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Great renders and writing but the sex scenes are so boring compared to the prequel. First scene with Meredith was way better.
No kisses, no going down on girls. Scenes were also not that long. It almost feels like some other guy wrote the sex scenes.
Also, I'm tired of olivia acting like a virgin. Why did the dev make her experienced yet decided to make her act like an inexperienced girl? It's like worst of both worlds.
And what kind of Netori is this? Why does olivia's passion route revolve around MC asking about olivia's ex's dick? Meredith was married but we never had to hear about her husband's dick. Again, it's almost like some other guy wrote these lines.
The less I talk about Asmodeus the better. Not a fan of her. I hope she's not a main LI and I can avoid her.
No kisses, no going down on girls. Scenes were also not that long. It almost feels like some other guy wrote the sex scenes.
Also, I'm tired of olivia acting like a virgin. Why did the dev make her experienced yet decided to make her act like an inexperienced girl? It's like worst of both worlds.
And what kind of Netori is this? Why does olivia's passion route revolve around MC asking about olivia's ex's dick? Meredith was married but we never had to hear about her husband's dick. Again, it's almost like some other guy wrote these lines.
The less I talk about Asmodeus the better. Not a fan of her. I hope she's not a main LI and I can avoid her.
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It's all me. No one else did the scenes.
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They aren't truly full "shoot" scenes, just "orientation" scenes. And honestly, it would have felt waaay out of character for either woman to be immediately on board with kissing the day they met MC and without it being a real "shoot". Personally I enjoyed them quite a bit as intro scenes for them.
As for Olivia, she literally thinks in her scene that she's never stripped for anyone but her ex before (assuming you have her strip for you). So she's "experienced" in that she just broke up with her four-year boyfriend, but clearly not experienced with different partners. That makes the situation with MC new, even ignoring the whole contract thing. And on your other note, clearly one possible kink trait you can unlock is a "bull" kink. So that's definitely gonna focus on dick size. You can, of course, avoid that if you so desire.
As for Asmodeus, I like her character quite a bit so far. Quite interested in learning more of her story and motives. No idea if she's going to be a main LI or not, but there are points being tracked for her, so seems possible.
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The Lord came down from heaven to us, his servants of God.It's all me. No one else did the scenes.
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I know man and that's why I said it almost feels like some other guy wrote this because I'm a huge fan of your writing. I'm sorry if you felt bad about my comments.It's all me. No one else did the scenes.
Meredith's first sex scenes felt 'complete' to me except that there were no kisses but she asked him not to kiss her so that was understandable.
I know that you didn't like writing Netori content in your previous game but I personally feel those Netori content were better than this 'Bull Netori' you are trying in this game.
They literally fucked though. Do people nowadays really think 'kissing' is more intimate than 'sex'?
Okay, I agree with this. Still, she's acting too inexperienced for me. Would have made more sense if she was actually virgin.
Sure it's avoidable but the 'passion' route is tied to this kink. If you want to increase passion points you have to choose these 'bull' options. So yeah, it's avoidable but I'll end up avoiding half of her content.
I'm kinda opposite on this one. The least I know about LIs sexual past the better it is for me. I mean, she's a 'MILF' so I never expected her to be a virgin but what kind of woman introduces herself as "I used to be an active participant of this game where people just fuck random people for shoots".
Maxime is also a MILF and I liked her a lot. she never brought up her past and never came off as slutty. I don't like slutty LIs that's why I wanted to know if I can avoid her.
First off, the game is amazing. One of the best I've played, for sure, both this one and the prequel. Highly engaging, gorgeous to look at, very well written and with an interesting plot.
The main "issue" for me, is that it's VERY high in how erotic it is while having very low "fap value". I put those things in quotes because they are subjective on an individual basis. It is gorgeous to look at and admire, almost like art is. New Antioch and Desert Stalker are two other games that have the same characteristic - all around amazing, very high eroticism but very low "visual porn".
I'd say it has a lot to do with the chosen angles for the scenes. In most scenes, especially the animated ones, what we see it's either a close up (it's a (BIG) dick inside a pussy with an ass around it, and we don't actually see the characters), or it angles in a way we don't see the characters' faces (95% of folks are only interested in seeing the girl, mind) and/or the "good bits" of their body.
The irony is that the context of House of Hearts directly states that it's main "mundane" counterpart is ****hub. Ya gotta properly showcase the goods for porn, man.
The scenes feel very intimate and extremely well done, no question about it, but I feel they're severely lacking in the "showcasing the goods" part.
In this game, the one best renders imo comes AFTER the entire encounter with Olivia, while we see her full body spread with our cum either splashed on her or dripping from inside her as she's catching her breath (makes me think of an Al Pacino line from "The Devil's Advocate" where he says that the girls he fucks always look at him as if they've been roughly fucked by an entire football team after he's done with them, as they're catching their breaths on shaky legs - or something like that). In the prequel game, I recall maybe only one or two scenes that properly showed Meredith and Maxime (for Meredith it was a Missionary position that happened in the hotel, before the husband asks to watch).
For reference, the angles for the scenes present in, let's say, Eternum, are absolutely amazing. Unfortunately for me, I feel the story in that one and character building and writing as a whole is pretty damn bad. BaDIK has excellent scenes too, overall even some that have that "intimate" feel that HoH and GoH have so many of (nevermind time gap between updates being ROUGH), but the story... honestly don't even remember it due to how forgettable it is.
Something else worthy of note: Ruby. I'm not a big fan of Ruby's new look either. There are already a lot of milf/milf-looking characters. I'd much rather she stayed young. Not that she doesn't look great - she does - but between those two options, I feel she got a downgrade.
Despite all that I've written here though, the irony is that I don't actually play AVNs for fapping - that's a very nice added bonus though. So despite the game not being up there in straight up porn standards (unless you count for that ultra-intimate vibe where you see a face and nothing else, or just a part of the body and nothing else), it still remains one of the absolute best games on the site and I can't recommend it enough.
The main "issue" for me, is that it's VERY high in how erotic it is while having very low "fap value". I put those things in quotes because they are subjective on an individual basis. It is gorgeous to look at and admire, almost like art is. New Antioch and Desert Stalker are two other games that have the same characteristic - all around amazing, very high eroticism but very low "visual porn".
I'd say it has a lot to do with the chosen angles for the scenes. In most scenes, especially the animated ones, what we see it's either a close up (it's a (BIG) dick inside a pussy with an ass around it, and we don't actually see the characters), or it angles in a way we don't see the characters' faces (95% of folks are only interested in seeing the girl, mind) and/or the "good bits" of their body.
The irony is that the context of House of Hearts directly states that it's main "mundane" counterpart is ****hub. Ya gotta properly showcase the goods for porn, man.
The scenes feel very intimate and extremely well done, no question about it, but I feel they're severely lacking in the "showcasing the goods" part.
In this game, the one best renders imo comes AFTER the entire encounter with Olivia, while we see her full body spread with our cum either splashed on her or dripping from inside her as she's catching her breath (makes me think of an Al Pacino line from "The Devil's Advocate" where he says that the girls he fucks always look at him as if they've been roughly fucked by an entire football team after he's done with them, as they're catching their breaths on shaky legs - or something like that). In the prequel game, I recall maybe only one or two scenes that properly showed Meredith and Maxime (for Meredith it was a Missionary position that happened in the hotel, before the husband asks to watch).
For reference, the angles for the scenes present in, let's say, Eternum, are absolutely amazing. Unfortunately for me, I feel the story in that one and character building and writing as a whole is pretty damn bad. BaDIK has excellent scenes too, overall even some that have that "intimate" feel that HoH and GoH have so many of (nevermind time gap between updates being ROUGH), but the story... honestly don't even remember it due to how forgettable it is.
Something else worthy of note: Ruby. I'm not a big fan of Ruby's new look either. There are already a lot of milf/milf-looking characters. I'd much rather she stayed young. Not that she doesn't look great - she does - but between those two options, I feel she got a downgrade.
Despite all that I've written here though, the irony is that I don't actually play AVNs for fapping - that's a very nice added bonus though. So despite the game not being up there in straight up porn standards (unless you count for that ultra-intimate vibe where you see a face and nothing else, or just a part of the body and nothing else), it still remains one of the absolute best games on the site and I can't recommend it enough.
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Maybe it's just my age, but Ruby still looked pretty young to me, especially compared to women like Meredith, Helena, and Asmodeus. We didn't have a whole lot of renders with her new look in different lighting to tell for sure, but I think I liked her development. She seems more "in-between" the younger and older LIs now, kind of like Julia (who is still young-looking, but not as young as someone like Karly or Brie).
Kissing is often portrayed as a more "romantic" act within the context of sex work (which ultimately is what Olivia and Helena are currently engaged in with MC). The whole "no kissing" thing is definitely a common trope. And I can remember that as far back as the 1990 movie Pretty Woman, so I wouldn't really call it new. (See:
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)There's options that give passion not tied to it, but yes, if you absolutely want to max passion you need to go down that path in this scene.
That said, we know the system is going to be a bit different this time around compared to GoH. So there might not just be a binary affection vs corruption path. And more traits might be introduced later as well. Personally I went for a mix, while only generally favoring my preferred path.
On that note, I think the most significant choice for both scenes, other than gaining traits, is whether to cum inside or outside. It directly affects if you get a Love or Lust token for both of the women.
On a related note, I'm curious what other peoples' scores for these orientation routes were. No idea if absolutely maxing them will have a direct benefit or not later (there's specific score cut offs for if the scene is good or not in this update), but I'm always a bit of a min-maxer for these things.
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has anyone noticed that olivia's face really looks like pinkpantheress or am i just seeing things?
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Just googled who "pinkpantheress" is and you're right. Almost an identical match. (I'm in love)
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Awesome first release for the sequel. I really can't find anything bad to say about this. Can't wait for the next one!
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I understand that tastes are subjective. But to dilute what Olivia is into a bull netori is a gross misrepresentation of what she is as a character, and also the actual content of the game itself.
There are normal/other romance(netori) routes for Olivia, too.
The trait system is set up so that if you don't want a specific trait from a character, you don't have to deal with it. I've made this way so that you won't be caged into one specific corruption/attraction path, but instead, you are given more freedom to define what you mean to each other. There will be more traits down the line. Some are kinks, some will be relationship types. They're not all the same.
I cannot replace Meredith. I do not wish to replace Meredith. There is no better Meredith than Meredith herself.
Meredith comes from a specific background. She feels that she herself is unattractive to the eyes of most men, and she internally feels blessed that you gave her so much care and attention from the get-go. She is rarely exposed to very attractive people. She is also sexually frustrated. Lilith was also present inside Nero and was helping him out in Game of Hearts. She didn't know it herself, and she didn't even want to admit it back then, but Meredith wanted something different in her life. An escape. Something exciting... And you are exactly what she wanted.
The combination of all those attributes is why her first scene felt the way it did: It is not accidental. It is by design.
It will be so much simpler if I copy and paste that concept x3 for House of Hearts, which will save me so much time thinking and planning. So much easier to make since I already have that exact template.
But then what we'll end up with are 3 more copies of Meredith with adjusted personalities. They'll all act differently at first, but after some time, they'll become essentially 3 Merediths with different moods. The only difference is that you'll be disappointed later down the line instead of now.
I repeat, I do not want to replace Meredith. She is a legacy character, and I want her to be special. That's why I don't want to copy her exact path of progression. She must feel and is different than the others.
House of Hearts tackles different characters, personalities, and, more importantly, people from different backgrounds. They react to attention differently. Some are well-off. Some are truly happy with their relationships... and Lilith is no longer with you this time.
They are essentially tougher opponents. I've alluded to this at the end of Game of Hearts: Once Lilith's last vestiges of power are depleted from your body, it won't be as easy as it was with Meredith. This isn't a surprise.
Any first scenes with these characters should not be instantly that intimate, as it betrays who they are. As handsome as Nero is, he is not their dream man.
It's your task to make it so that he is.
If the first scene with them feels like how it was with Meredith, then you shouldn't be praising me. That approach to their scenes is a mistake.
The purpose of the first episode isn't wholly seduction. It is understanding. Understanding what they want. Understanding what they don't tell you. Knowing their tells and getting familiar with each other's presence. It's the beginning of a spark, not the spark itself. You will get there. And this time, it will take real effort to reach that point.
If you don't like it this way and prefer things to be like how it was... well, I don't know what to do.
I can't please everyone. I'm not trying to.
I just wanted to explain things.
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Beautifully and adequately put mate(and this comes from a weird guy who understands full-well Meredith as a character but still can't like her for some reasons). Hope you have joy and success while making this game
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I honestly hope that's the case. Because it would be so hot to see Olivia instantly cum from just whispering in her ear about her boyfriends smaller sized cock compared to MC's dinosaur leg.
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When I started this game I thought 'affection and passion' are like 'attraction and corruption' routes so thanks for clarifying that it's not the case. Now I can freely choose the options I want. Earlier I was trying to maximize either affection or passion.
As for the sex scenes, I like foreplay as much as the actual sex so maybe I was expecting MC to do more like going down on the girls. I know that this was their first time so they couldn't be that intimate and you want to keep kisses as something special so I hope MC will atleast start going down on girls when real shoot starts.
I still think olivia should have been a virgin because I would rather have a virgin inexperienced girl than a non-virgin inexperienced girl.
I don't like olivia and Asmodeus (sorry) but I like brie, ruby and karly a lot whereas I'm neutral about rest of the girls since I need to know more about them. I really liked this game and I'm really excited for the next update.
Thanks for explaining things. It was really great to know your thought process.