VN Ren'Py How to Fix the Future [v0.3.2] [mr.moonmi]

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Will Octavia have a sub route or is she Purely in the Vanilla/Dom side of thing? (By Sub route I mean where she is the submissive)

 

[Deleted member 3208170]

I really liked the last scene with Octavia and Liu. I play the MC as a very obedient guy though. Don't know how it plays out for people who aren't like that. Anyway the last scene was very well done from a femdom perspective. One of the best I saw in a not exclusively femdom game. Was very glad that we could

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Hope for the future we can "out-sub" Liu a bit and maybe give her a taste of what it feels like to be on top once in a while. Also became a Patreon now. Really looking forward to see more.

At least your femdom guys are happy, good to you.

Yeah it's really annoying and one of the main problems a lot of games seem to have when they give the player Dom/sub choices.

Since at the end of the day the main story plot has to move on and it's a lot of work to write different dialogues for MC based on the choices you pick, so you end up with an MC with an almost "Schizophrenic" personality who at one point is defiant and resistant and the next is meek and submissive.

Yes 100% agree.

Devs should look what story they wanted to tell and quartering to specific niches and be honest with that. Maledom when will that happen, 2022/23.
My only anchor of hope is this girl.

 

[Hmm...]

Octavia is a bossy president of a future corp/government with a dominative nature. Either you like it or not, but she's the boss there. Yet, you still can show your independent nature. And after some choices, Octavia sees this in you, and tells you that she could go easy on you, but you still have to show her respect. Kind of a compromise. That's why MC calls her Madam Octavia, even if you aren't a sub. This is more like an expression of respect, not submission.

At this moment, you can take a route where you are her sub, or refuse it and move towards a dom route where you'll still be able to avoid even that. It's just very hard to consider every choice and route. So think about it like this: There is a main story where Octavia is who she is. Your choices won't affect too much on that. And there are a couple of routes with lewd scenes. Where either sub or dom path will affect on those. Maybe the scene with Liu and Octavia isn't much about domination, but it's more about Octavia giving you some freedom and testing you.

You may think that this game is all about domination, but that's just because everything revolves around Octavia in the future. It's more than that. And after some character and relationship development, everything will become clearer. You can avoid femdom route, but you can't just change how the things work in this world. Other's will still respect and obey Octavia. Besides, her character is very complicated. It’s gonna take a lot of time to really reveal her character. And I hope, some of you gonna change their impression about her

I refer to my previous addendum. As it stands when playing a defiant character, I see no reason to show Octavia any respect whatsoever. There isn't even the worry of self-preservation, as she needs the MC a lot more than he needs her.

 

[Vrijgeest]

What is with all the complaints? JFCOAPS It is a story written by a dev. It is his story and he decides where it goes unless he asks other wise.

Well I enjoyed it and are looking forward to the next update.

 

[Deleted member 3208170]

What is with all the complaints? JFCOAPS It is a story written by a dev. It is his story and he decides where it goes unless he asks other wise.

Yes, of course it is, and nobody forces him to anything. Seriously this sentence. The dev is free to do what he wants. It becomes very old. It is in every thread. Where is some harmless discussion going on.
Of course, he is free to do, as we are free to write down our opinion in such a forum.

 

[vultron]

I refer to my previous addendum. As it stands when playing a defiant character, I see no reason to show Octavia any respect whatsoever. There isn't even the worry of self-preservation, as she needs the MC a lot more than he needs her.

I agree but Octavia will probably just threaten people she doesn't need to get mc to show at least a modicum of respect assuming you care about those other characters not suffering.

 

[Hmm...]

What is with all the complaints? JFCOAPS It is a story written by a dev. It is his story and he decides where it goes unless he asks other wise.

Well I enjoyed it and are looking forward to the next update.

What a wonderful contribution to the discussion. Why does anyone criticize art ever? Why does anyone think about story-telling and how it could be done better? Why are you criticizing people's criticisms?

 

[Vrijgeest]

Yes, of course it is, and nobody forces him to anything. Seriously this sentence. The dev is free to do what he wants. It becomes very old. It is in every thread. Where is some harmless discussion going on.
Of course, he is free to do, as we are free to write down our opinion in such a forum.

It is not opinions though is it? They are demands; "I dont like....".

 

[Rory Smith]

Octavia is a bossy president of a future corp/government with a dominative nature. Either you like it or not, but she's the boss there. Yet, you still can show your independent nature. And after some choices, Octavia sees this in you, and tells you that she could go easy on you, but you still have to show her respect. Kind of a compromise. That's why MC calls her Madam Octavia, even if you aren't a sub. This is more like an expression of respect, not submission.

At this moment, you can take a route where you are her sub, or refuse it and move towards a dom route where you'll still be able to avoid even that. It's just very hard to consider every choice and route. So think about it like this: There is a main story where Octavia is who she is. Your choices won't affect too much on that. And there are a couple of routes with lewd scenes. Where either sub or dom path will affect on those. Maybe the scene with Liu and Octavia isn't much about domination, but it's more about Octavia giving you some freedom and testing you.

You may think that this game is all about domination, but that's just because everything revolves around Octavia in the future. It's more than that. And after some character and relationship development, everything will become clearer. You can avoid femdom route, but you can't just change how the things work in this world. Other's will still respect and obey Octavia. Besides, her character is very complicated. It’s gonna take a lot of time to really reveal her character. And I hope, some of you gonna change their impression about her

Mr.moonmi.
Can u add trigger switch for turning ON or Off tran content ?

 

[Frosty2000]

Devs should look what story they wanted to tell and quartering to specific niches and be honest with that. Maledom when will that happen, 2022/23.

You definitely can combine both. If done right it makes the game way better, since it gives more meaning to your choices. Karlsson Gambit for example does it quite well I think, and even though it is a dedicated femdom game, it has a good amount of maledom guys playing and enjoying it too.
How Moonmi will handle it we have to see. From my perspective it looks good so far, but yeah you will never please everyone. Like people who are into a more hardcore kind of maledom will probably never accept any woman in authority in this game.

 

[Rinbael]

Maybe the scene with Liu and Octavia isn't much about domination, but it's more about Octavia giving you some freedom and testing you.

My question is are you still going to be forced into have lewd scenes with Octavia and Liu if you are not interested in them or will you have an option to reject anymore scenes with them.

This is indeed a problem in a lot of games. Personally I see it often from the other side. One option let's you be nice and caring and a short time later comes an unavoidable sex scene, which makes the MC look like a rapist.

Anyway best way to handle it imho is to write the general dialogue in a more neutral way and give options to avoid certain sex scenes. Like in the first release I had no sex scene, since I avoided Liu giving a blowjob to the MC. There was even a line referring to that in this updates last sex scene. Thought that was very well done.
Maybe also just have some simple flavour choices, which doesn't effect the main plot, but lets your MC stay in character.

Yeah I don't like femdom and I'm not particularly fond of male dom either I just don't like playing a submissive character. The problem is you can make choices in game to reject Liu and a choice to say you aren't interested in "using" her or becoming her "master" but you end up being forced into doing so anyway.

My only anchor of hope is this girl.

Yeah I really liked Olga in the first release and like her even more after this one she's really likable and just seems to have to put up with her boss's shit just because it's her job. The scene where she catches the MC and says she has to "punish" him I was worried then she just asks him to move some boxes made me really like her.

 

[Hmm...]

I agree but Octavia will probably just threaten people she doesn't need to get mc to show at least a modicum of respect assuming you care about those other characters not suffering.

Why should the MC care about any of the characters he's met? They are all apart of the operation that kidnapped him. Even then, despite her flaws Octavia hasn't shown herself to be that kind of person. Arrogant and full of herself, yes, but not necessarily an intentional villain willing to hurt people who have nothing to do with the MC's defiance.

 

[Vrijgeest]

What a wonderful contribution to the discussion. Why does anyone criticize art ever? Why does anyone think about story-telling and how it could be done better? Why are you criticizing people's criticisms?

There is no discussion just childish demands. It my right to criticise just the same as you do. If I find the criticisms so childish I will say so.

 

[Deleted member 3208170]

... will probably never accept any woman in authority in this game.

A woman with authority, yes, but her. I don't know. The world is dying, and the only thing she cares is that he is loyal or even obedient. That's at the moment the only thing she cares. No arguments, only threats.

 

[Hmm...]

You definitely can combine both. If done right it makes the game way better, since it gives more meaning to your choices. Karlsson Gambit for example does it quite well I think, and even though it is a dedicated femdom game, it has a good amount of maledom guys playing and enjoying it too.
How Moonmi will handle it we have to see. From my perspective it looks good so far, but yeah you will never please everyone. Like people who are into a more hardcore kind of maledom will probably never accept any woman in authority in this game.

I heartily agree with you. My main issue so far would be with how the story starts. Kidnapping and drugging someone before forcing them into some agent program hardly seems like a proper way to get into the good graces of a supposed "Chosen One". It is the defiant options that feel half-baked, not necessarily maledom. One part I actually quite enjoyed was that Octavia took notice of how I refused to be dominated yet also refused to dominate. I wasn't expecting that outcome.

Edit: While the defiant options feel half-baked, I think the best fix to it would be to not give us so many reasons to be defiant. It is a common issue among story writers, many struggle with starting the adventure. This is one reason the "Chosen One" trope is so commonly used. The issue I see here is that the MC is given little reason to actually participate in the story, while also given plenty of reasons to be distrustful of or even actively opposed to the people he is supposed to save, and every time we hit the railroad of the story by being defiant we are given yet more reasons to be defiant. Such as when we refuse to just be taken to our room after being kidnapped, they immediately drug us to knock us out.

 

["CJ"]

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You're welcome!

 

[Frosty2000]

Yeah I really liked Olga in the first release and like her even more after this one she's really likable and just seems to have to put up with her boss's shit just because it's her job. The scene where she catches the MC and says she has to "punish" him I was worried then she just asks him to move some boxes made me really like her.

I agree that having an option to opt out of anything sexual would be better there. Since I only play the sub route I wasn't sure if you could deny Madam president. Hmm I think Moonmi thought about doing that though. So he might put it in an update.

My idea here would be that it could be also a trigger for Olga. Like in the sub route when

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where she catches the MC and says she has to "punish" him I was worried then she just asks him to move some boxes made me really like her.

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[vultron]

Why should the MC care about any of the characters he's met? They are all apart of the operation that kidnapped him. Even then, despite her flaws Octavia hasn't shown herself to be that kind of person. Arrogant and full of herself, yes, but not necessarily an intentional villain willing to hurt people who have nothing to do with the MC's defiance.

Because it's a porn game and the player is going to want to fuck somebody that's why you will care unless you intend to play the entire game while keeping mc's dick completely dry which sounds profoundly boring.

Also you don't become the domineering head of a corporate government by not hurting people it would be quite naïve to think she wouldn't torture or kill to get what she wants.

She already kidnapped you torture and murder are only a few steps away.

 

[Thedude715]

futa is a hard pass

Why go into the thread of a game with a futa tag just to post that? lol