lewutt2

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I have said this many times it's Ai generated there is nothing to code other than structure of game which is basics renpy model real skill is to design characters and scenes which are Ai generated
Bro that is amazing! Can u plz make ur new game like this? I will be ur top subscriber and unsubscribe from here:love::love:
 

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Desculpa, mano, não posso te dar um e-mail, posso ser banido. :ROFLMAO: Se você gostar do jogo, espere até o próximo lançamento, e algumas cenas de apoio deste lançamento serão totalmente abertas a todos. Se não puder esperar, considere apoiar o criador. Se o ajudarmos a expandir a equipe, tenho certeza de que os próximos lançamentos serão ainda maiores.
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Ruuotiouyrir

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the only thing thats gonna be released on the 17th is the version that is already available here, its still gonna be censored.
you really really need to talk less man
Bro they were asking about when will public release on itch so I answered that and that's yesterday's post I don't understand why the heck is everyone trying to create fuss about damed useless topic
 

lesgoxxx

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When you compare games and amount of dev effort behind it, you have to compare apples to apples. All those "manually produced/rendered CG" games you may be familiar with, do not follow the same mechanics and degrees of freedom that you find in this game. This is a sandbox, story driven game with a gazillion combination of choices where each choice ultimately affects the game and story in one way or another. THAT is where the vast majority of development goes, and the hard part for people who aren't developers to understand. NOT asset generation (which is still a lot more than just pressing a button and slapping the pic into the game - compare the assets of this game with any other AI gen game and you'll get what I mean). So all those people going "hurrdurr ai game dev works 10 mins a month and gives 20min content" have no clue what they're talking about because:
a) They never coded in their life
b) They never developed a game in their life.

And you don't need to take my word for it. Use simple logic. If it was"hurrdurr press button, 2k a month", why wouldn't literally everyone and their grandma be doing it? Free 2k/month for everybody!! HIT THOSE AI BUTTONS TO MAKE YOUR GAME AND GET YOUR 2K EVERYBODY!! Guys, for real, if you know something i don't, please teach me how to press button and make 2k so i can quit my job plz thx

Last but not least, to add further to the "compare apples to apples" argument: Unlike most 5 star games, this game has 1 person doing everything (who until this month ALSO had a full time job on the side from what I read). It's not a team behind it.

Tl;dr - Content rate is good (and i expect it to be improved now that dev is full time on it, and even considering expanding the team). If you are looking for a game to jerk off to 1 pic and go home, this isn't your game. This is a sandbox, story driven game with choices that actually matter. So the effort behind it is a lot more than your usual porn game. Which is why I decided to support it after just a few days as free player (even though I knew i would still get all content sooner or later as free player).
"This is a sandbox, story driven game with choices that actually matter. So the effort behind it is a lot more than your usual porn game."

It's also 2d VN type.

Anyway, sandbox games aren't exactly rare out in the adult gaming world, so this dev's effort in coding the mechanics for this game isn't any different than the effort of other devs that also make the same type of games. That just leaves the graphic quality and storytelling, the former relying on AI and the latter being carried by an anime IP. And because of AI art and anime IP, the effort on these two aspects of the game compared to most porn games out there, regardless of being sandbox or not, have been effectively minimized.

That means the overall effort put into this game is definitely less than most other non-anime IP sandbox porn games out there, if not less than your average kinetic AVN. And even if those other sandbox porn games do run on anime IPs, they just don't use AI for the graphic quality. Still less overall effort for this game.

So really, ppl are supporting a dev that isn't even shedding their own blood, sweat, and tears for their graphic quality, nor even seriously racking their brain for their storytelling. Yes, there's effort but again it's minimal. This dev was able to win over your money with mediocre effort on overall game development, but best of all they were able to win your loyalty with cheap (but effective) effort specifically on graphic quality. Yes, you have been captivated and ensnared by the effortlessly beautifully refined AI art. That's the real reason you're supporting the dev. Not because of the absolutely awesome and unique game mechanics. Congrats to the dev for working smart instead of working hard.

Now, I know more of you supporters will start asking something like, "If it's so easy with AI, why isn't everyone doing it?" Well, not everyone is both a programmer and image editor at the same time. But I guarantee you, the moment they are, they still gotta overcome some ethics before being able to make a porn game with the same level of graphic quality as HoS and profiting off of it.

It's only a matter of time before more and more "skilled" ppl realize how profitable AI is in the adult gaming world that they will start taking advantage of it for themselves. Hell, AI art is already surfacing in the doujinshi world, and the best AI art (along with being anime IP based) I've seen from the doujinshi world comes from someone called FEFanatica but good thing they have the ethics to not try and profit off of it.

Yeah, go check out FEFanatica. Not only do they have great AI assisted art but they can also tell a story with some feels in it. The best part is it's all free for the public like it's supposed to because it's not original human work.
 
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lewutt2

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"This is a sandbox, story driven game with choices that actually matter. So the effort behind it is a lot more than your usual porn game."

It's also 2d VN type.

Anyway, sandbox games aren't exactly rare out in the adult gaming world, so this dev's effort in coding the mechanics for this game isn't any different than the effort of other devs that also make the same type of games. That just leaves the graphic quality and storytelling, the former relying on AI and the latter being carried by an anime IP. And because of AI art and anime IP, the effort on these two aspects of the game compared to most porn games out there, regardless of being sandbox or not, have been effectively minimized.

That means the overall effort put into this game is definitely less than most other non-anime IP sandbox porn games out there, if not less than your average kinetic AVN. And even if those other sandbox porn games do run on anime IPs, they just don't use AI for the graphic quality. Still less overall effort for this game.

So really, ppl are supporting a dev that isn't even shedding their own blood, sweat, and tears for their graphic quality, nor even seriously racking their brain for their storytelling. Yes, there's effort but again it's minimal. This dev was able to win over your money with mediocre effort on overall game development, but best of all they were able to win your loyalty with cheap (but effective) effort specifically on graphic quality. Yes, you have been captivated and ensnared by the effortlessly beautifully refined AI art. That's the real reason you're supporting the dev. Not because of the absolutely awesome and unique game mechanics. Congrats to the dev for working smart instead of working hard.

Now, I know more of you supporters will start asking something like, "If it's so easy with AI, why isn't everyone doing it?" Well, not everyone is both a programmer and image editor at the same time. But I guarantee you, the moment they are, they still gotta overcome some ethics before being able to make a porn game with the same level of graphic quality as HoS and profiting off of it.

It's only a matter of time before more and more "skilled" ppl realize how profitable AI is in the adult gaming world that they will start taking advantage of it for themselves. Hell, AI art is already surfacing in the doujinshi world, and the best AI art (along with being anime IP based) I've seen from the doujinshi world comes from someone called FEFanatica but good thing they have the ethics to not try and profit off of it.

Yeah, go check out FEFanatica. Not only do they have great AI assisted art but they can also tell a story with some feels in it. The best part is it's all free for the public like it's supposed to because it's not original human work.

Talking about "ethics" on a forum like this is funny. It's even funnier how your entire argument boils down to copyright infringement when this entire sector is filled to the brim with some sort of IP infringement. Let's take a few examples (I'm sure you know them already):

a) DAZ3d games, all of them using pirated assets
b) Koikatsu/Honey select games, all of them infringing on illusion company's copyright
c) Parodies ranging form anime, disney, games, series, movies, common as hell
d) HTML games using real porn IP

The list goes on and on. And the VAST majority of them have some sort of monetization. Whether it's built into the game, or in the form of dev having donations set up. It's only natural.

Bottom line: People will find a reason to hate on someone if they really want to hate on someone. But it's quite hypocritical to single out one out of the 20000 on the forum, and use this argument, which as I demonstrated, for better or worse is common practice, to devalue the effort that goes into providing the overall experience. No, I'm not supporting the dev cause I was brainwashed with "cheap effort on graphic quality" or some other complicated 5d emotional manipulation. It's really simple. They have a good product, I wanna support it. And when you put effort into something, it's only natural to look for some kind of compensation. Not sure why that's such a controversial take. As for the IP argument, if I (or you, for that matter) gave a fuck about all the IP arguments, we wouldn't be on a forum like this in the first place. We would be crusading on 90% of threads on 90% of the games on here crying about IP infringement and how dare the devs have pages for donations/subscriptions (P.S. repeating what i said in earlier comments - game IS free, and subs are up to those who decide its worth the support).

As for the low effort argument, let's use your own words:

"Well, not everyone is both a programmer and image editor at the same time." - That's right. But why? It's free money, right? Simple answer. It requires effort, time, skill, dedication to be all of those things on 1 person (and it's not just those 2 skills that you need). You just countered your own argument.

So in my opinion let's drop the hypocritical high horse act, and focus on giving feedback on the game. Don't like it? Mention what you don't like about it, I saw the dev replying to this forum sometimes so they probably read feedback, and who knows, it may make the game even better. But I see a lot of people on here who's only purpose is to complain with 0 valid arguments.

That being said thanks for the recommendation, I'll check it out.
 
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lesgoxxx

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Talking about "ethics" on a forum like this is funny. It's even funnier how your entire argument boils down to copyright infringement when this entire sector is filled to the brim with some sort of IP infringement. Let's take a few examples (I'm sure you know them already):

a) DAZ3d games, all of them using pirated assets
b) Koikatsu/Honey select games, all of them infringing on illusion company's copyright
c) Parodies ranging form anime, disney, games, series, movies, common as hell
d) HTML games using real porn IP

The list goes on and on. And the VAST majority of them have some sort of monetization. Whether it's built into the game, or in the form of dev having donations set up. It's only natural.

Bottom line: People will find a reason to hate on someone if they really want to hate on someone. But it's quite hypocritical to single out one out of the 20000 on the forum, and use this argument, which as I demonstrated, for better or worse is common practice, to devalue the effort that goes into providing the overall experience. No, I'm not supporting the dev cause I was brainwashed with "cheap effort on graphic quality" or some other complicated 5d emotional manipulation. It's really simple. They have a good product, I wanna support it. And when you put effort into something, it's only natural to look for some kind of compensation. Not sure why that's such a controversial take. As for the IP argument, if I (or you, for that matter) gave a fuck about all the IP arguments, we wouldn't be on a forum like this in the first place. We would be crusading on 90% of threads on 90% of the games on here crying about IP infringement and how dare the devs have pages for donations/subscriptions (P.S. repeating what i said in earlier comments - game IS free, and subs are up to those who decide its worth the support).

As for the low effort argument, let's use your own words:

"Well, not everyone is both a programmer and image editor at the same time." - That's right. But why? It's free money, right? Simple answer. It requires effort, time, skill, dedication to be all of those things on 1 person (and it's not just those 2 skills that you need). You just countered your own argument.

So in my opinion let's drop the hypocritical high horse act, and focus on giving feedback on the game. Don't like it? Mention what you don't like about it, I saw the dev replying to this forum sometimes so they probably read feedback, and who knows, it may make the game even better. But I see a lot of people on here who's only purpose is to complain with 0 valid arguments.

That being said thanks for the recommendation, I'll check it out.
I'm not putting on any hypocritical high horse act. I'm just chopping down the pedestal you wanna put this game on like it's anything made with special high effort when it clearly isn't RELATIVE to other games out there. And yet, you probably think that the cheap effort is justifiable enough to implement anti piracy paywalls.

The most notable aspect of this game is it's graphic quality. That's it's selling point. So when it succeeds in selling, it is only natural to ponder if it is deserving of the success. What did the dev do for the graphic quality to reach that level of success? Did it require anything from the soul itself? Of course not when you use AI combined with an established IP.

You never would've supported this game if not for the graphic quality being the way it is because of AI use. Or what? You're telling me you're also donating/subscribing to thousands of porn games out there for just being sandbox type games and/or anime IP based like this one is? Well, great. Not everyone's filthy rich with a passion like you.

A game having donations/subscriptions alone isn't a problem. But trying to protect the potential profits you get from it especially when AI or established IPs are involved is where the irony hangs heavy and is due for criticism.

I may sound like a hater but it's definitely better than sounding like a bootlicker.
 
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lewutt2

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I'm not putting on any hypocritical high horse act. I'm just chopping down the pedestal you wanna put this game on like it's anything made with special high effort when it clearly isn't RELATIVE to other games out there. And yet, you probably think that the cheap effort is justifiable enough to implement anti piracy paywalls.

The most notable aspect of this game is it's graphic quality. That's it's selling point. So when it succeeds in selling, it is only natural to ponder if it is deserving of the success. What did the dev do for the graphic quality to reach that level of success? Did it require anything from the soul itself? Of course not when you use AI combined with an established IP.
Have you ever heard of a little something called "opinion" or are you used to spreading your word like it's gospel? Everything I write on here are my personal opinions. You are free to argue against them, as you have, and I'm free to shoot down your arguments very easily and logically, as I have.

Yes, I think you are underestimating the amount of effort that goes into making a game like this, and I proved it in very simple to grasp concepts. Think it's low effort? Do it dude, free money! Boom, I just solved your "filthy rich" problem. In fact I will personally come to your thread and throw my money at you if your game has a similar level of quality and effort - as I have done for various other games on here. You still haven't come up with a single counter-argument to that other than what boils down too "eh, maybe it's a bit more complicated after all".

You never would've supported this game if not for the graphic quality being the way it is because of AI use. Or what? You're telling me you're also donating/subscribing to thousands of porn games out there for just being sandbox type games and/or anime IP based like this one is? Well, great. Not everyone's filthy rich with a passion like you.
Damn dude, I didn't know you're also a mind reader that knows why I do what I do, and what I do with my money and my motivations behind it. Fuck yea you bet your ass I am donating and subscribing to any game and developer I see and I like and want to support. I already provided to you a solution for the filthy rich problem above. It's piss easy after all, isn't it?

I already explained the reasons I support the game. It's not one or the other. It's a combination of reasons. Effort that goes into it is one of them, and I'm still waiting for any of you schmucks who go "hurrdurr its just X and low effort and anyone can do it" to go and make their game and I will gladly support it and put it on a pedestal in the same way. Deep down you know it's not that simple, so you sprinkle in a bit of "BUT I HAVE ETHICS THATS TOTALLY WHY I AINT DOING IT!!", another ridiculous argument coming from a dweller of this forum.

A game having donations/subscriptions alone isn't a problem. But trying to protect the potential profits you get from it especially when AI or established IPs are involved is where the irony hangs heavy and is due for criticism.

I may sound like a hater but it's definitely better than sounding like a bootlicker.
Oh okay, so now infringing on IP is okay, as long as its donations and subscriptions, cause that's totally not infrigement. It's only infringement if I'm personally annoyed that the dev releases some content faster for his subscribers, and the game is still ENTIRELY FREE for EVERYONE ELSE, just a few weeks later.

Bro, your mental gymnastics are giving me vertigo. You don't sound like a hater or a bootlicker. You just sound entitled, and in denial. When you have a better argument for why you should dictate which IP-infringing games (all of them btw) I support with my money, let's talk. Also if you can teach me how to make games and get rich (you portray it as very simple and low effort) - please let's get in touch. I'm interested in your services and will pay for it if you have experience to transfer that knowledge.
 
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