you are right and i apologize for ranting. im more upset with myself for getting so for spending so much time trying to get the doja scene. at the end of the day i dont think im the target audience for this game.
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Yo guys,
working away on another update to the FDC mod; finally managed to crack / make sense of some more stuff, so now I basically have access to modifying any given value (from any character) at any point in time... like attributes, states, plot values, personality traits, inventory...
Example: I've made it so Doja Cat will never become angry and her dialogue remain accessible even if you jizz on her (this will be in the next update; previously I made her non-combat, but all interactions were still being locked).
Another idea I'm having: making it so whenever you complete a quest, and in doing so it caused you to fail or miss another one, revert that failed/missed quest back to a playable state, so you may do a true 100% completionist playthrough.
What would you like to see made possible, changed or added?
PS: if you downloaded the mod and it doesn't work for you, please feel free to hit me up in the DMs. Got a message from someone saying exactly that, but so far they didn't come back with a reply unfortunately (I would very much like to help, but need a bit more context and maybe your most recent MelonLoader log file).
Cheers
working away on another update to the FDC mod; finally managed to crack / make sense of some more stuff, so now I basically have access to modifying any given value (from any character) at any point in time... like attributes, states, plot values, personality traits, inventory...
Example: I've made it so Doja Cat will never become angry and her dialogue remain accessible even if you jizz on her (this will be in the next update; previously I made her non-combat, but all interactions were still being locked).
Another idea I'm having: making it so whenever you complete a quest, and in doing so it caused you to fail or miss another one, revert that failed/missed quest back to a playable state, so you may do a true 100% completionist playthrough.
What would you like to see made possible, changed or added?
PS: if you downloaded the mod and it doesn't work for you, please feel free to hit me up in the DMs. Got a message from someone saying exactly that, but so far they didn't come back with a reply unfortunately (I would very much like to help, but need a bit more context and maybe your most recent MelonLoader log file).
Cheers
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What I want to see is an easy context menu way of accessing all sexual content in the game. Not just make any character have sex with another character, but also triggering all the story-related cutscenes as well.
- Yes I know this is easily possible with console commands, but the whole point of this would be to make it easier and faster to access that content.
- Yes I know there are a few mods already, but they dont give you access to all of this stuff at the same time.
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I hear you, and I will try to implement this going forward (from a gameplay perspective, this makes a lot of sense. From a programming perspective, this puts me into a pit of "unknown territory" kind of shit)
Anyways, I've updated the mod now (please download it again from the initial post).
New features / changes:
- Doja will no longer be angry at you whenever you pull out your D and start jerking. However: you may not be able to continue her quests. She WILL still talk to you, and not attack you... but just be mindful of that shit. (Dev insight: I have NO idea what causes her to actually not want to continue her quest... it's probably a flag that still eludes me)
- I disabled the player's bladder auto-increase with the last version. Now, the initial bladder value is also reset to zero when you first start the game (so you don't begin with an arbitrary amount of piss rigth out the gate).
- Undressing a character will now SAVE their current outfit (for the remainder of the current play session) so that whenever you redress them, they will use whatever clothes they had before being undressed.
PLEASE NOTE: if you save a game whilst a character is flagged as "undressed" and then restart it, that "undressed" state will become their new "dressed" state.
- You can now turn characters into exhibitionists (toggleable) meaning they will no longer try to cover their nudity when being naked - for example whenever you may or may not have decided to undress them.
- With the undocumented button "NUMPAD 5" (not shown on the ingame display) you can dump all character values for the currently selected character into the MelonLoader log. Not sure how this helps you or me... but I put it in regardless.
Cheers,
DCF
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You realize you're on a piracy site which already illegally redistributes the game? Comply for what good reason? At that point, might as well comply to no piracy against their game.
Especially when it's just a mod that is completely optional. Morally speaking, I will never agree with companies taking down mods out of all things even if they're legally in the right.
And to the people that say "Devs/DC don't want her fictional character to be depicted in a sexual manner", then maybe the devs and DC should avoid putting an avatar of a person (who doesn't want to be depicted sexually) in a porn game out of all things to begin with.
I completely disagree because not only does Steam often has two completely different responses to the same product (recent one being UTW -
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), the "sexual depictions involving real people" are for real life images/videos slapped on to a game.(Example:
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)Making a fictional character depicting a real person isn't "involving real people", it's involving their avatar which is made out of pixels, there's a clear difference.
Did we forget that Johnny Silverhand, a depiction of Keanu Reeves exists in Cyberpunk 2077? They literally show him having sex with another character.
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Also many people here actually bought the game. It's just a good platform to talk.
Developers can be held responsible (or at least get a lot of shit) if a mod puts something in a game or unlocks something in the game that was supposed to be hidden or not even in it. Remember "hot coffee".
Not even the cheapskates want to hurt Eek, the makers of this game, right?
It's DCF's decision to comply to such a request or not. It's neither mine nor yours. The best thing you can do is not to argue, but to keep a backup copy of the mod.
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Yes, I realize. And no, there is still a difference. I 100% know nobody on here gives a fuck, as little as I do. But should "officials" ever bother me, I have an "out" so to speak. And I never pirated their game - I own it on Steam and am simply modifying it for the sake of "because I can"
Second of all... thank you for your input, but I'm afraid it won't fly. Your whole example of people making Johnny Silverhand fuckable is EXACTLY what I was talking about: CDPR reached out and asked the person to take the content down, so they did (I would do the same in a heartbeat if Eek! Reached out to me). But other than that, no harm was ever done, so I guess "officially" that's about as much as you can do, without getting into an ugly legal dispute that nobody wants.
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I am one of them and my point still stands about there being no good reason to comply to any mod take-downs on a pirate site where the game itself is being illegally redistributed.
Not only is your analogy invalid, it's also an anomaly. GTA was never a porn game so, obviously discovering something like a sex gameplay hidden in it would be a big deal.
It's more about the principle behind doing so than anything. People will obviously preserve such mods on many mirrors just like hot coffee is still easily available so, that is not what I'm concerned with.
Again, this is a pirate site, why do you think the "officials" would ever go for a modder on a site where the game itself is being illegally redistributed?
You're comparing a small studio with a massive company like CDPR? These companies can legally take down any and every mods if they wanted to depending on where the mod is hosted at.
But, I don't think a small studio is capable of threatening a lawsuit, let alone to some random guy in a pirate site especially if they live on different sides of the world.
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I never expected that to begin with. That's the beauty of it. Chill.
True. That's one reason why I'm not concerned. But even if I *was* facing the likes of CDPR (or bigger) I would still have no issues with challenging them, because the whole concept of what constitutes a "valid, allowed" modification of their games is not written anywhere, as long as they allow modding of their game in the first place and don't clarify.
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So what are the principles that people should follow who are posting in a forum that also is used for distributing pirated software?
Ah, the olf 'invalid argument' "argument"
That's always good if you can't counter it. No, just because one game focuses on shooting people and the other focuses on screwing people, the rules don't change. Also sex scenes in GTA are not uncommon, they are just not as explicit as in other games.Really, what's the difference (apart from "but this is a porn game...")? Both are games, both have unused assets, both are not meant for children. In both cases the devs can get into into problems. There is a reason why programmers (or texture artists, whatever) are forbidden to add easter eggs on their own.
I too am forbidden to add stuff to my software the company does not know about because they can be held responsible if I screw such stuff up.
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I'm pointing out the inconsistency with such stance of thinking it's okay for devs to take-down mods but also being okay with illegally redistributing the game especially when we are talking about a pirate site and not some official site where they follow copyright laws and stuff. If you care so much about legality to easily comply with a "request" against mods then you shouldn't be engaging with piracy either.
I said your "analogy" was invalid, not the argument itself.Ah, the olf 'invalid argument' "argument"
That was explaining exactly why your analogy was invalid. I didn't dismiss your point by just saying "invalid" like you're pretending it out to be.
Sure, there are sexual themes in GTA but that's nowhere comparable to having an entire "sex gameplay" so, no shit it was a big deal.
The same can't be said for say if GTA locked players out on acting violent against a certain character but modders made it possible which is comparable to a porn game locking players out on acting sexually.
The difference is that one focuses on sex and the other doesn't. So, it's a big deal for one when there's something like a "sex gameplay" hidden underneath meanwhile it wouldn't be anything for a porn game that already focuses on such aspect.
So, it's dumb as fuck for the devs to agree to add DC but not allow any sexual interactions with her in a porn game and expect people to not mod the game to allow sexual interactions with her.
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If a file hoster gets a requests by the rights owner to remove a file, they do ... and there goes your immagined inconsistency.
Also the change made to GTA didn't add anything explicit, the chars were both fully dressed and GTA also already had optional sex in it (hookers). The changes to HP in this case are by far more drastic than what was done in GTA.
It really makes absolutely no difference what the game is about. Just because a game has sexual content does not mean the rules and laws don't apply. It's not about how many nipples or more private parts are shown, it's about adding something unauthorized.
In this specific case: If content is added with her likeness she didn't agree with, she can sue, plain and simple, no matter if the game is about sex or not.
You don't really think the judge will say "put it's a porn game, what did she expect?", do you? The times where the victims could be blamed are over for a couple of years now.
Also the change made to GTA didn't add anything explicit, the chars were both fully dressed and GTA also already had optional sex in it (hookers). The changes to HP in this case are by far more drastic than what was done in GTA.
It really makes absolutely no difference what the game is about. Just because a game has sexual content does not mean the rules and laws don't apply. It's not about how many nipples or more private parts are shown, it's about adding something unauthorized.
In this specific case: If content is added with her likeness she didn't agree with, she can sue, plain and simple, no matter if the game is about sex or not.
You don't really think the judge will say "put it's a porn game, what did she expect?", do you? The times where the victims could be blamed are over for a couple of years now.
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Ah, yes, she's truly a "victim" for her fictional character getting banged in a porn game and pirates and modders are all big bad criminals right?
I was talking about your inconsistency where you think certain mods are immoral meanwhile engaging with piracy which is already illegal.
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A fictional character depicting her is not her actual real life body for it to be "violated".
Someone could make an original fanart/animation of her fictional character getting banged.
Deepfake takes the person's actual real life picture/video into another IRL pornography which is completely different from a fictional character in a fictional world made of pixels. By the dumb logic of giving fictional characters "rights" that you're using, I take it you're also one of those that think lolicons in anime is "immoral"? If so, I'll save myself from wasting more of my time.
Literally right here:-
You think piracy is immoral yet you're here on a pirate site. Yeah, not going to take you seriously when you're inconsistent with your own moral standards.
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Only if you ignore all the context. Here only is a :-
See? I can ignore context as well.
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She made a deal with the dev, yes, not with us.
And I already told you why the dev shouldn't have agreed to such deal to begin with.
People can sue for anything, I'm not talking about legality here nor do I agree with such legal rights as I believe in freedom of artistic expression whether it offends someone or not.
Nope, creating art, whether it's 2D or sculpted 3D using a subject as a reference is completely different from taking someone's actual real life pictures/videos and manipulating it.
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You mean the context of where you're conflating morality with legality?
Do people have the right to fuck someone legally over digital/fictional shit?(piracy/mods/fanarts) Of course but is that really a moral thing to do just because you have the legal right to do so? Nope.
Take a look at Take-Two Interactive's history and maybe, you'll get the idea of what I'm talking about.
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Main error of developers isn't adding Doja Cat, but leaving just a small warning that she didn't had sex interactions. Nobody complained about not being able to do sex with Grumps. Then everyone complained about Doja. Why? It was revealed some pages ago: it is the *singer* "bitch I'm a cow" but Eek did like her fans were lawyers that read every small sentence in their site, instead they were outraged and did tons of negative reviews.
I am a little worried because the next update seems to be another DLC, a pornstar this time but the house is already crowded. I am worried mainly because if they get the DLC it will be more convenient for them to release every few months a DLC of 5-10 $ instead of working in the next title.
I am a little worried because the next update seems to be another DLC, a pornstar this time but the house is already crowded. I am worried mainly because if they get the DLC it will be more convenient for them to release every few months a DLC of 5-10 $ instead of working in the next title.
Where this legend come from? The only unskippable sex scene that you get regardless your choices is the one with Silverhand in the main quest. The other are tamer and come from optional romancing.
