How do you feel about males other than MC in games?

[anne O'nymous]

I have an idea. It's a pretty wild one, but I'll take the risk and share it:

What if devs just stopped to care about what few people who, anyway, would never pledges, think about their games, and just make the game they want to make, the way they want to make it ?


There's more than six fucking millions members here. Whatever the game you'll make, it will always find its public. The fact that it succeed or not isn't, and will never, be directly related to its content ; and nowadays the saturation of the market.

 

[Aesir Lust]

I have an idea. It's a pretty wild one, but I'll take the risk and share it:

What if devs just stopped to care about what few people who, anyway, would never pledges, think about their games, and just make the game they want to make, the way they want to make it ?


There's more than six fucking millions members here. Whatever the game you'll make, it will always find its public. The fact that it succeed or not isn't, and will never, be directly related to its content ; and nowadays the saturation of the market.

Top comment. I opened this thread to have a debate on one of the most discussed things related to porn games, but personally always said and always will say that my game will contain what is best for creating a rich and original plot, regardless of what people say. Suggestions always accepted of course

 

[MrSancini]

One thing that I kinda don't like is that usually other men in the games are usually the shittiest persons that ever lived, or people that we usually steal the girl because they're a piece of shit, or have zero personality.

Of course, since they (usually) aren't the main focus of the game, you don't need them to develop that much, but at least they should talk and behave like normal humans, not one-trick poneys.

 

[Nadekai]

World where MC is the chosen one aka so said single man in the world seems rather empty imo. As long as the other males keeps their hands on uninteresting females, I couldn't care less.

 

[Artemissu]

As someone who's bisexual... I'm pretty okay with it lol

Though i wish male characters weren't all rapist scumbags. As someone above pointed out, it feels like every male who's not the MC will rape a girl at the first opportunity they get. That, or they're clearly there for NTR purposes

 

[Count Morado]

I have an idea. It's a pretty wild one, but I'll take the risk and share it:

What if devs just stopped to care about what few people who, anyway, would never pledges, think about their games, and just make the game they want to make, the way they want to make it ?


There's more than six fucking millions members here. Whatever the game you'll make, it will always find its public. The fact that it succeed or not isn't, and will never, be directly related to its content ; and nowadays the saturation of the market.

Hell and there are upwards 1 billion adult video game players and adult virtual novel readers on the internet. 100 people bantering or debating or voting (if someone is lucky to get that kind of response) from a non-representative sample does nothing except raise the temperature of the room or it's an attempt to raise brand/product awareness... like The Pepsi Challenge or PC vs. Mac.

Also, you don't need to grasp the Curmudgeon Award so tightly, whippersnapper.

 

[Icarus Media]

One thing that I kinda don't like is that usually other men in the games are usually the shittiest persons that ever lived, or people that we usually steal the girl because they're a piece of shit, or have zero personality.

It would be interesting to have them as somewhat upstanding, polite and nice people, be interesting how you would implement that though.

"Hello! Might I borrow your lady friend for an evening of tea, crumpets and bum fun? Tally ho!"

 

[Dessolos]

I was thinking about this today. While I get most people play these games want to see girls more or whatever. I always thought it's a little unrealistic if you don't make enough right choices said girls doesn't chose to be in a relationship with someone else if they treat her better for instance or w/e. Now I do think said guy should be part of the story somehow otherwise could be just mentioned off screen and have the same effect. Also another thing it seems like rarely more than 1 guy friend part of the friend group sometimes I wish there was 2 or 3 when everyone hangs out together.

This last point isn't for everyone cause I believe it's NTR or w/e and people seem to hate that. I personal don't care either way if NTR is in an game, as I prefer realism or something that might make sense in the story more than any kind of lewds or w/e in these games. Maybe cause I've yet to really play any games with that in it but one thing that be nice to see once in awhile just to be different. Instead of x girl breaking up with you cause she caught you cheating maybe if you make to many wrong choices she cheats on you instead and that's how you get rid of said character don't even have to show it could just be something she tells you she did off screen. Just be nice cause it will be different from what ive seen in the AVN games ive played so far.

 

[anne O'nymous]

Also, you don't need to grasp the Curmudgeon Award so tightly, whippersnapper.

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[Liquid Tube Technology]

I echo AON's sentiment on this. One may either attempt pleasing the masses and end up with a project that seem lacking in artistic ambition, or focus on a few things that one strongly believes in and end up with a work that may become sought-after by those who have specific preferences.

With that out of the way, allow me to express my own stance on the male supporting roles in these games...

Personally, I really like it when a VN/game introduces a male character who gets to share a nonsexual but meaningful bond, a comradery, with the MC. I like that kind of brotherhood, or I guess one could say "bromance" featured in any story. Examples would iclude Liam from Acting Lessons, Chris from Leap of Faith, Stabby Mike from Once in a Lifetime, and perhaps to a lessor degree, older but sincere McCreary from Now & Then, and Ray the P.I. from Our Fate - A New Family via the gentle/kind MC path.

As for the non-MC male characters actually getting into sexual/romantic situations with the Love Interests, for me it really depends on the story and the characters. When I played DMD, it quickly became apparent that, even though D was supposed to be my primary romantic interest, I also wanted to be a good father to her as much as possible under the circumstances given in the game. This essentially made me feel compelled to allow D to experience things with someone closer to her age, such as Ryan (I guess that was his name? It's been a while) during the foursome that also involved Margo. D already was having an unconventional relationship with the MC, so I kind of wanted her to also feel like she didn't have to miss out on being with someone closer to her age group. For this reason, I did choose not to get her and other older men like Martin or Graham in sexual situations together, even though I appreciated those men as friends.

In fact, I write erotica as a hobby and I'm currently working on a novel where the MC (based on myself) has a harem of many girls. But the reality is that I can't keep up with that many girls at a time for obvious reasons, so I've actually introduced a few good-natured, trust-worthy male characters who could provide the girls with physical/sexual comfort of sorts when the MC is unable to do so. In my mind, this doesn't quite equate "cuck" or certainly not what the people on communities such as this one may refer to as "NTR", as the relationships that the MC has with these girls in his harem are not exclusive per se (although there is definitely love there). This particular "open" setting was actually inspired by one of the character models for the girls in the harem who, during the early stage of character development, conveyed to me that she would like to have access to many men as well if my character was to have his own harem. Seemed like a fair suggestion, so I have since incorporated it within the story.

So for me, this matter isn't quite clear-cut depending on whether we're strictly talking about nonsexual male supporting roles, or about those who may potentially end up with the MC's romantic partners. There are many things that may need to be taken into consideration so as to keep the story/game/VN/whatever enjoyable. But that's just me.

 

[balitz Method]

It's kinda like the women in gay games. I don't mind them appearing or I see them as competition, but some of my players don't like them appearing at least nude.

Hmmmm, a woman trying to compete against the male MC of my game for a Bisexual LI, interesting concept.

It's very underutilized, but it's hard to find bisexual games in general. I don't really count the types that are essentially sexual buffets where everything is laid out and you're allowed to pick out what you like. Those tend to follow an unwritten 'don't let the food on your plate touch' rule.

 

[DarknessDai]

i really hate games where there are no other males and its just the Holy MC , all girls fall for him , no competition nothing i really dislike them , i'd Enjoy game New Coral city , where there are other guys and girls you have to work for the girls and win against other guys , where u can share the girls if you want or keep them all for yourself this is the best way

 

[Mock1ngb1rd]

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[Deleted member 6429235]

I vote other. Because for me depends.

I have no problem, when we as the MC has a best friend and the best friend has a girlfriend.

Or like the game Solvalley School (it’s a good game by the way) where you can choose to have sex with the girl with your best friend. This is also oke. But the important is that you can choose!

Or in a game that we are stealing the girlfriends, this would be interesting. (Even though I haven't found a game like this yet)

Or like story-based game like Desert Stalker (also a fantastic game!) where it would be strange to have only female characters in the game.

To NTR games I would never play games like this. I really hate NTR games.

In the end it depends on the game and what I would to play.

 

[woody554]

if the story needs another man then the story needs another man. but if a character has no function it should be cut. like all pointless characters.

 

[Doorknob22]

The only story that I care about is that of the MCs, hence I'm not too happy about seeing other males shagging around. Not because my fragile male ego can't bear other males fucking, but because it often an indication the developer is spreading too much.

Having said that, I'm not butthurt when non-MC couples go about their pelvis grinding business if it's all in context of a solid story.

 

[Rintal]

I would play a game where the MC has a real love rival. And success in battle depends on your decisions.
But I understand that such a plot is difficult to write for an inexperienced author and that the incels will throw endless hysterics about the NTR in the game.
Anyway, in my opinion, the game can be about anything and anyone, as long as it's interesting.

 

[chainedpanda]

It generally depends. Despite being an NTR-hater, it generally depends on what role the male character has, and his personality.

To start with, actual NTR, as in the protagonist getting cucked is out of the question. I have negative interest in it. That said, scenarios involving the protagonist cucking someone else also isn't interesting to me either, just not as extreme. Just about the only form of NTR would be when the protagonist cucks one of the other love interests.

Furthermore, scenarios involving unfaithful partners, loveless relationships or abusive partners never do it for me either. These scenarios generally leave the love interest as more "mediocre" as far as I'm concerned. I don't dislike them most of the time, but these scenarios just don't do it for me. Rather it's a fundamental reason, or just over exposure, I have no clue. It's just something I've noticed over time.

When it comes to best friend characters, I strongly dislike perverted ones. Especially in incest games where the friend pervs on the protags family. Although, to be fair, I also dislike pervy protagonists. I generally hate protagonists who see their mom in the shower and act like it's the greatest day of their lives. That said, there have been a fair number of best friends in games that I generally did like. Even though I can't seem to remember any at this time.

As for other male characters, such as fathers, uncles, barkeepers, old men, gay friends, underlings etc. I generally have no issues with them. Unless they enter into the pervy territory or theres a hint at some sort of love rivalry sort of situation. Ideally, just make the character gay, asexual, or give them a relationship from the start of the game and there would be no issue.

 

[Deleted member 4771842]

Well, I'm okay with other males, until there is NTR.
Why do people even need it? in fact, we are already degenerate enough to peep, since we look at someone else's intimate activity (any kind of porn, erotic scenes basically), but peeping at your cheating girlfriend? Makes no sense...

 

[Rododendron3322]

I don't mind other male fucking in a AVN's, it's even better in some way, coz for me it was always like little strange that only MC is getting all the action in a world, and rest men doesn't... Like all men doesn't have a dicks or something? Plus MC have all the girls in a world, full harem, and they all are ok with him having multiple girls and don't even think about other dicks. That is strange for me.
Don't get me wrong, I like harem games, I like multiple girls at once and I HATE netorare and cheating. But sharing, is ok, is fine, heck, sometimes even hot. FFM, MMF, MFMF or whole orgy with many guys and girls.
I have this idea that I hope I gonna realize someday. To create AVN about family, where everyone fuck (except gay sex, not for me) with each other, and they know about this, and love it, and doesn't mind. I will do it someday.