RPGM Partial [思い出し笑い] Violated Princess (A VH-Game Spin off)

[Chadthefitvirginlvl28]

This game made me realize that way too many H-Games don't have a serious enough tone. The rapes and loss of freedom were so much more impactful from a story telling perspective because of the time taken to flesh out the characters and also not making them turn into mind broken sluts after being raped. I'm sure we've all seen countless heroines raped and impregnated, but with Erika everyone desperately wanted to at least prevent her from the horror of carrying and giving birth to a rapist's child. That's all due to making her a likeable character with a story, and how she reacts to her trauma.

The buildup is painfully slow but its necessary to make the bad things that happen have weight behind them, otherwise you're just waiting for the dumb repressed sluts to have their "true self" revealed through rape. I think another nice touch was really putting pressure on the player for wanting to remain pure. I think its important in these games with a purity/slut route to make the purity route more challenging, you should really feel like "damn, sucking dick for money would make this a whole lot easier", and this game does that well by forcing you to make money but having non sexual opportunities less lucrative. It sounds so simple but I think few games hit the mark with this and typically don't make it challenging enough or tempting enough.

 

[Xaoskun]

This game made me realize that way too many H-Games don't have a serious enough tone. The rapes and loss of freedom were so much more impactful from a story telling perspective because of the time taken to flesh out the characters and also not making them turn into mind broken sluts after being raped. I'm sure we've all seen countless heroines raped and impregnated, but with Erika everyone desperately wanted to at least prevent her from the horror of carrying and giving birth to a rapist's child. That's all due to making her a likeable character with a story, and how she reacts to her trauma.

The buildup is painfully slow but its necessary to make the bad things that happen have weight behind them, otherwise you're just waiting for the dumb repressed sluts to have their "true self" revealed through rape. I think another nice touch was really putting pressure on the player for wanting to remain pure. I think its important in these games with a purity/slut route to make the purity route more challenging, you should really feel like "damn, sucking dick for money would make this a whole lot easier", and this game does that well by forcing you to make money but having non sexual opportunities less lucrative. It sounds so simple but I think few games hit the mark with this and typically don't make it challenging enough or tempting enough.

Well said, this is something I've also wanted to put into words for a while now.

 

[Giulio96]

Are there any skills or gear upgrades or stuff I've been missing ?

I am not sure I am supposed to keep on dealing such little damage and fight 10+ orcs by Z punching them in such tight enviroments .

I recall Serena having magic in VH and sometimes the guild dude sometimes mentions ranged combat when Serena asks for suggestions about how to tackle a quest .

I get that some fights are supposed to be boss fights ( dagger kid , whip lady , etc ) but even then...it feels like it's taking me ages to down my opponents by now .

I also don't quite get what MP are used for so far since I haven't unlocked any spells .

 

[ranashadow]

Are there any skills or gear upgrades or stuff I've been missing ?

I am not sure I am supposed to keep on dealing such little damage and fight 10+ orcs by Z punching them in such tight enviroments .

I recall Serena having magic in VH and sometimes the guild dude sometimes mentions ranged combat when Serena asks for suggestions about how to tackle a quest .

I get that some fights are supposed to be boss fights ( dagger kid , whip lady , etc ) but even then...it feels like it's taking me ages to down my opponents by now .

I also don't quite get what MP are used for so far since I haven't unlocked any spells .

Your not reading the tutorial properly.

Serena has 2 attacks, a short range and a long range (fills about 8 tiles in frontal direction)

She has a short range which is like a magical force palm, hitting enemies can usually stun smaller enemies like wolves, goblins, bats, so hit them, walk forward, hit again and you will stun-lock them, pushing them into a wall making for an easy kill. Orcs and ropers dont get stunned, so always hit them from a distance.

Her long range you have to keep hold of the attack button, when she flashes once, let go and you will unleash her long range attack, keeping hold of it for too long uses up more mana but it also shields her from attacks but dont rely on the shield. Keep your MP up, ideally you dont want to use any MP if you want to save money and for a virgin run. If you run out of MP her wrist bands will disappear and be converted into MP and same with her magical apparatus.

She also has a back dash too in case enemies get too close but I hardly used it, once you get used to how enemies move you can defeat them quite easily, its also better to kettle enemies together and if they are bunched up together, do a long range attack and you get strike about 3 enemies in one shot, just remember its only about 4 tiles long.

There's nothing really to power up your attack, you will level up almost in each area, the levelling up system is sort of scripted, all enemies are quite weak apart from boss enemies like the huge Pigman, Ganelon, Stallion.

Be warned boss enemies can usually initiate a charge attack so they will charge about 8 tiles long and sometimes do another right after missing.

Ganelon is easiest, just hide behind the big chair and keep hitting him at the right moment, if you hit him hard enough be prepared to dash away 2 titles to the left or right because he usually does a shockwave attack when being hit hard, just keep him in front of that chair and he's easy pickings.

Try not to rely on the long range attack much because you want to save your MP for the battles where enemies are bunched up

 

[mikhail fernandez]

Guyz how to play this game in android

 

[WhiteLord96]

She's getting raped I don't think you enjoy rape. That's what I like about VP, it's treated like how it should be, traumatizing.

Yeah after getting into kebeman the difference in tone between this game is more noticeable. Serena in the VH and by extension its sub versions is notably less phased by the ordeal. Though another thing is VH Serena is notably more bratty and abit arrogant. Where as in VP she holds herself to be more refined and is more of a tragic character for how much focus is put on her status as an nobles daughter. Where as in VH her status as a novel is largely ignored as flavor text.

 

[Violated Princess]

Yeah after getting into kebeman the difference in tone between this game is more noticeable. Serena in the VH and by extension its sub versions is notably less phased by the ordeal. Though another thing is VH Serena is notably more bratty and abit arrogant. Where as in VP she holds herself to be more refined and is more of a tragic character for how much focus is put on her status as an nobles daughter. Where as in VH her status as a novel is largely ignored as flavor text.

Probably because Serena as a character wasn't fleshed out entirely when she hit VH, the game was still(and probably will always be) in an unfinished state, no need for a fully fleshed out character story when you're just trying to get a character into the coding. That being said I'd love to see VP done in a full Katteban fashion....

 

[hartewun]

She's getting raped I don't think you enjoy rape. That's what I like about VP, it's treated like how it should be, traumatizing.

yeah but theres no choice in it...VH is all about you making decisions and character development...VP is more like a series of episodes in which serena has the same reaction. it just kinda gets old

 

[ranashadow]

VH and VP are just 2 completely different games. You could argue VP is just a spin-off from VH. The dev kind of made a mistake by shoehorning Nanako at the ending of VP but at the same time VH wasnt even finished, it just kept going until the wheels fell off and the engine became outdated and obsolete. I just dont think we can keep comparing both Serena's, same character design just completely different personalities.

As for what the dev will do next, he will probably go back to VH and recreate it using the latest RPGEngine or create something new. Going back to VH would probably be a bad idea because it was never finished anyway so he would have to streamline it and make it linear so he knows where to start and finish, instead of adding more and more over the months and get bored.

I would say make something new, new character, new setting.

 

[Longhairlover010]

Any info if there will be any manual translation or is chatgpt mtl the only option? I'm holding off on a better translation but don't know if it will happen.

 

[hartewun]

VH and VP are just 2 completely different games. You could argue VP is just a spin-off from VH. The dev kind of made a mistake by shoehorning Nanako at the ending of VP but at the same time VH wasnt even finished, it just kept going until the wheels fell off and the engine became outdated and obsolete. I just dont think we can keep comparing both Serena's, same character design just completely different personalities.

As for what the dev will do next, he will probably go back to VH and recreate it using the latest RPGEngine or create something new. Going back to VH would probably be a bad idea because it was never finished anyway so he would have to streamline it and make it linear so he knows where to start and finish, instead of adding more and more over the months and get bored.

I would say make something new, new character, new setting.

this is completely wrong, the creator of VP has nothing to do with VH anymore. there is a community of people working on VH. VH was never intended to be 'finished', it was and is always going to be a sandbox.

 

[Print1727]

As for what the dev will do next, he will probably go back to VH and recreate it using the latest RPGEngine or create something new.

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[gorjak]

VH and VP are just 2 completely different games. You could argue VP is just a spin-off from VH. The dev kind of made a mistake by shoehorning Nanako at the ending of VP but at the same time VH wasnt even finished, it just kept going until the wheels fell off and the engine became outdated and obsolete. I just dont think we can keep comparing both Serena's, same character design just completely different personalities.

As for what the dev will do next, he will probably go back to VH and recreate it using the latest RPGEngine or create something new. Going back to VH would probably be a bad idea because it was never finished anyway so he would have to streamline it and make it linear so he knows where to start and finish, instead of adding more and more over the months and get bored.

I would say make something new, new character, new setting.

Between the Nanako cameo suggesting some continuity with VH (and Erika having a slightly larger role than she did in the plot of VP), VP's profitability, VH already having an MV version made by others as indicated by other posters, and Waru still creating & integrating Serena content for this game - I think another Serena-centric game by him sometime in the future is not only pretty likely, but that there's a better than even chance it'll take the form of a 'complete' VH Katteban on a more modern engine. Judging from a quick look at his Ci-en Waru sure doesn't seem like he's going to stop making stuff for Serena any time soon, or if he does it won't be for long.

Such a thing would probably have to be a Serena-only game too, since not only does it seem obvious that the dev's particularly attached to Serena above the rest of the VH cast (who would work for 15+ years on projects centered on a character they don't care about?) & darker themes of violation to go with her (Katteban - itself already centered on Serena alone IIRC - was already going in a grimmer direction than VH proper long before VP was announced after all), but having to add complete plotlines for the other VH girls would doubtless add tons of time & work to the development process. Or outright make it impossible to ever really 'finish' altogether, like VH-proper was/is. If Nanako or the other VH cast do crop up in a finished 'MV Katteban', them filling a secondary role like Erika's in VP seems a lot more likely than them being fully playable characters with their own stories like they were in VH.

All my above speculation aside though, and although VP itself is IMO a respectable stepping stone toward a larger & more ambitious project like the above. I wouldn't expect him to tackle a project of that scale (or possibly even VP's) for quite a while. Seems he'll be pretty content with just integrating other creators' mods and making small additions of his own to VP for the foreseeable future, if the Ci-en's any indicator.

 

[Chadthefitvirginlvl28]

I'm happy for the lolicons who have a GOTY quality game but damn I wish there were more scenes with the other girls.

 

[Violated Princess]

I'm happy for the lolicons who have a GOTY quality game but damn I wish there were more scenes with the other girls.

Then go find a dev who caters more to what you want, let the Serena fans have this one.

 

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[ranashadow]

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I believe that part is fixed in the scene but I dont think it counts as a 'defilement' because you are at the ending. If the Pony nuzzles against Serena thats the Virgin Ending. If you were defiled during the course of the game the pony still respond negatively and start to kick Serena, thats the non-virgin ending.

I believe the Good-Virgin Ending is where Erika isnt pregnant.
Virgin Ending is the same only Erika is pregnant

The ending is mostly staging for Nanako to enter, even though I dont think this is how Nanako meets the characters. On VH, Erika finds Nanako passed out near a water-stream and nurses her back to health

 

[ranashadow]

Right so have I got this right;

VH - Long demo based on Nanako (very buggy and broken)
VH Kettaban - Long Demo based on Serena
VHVM - A remake of VH using a newer version of RPG-Maker? (Still demo, still broken and buggy)
VP - Fully finished game based on Serena (Slightly buggy)

Im getting exhausted dealing with this game. Its like a half finished version of Oblivion full of mods and fan-fixes trying to get it to work with so many versions.

Whats worse is they are bloated. You need to do certain tricks to get VH to work because its old and in Japanese, using App Locale does work but again your dealing with a unfinished buggy game. As I said its bloated - there must be at least 7,000 files in VH

 

[gorjak]

Right so have I got this right;

VH - Long demo based on Nanako (very buggy and broken)
VH Kettaban - Long Demo based on Serena
VHVM - A remake of VH using a newer version of RPG-Maker? (Still demo, still broken and buggy)
VP - Fully finished game based on Serena (Slightly buggy)

Im getting exhausted dealing with this game. Its like a half finished version of Oblivion full of mods and fan-fixes trying to get it to work with so many versions.

Whats worse is they are bloated. You need to do certain tricks to get VH to work because its old and in Japanese, using App Locale does work but again your dealing with a unfinished buggy game. As I said its bloated - there must be at least 7,000 files in VH

Don't forget the untranslated VH Rosemary, which was forked as a Serena-only scene viewer with some new scenes. (I assume Rosemary just got sick of trying to get the gameplay done right in RPGMaker 2000, easier just to focus 100% on the H-scenes.) It seems to have actually still been worked on until very recently: the latest update, 1.07a, dates to autumn of 2023 according to the Mediafire upload date. But from the blog Rosemary seems to have moved on to VP modding, unsure whether that's a temporary or permanent decision (meaning abandonment of VH-Rosemary from now on).

But yes, VH is supremely bloated with files, quite a few of which aren't even in use. There's BDSM content from a dev named 'Gaijin-B', for example, which was clearly never implemented but still eats up space. I think that comes with the territory of its development process though. This was bound to happen when you have a revolving door of devs over so many years, who just cropped up when they could to contribute whatever they liked and then disappear due to some circumstance or other, and who didn't always agree with one another.

Ah well. As someone who stumbled on one of the earlier English translations all the way back in 2012 or so, when the game was even less complete than it is now (I recall the entirety of Eisen wasn't translated back then for instance, and more of Serena's stuff as well) I enjoyed it for what it was. But it was tough enough to work with back then when RPGMaker 2000 was still 'just' a decade-ish out of date, and I can't imagine how much of a PITA it must be trying to get it to work & worse still, to have a smooth experience in it today. Little wonder both the VH-MV devs and Waru have decided to just start fresh on a more modern engine.

 

[hartewun]

Right so have I got this right;

VH - Long demo based on Nanako (very buggy and broken)
VH Kettaban - Long Demo based on Serena
VHVM - A remake of VH using a newer version of RPG-Maker? (Still demo, still broken and buggy)
VP - Fully finished game based on Serena (Slightly buggy)

Im getting exhausted dealing with this game. Its like a half finished version of Oblivion full of mods and fan-fixes trying to get it to work with so many versions.

Whats worse is they are bloated. You need to do certain tricks to get VH to work because its old and in Japanese, using App Locale does work but again your dealing with a unfinished buggy game. As I said its bloated - there must be at least 7,000 files in VH

VH is not a "demo". It's got by far the most content, and most playable characters, out of any of these games.