from max 50 to max 100. Is there one number or its also increase (more max. endurance - more workout to increase?)
15) How can I increase my stats without cheating?
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Hope that helps.
 
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15) How can I increase my stats without cheating?
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Hope that helps.
yes, thanks for answer. I didn't know helping girls lift weights also gives me points - btw. do I need to have at least same level of strength as they have?
and those endurance training? 4 endurance training is enough to increase the max. cap for endurance /usually i start with 50 - i know i can get to 100/ or can i train more endurance per week - or its same as strength training /not more than 4/.
 
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Very good!
Once the FAQ became so huge, I reorganized it so that it could be easily split up. Especially the checklist and the Hotshots answers, and now the Guess Who descriptions.
I kept it together for ease of posting, but everyone should edit it to make it as useful as possible.
I don't find the game unplayable without it. By playing the game, things will usually just happen. Finding these things gives you a sense of excitement which is part of what makes this a great game. However, I doubt I'd have figured out how to get Yumiko's Easter egg without help from the people on this thread.
I don't think it's cheating to use it. You're just asking for help and that's not wrong. However, you do lose a sense of discovery so that's why there is a spoiler alert for everything there.
I started making my FAQ because of Bantry's request. It was just a little 20 question list of all the questions we had to answer over and over about how to fuck Ivy or whatever. Then Bantry suggested it could be as close to a walkthrough as we can get for this game. That's when I reorganized it and tried to answer any question that might come up. Now it's over 150 questions and ready to answer many more for 1.9.
I did it just to help the players, and I hope it still does.
 
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yes, thanks for answer. I didn't know helping girls lift weights also gives me points - btw. do I need to have at least same level of strength as they have?
and those endurance training? 4 endurance training is enough to increase the max. cap for endurance /usually i start with 50 - i know i can get to 100/ or can i train more endurance per week - or its same as strength training /not more than 4/.
You have to pass a strength test. I don't know exactly what is needed for the test. Having the same strength as the girl should guarantee it. Ivy and Amy are the only ones that will be difficult.
Endurance training works the same as strength training except that you need to jog or swim instead of lift weights and your increase on Sunday will be by 10, from 50 to 60 for example, instead of just 1. As Jennifer explains, don't train more than 4 times per week. This applies to strength and endurance, but not looks, charm and sneak.
 
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I think your strength has to equal or better than who you are spotting. I've not caught Miriam in the gym but she is off the scale at 10++. I think you would need some yellow? pills to be able to spot her, maybe some red pills and have your natural strength maxed at 10. She did admit that she is actually stronger than Mercedes. I have been in the gym at all hours and never found her there though so maybe it doesn't matter.

Jennifer and Amy are 6 of 10's so they are strong but not the strongest in the pack. That actually makes some sense since Jennfer was injected with Amy's dna.
 

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They definitely have the BUTTS. LOL. On all my characters they are also proportional so none of them look odd or out of place. The thing that usually isn't is that they are a bit top heavy but when you are sliding something hard inbetween those things what does it matter.
 

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It would take a lot of work to change the PC's image, but maybe for 2.x we could have a skinnier version of the PC for Strength 5 or less. From 6 to 8, we get the normal body we always see. Then for strength 9 and up, we could get a true bodybuilder type body.
Alternately, the image we have could be the little one, with him increasing size twice, but this would probably be harder to pull off and having a huge PC might bother some players..
However, let's think about how many images this would require the Developer to make. Ivy's arrival would have to have three versions with text also changed. One where she says: "You're pretty puny. You're going to have to start lifting if you want me to notice you." A second one which we already have, and a third one where she says: "I thought you were just a little guy, now I see that you're huge." Ivy's true strength would need two extra versions. Yvette's dinner would need a large amount of renders. And the list goes on.
I estimate 60 to 120 renders for the whole game, but that's not the worst of it. Every sex scene animation would need two more versions!
However, I've also been bothered that he gets a lot stronger but his image stays the same. So I like the idea, it just needs to be put off until all of the cornerstones are in place.

Allowing for a squat image and an inclined sit up image, say, which would rotate when you work out at the gym without Jennifer would probably be easy enough to accomplish. For workouts with Jennifer, she could say, "Good, PC, now finish up with some sit ups (or squats)," then cut to the new image and have the PC say: "Jennifer really makes sure you get a good workout," to finish the scene. However, always apply Alice's Razor (formally Faye's Razor), would you rather see your new idea or play Hotshots with Alice? If Alice wins, then your idea goes on the back burner.

More important, I think, is your wanting the PC's taking a blue pill to effect a scene more. Right now every scene has one version, so only Faye seems aware of what the blue pill can do. (Although I have had Alice mention it in her text after her pole dance.) It would be nice to take a blue pill and get a different version of a scene.
This would have to wait until 2.x because it's not really a cornerstone of the game, like getting each girl pecs training, bench pressing and pull-ups, or even getting Lacey her sperm congestion scene and Brenda her reception interactions.
However, if a small goal were set, like having handjobs on the PC have 2 versions: one for normal 8" size and a second for his blue pill size (maybe twice his normal size?). This is still an extraodinary amount of renders, but it could be built up to by checking each girl off one by one for each new version. So, 2.1 could have Jessica get her HJ at the bar, while 2.2 could have Heather get her massage HJ.
This would take a while, but is it worth it? I think so because it would set the stage for offering two versions of every sex scene. However, the Developer may disagree, and if he isn't enthusiastic about a new idea, it may never happen.

Anyway, that's my take on it. Darkhound1 may hate it, he may love it, he may even improve it.
We'll have to wait and see.
 
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