First up, just lurk more around the "Dev Help" and "Programming, Developmnet, Art" subforums to learn what other people are doing.
Second, read the link in my signature "Winterfire's Talentless Guide" - it was initially written as a joke but is actually one of the better concise guides.
I second that, it's a great compendium of knowledge to get you sorted and give you some pointers where to go from here.
Regardless of the route you take, having any "quality" images in your game will take a lot of time.
For hand-drawn art, it's the time to do the drawings.
For 3d renders, the time to set scenes/lighting/poses/render/post-work.
For AI image generation, the time to repeatedly refine your prompts and settings, and then editing/inpainting the results to fix the inevitable errors.
One of the big differences between them is how much time it takes to "get good". Longest would be learning to actually draw. Shortest would be learning the AI gen tools. But also note that doing AI gen does have a cost - you need quite powerful GPU and system.
The other thing to consider is how important "quality" images are to your project. Is it better to never create a game because you can't afford to create/buy the art you want? Or is it better to make a project with art that is not really as "good" as you want?
What do you like about games? Is is story? is it specific fetishes? is it the style of game (stat-grinder, vs VN, vs platformer with game-over-rape scenes)? Would a game with good story and the fetish you like still be considered "a favourite" if it had poor images?
Not every game type is appealing to every person. Clearly there are lots of people who like beautiful graphics but shallow, shitty, stories because they sell quite well on steam. But for me that sort of game is like low-quality McDonalds food - unsatisfying.
For hand-drawn art, it's the time to do the drawings.
For 3d renders, the time to set scenes/lighting/poses/render/post-work.
For AI image generation, the time to repeatedly refine your prompts and settings, and then editing/inpainting the results to fix the inevitable errors.
One of the big differences between them is how much time it takes to "get good". Longest would be learning to actually draw. Shortest would be learning the AI gen tools. But also note that doing AI gen does have a cost - you need quite powerful GPU and system.
The other thing to consider is how important "quality" images are to your project. Is it better to never create a game because you can't afford to create/buy the art you want? Or is it better to make a project with art that is not really as "good" as you want?
What do you like about games? Is is story? is it specific fetishes? is it the style of game (stat-grinder, vs VN, vs platformer with game-over-rape scenes)? Would a game with good story and the fetish you like still be considered "a favourite" if it had poor images?
Not every game type is appealing to every person. Clearly there are lots of people who like beautiful graphics but shallow, shitty, stories because they sell quite well on steam. But for me that sort of game is like low-quality McDonalds food - unsatisfying.
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well cannot agree more. If you play a game w characters there is has to be something and yes ppl love sex dolls over personality but the ppl still loves the second one more, otherwise bein a DIC couldnt be the best on board for years here.
I have another thing to ask: lets say I learned to make bodies on blender and did a...idk... a thick latina milf witch curvy hairs. whats the next process after the create the model ? am I just gonna screenshot it ? or can I add a skeleton on it and can animate how I want ?
You'll have to setup a skeleton so you can animate it. That process is called Rigging.
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Hello, piggybacking off of this thread to ask a quick question about Virt-a-mate.
If I am not interested in creating VR works or the interactive functionalities of VaM, is there any reason to use it for creating animations instead of Blender?
I was initially interested in VaM because I was drawn to some of the models I've seen in various VaM works, but it looks like they can be easily exported and used in other environments. I am very new to 3D art and am pretty much set on the Blender route, but I wanted to make sure I wasn't missing anything regarding VaM. Seeing all of these different ecosystems feels overwhelming when I have no clue what I'm doing in the first place @_@
If I am not interested in creating VR works or the interactive functionalities of VaM, is there any reason to use it for creating animations instead of Blender?
I was initially interested in VaM because I was drawn to some of the models I've seen in various VaM works, but it looks like they can be easily exported and used in other environments. I am very new to 3D art and am pretty much set on the Blender route, but I wanted to make sure I wasn't missing anything regarding VaM. Seeing all of these different ecosystems feels overwhelming when I have no clue what I'm doing in the first place @_@
- Apr 6, 2021
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VAM is easier to use :
- it's designed to be used by gamers and creators. In just a few hours, you can understand the principles of the software and start creating scenes.
- If you have a VR headset, you'll be able to animate everything by being in the scene yourself, moving bones by hand, etc., which makes things much simpler.
- VAM handles collisions and physics automatically. This makes it much easier to avoid clipping between models, manage 'bounces' and so on.
However, I can't really recommend it for rendering images/animations.
While you can do pretty things, you'll very quickly be limited by VAM (especially in terms of lighting quality).
Blender, on the other hand, will be harder to get started with, but it will never limit your progress and you'll be able to reach an excellent level if you stick with it.
Please note that if you start with Blender, it's probably not worth trying to export VAM models to Blender. You might as well use Daz directly (which is where the VAM models come from in the first place) and export the models to Blender, or use models already made for Blender, such as those you can find on
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(beware of licenses, though).It's up to you, depending on your goal.
You could, for example, choose to make your first game with VAM to concentrate on the essentials, and later move on to Blender, for example.
Or you could opt for an 'in-between' approach and use Daz instead.
I also had the same question awhile back because I wanted to create animations/stills for a potential game using VaM. I originally started out with Honey Select 2, which works but I saw some future issues with doing more unique animations and the support is very lack luster. Then I found VaM, which is great for creating scenes and has plenty of assets and guides available. Though the issue I had with VaM for creating animations was that there's a limit of how much control you have. And like what AlternateDreams pointed out:
Is what I found that VaM lacks for creating animations/content. Granted if you want to get your feet wet and learn some basics and have everything in once spot I'd recommend VaM (there's also a decent version on this site). I still hop on it to mess around, and create scenes within VaM. Just depends on what you're trying to do in the end.