I think one reason why there're so many incest Daz3d games is that it's hard to explain MC's exposure to many females unless they are...

[F22232425]

I think one reason why there're so many incest Daz3d games is that it's hard to explain MC's exposure to many females unless they're living under the same roof and therefore they're related.

Due to the dominating number of DAZ3D everyday(Modern setting) assets,
it's easier to create a modern setting game while harder to create a fatansy/sci-fi adventure game.

So in modern setting, if the MC is a young lad,
he would probably live with his mom and two sisters in the incest game.

As for games that focus on 1 to 1 relationship,
the developer may actually take the risk that the game will become short or players may not like the character.
And thus many LI girls are made into one game for player to choose.

However, be it the corruption-based or dating-based game,
it sometimes also end up MC getting in touch with many females at a time and therefore ending up fucking everyone....

And the problems with these games are once the incest relationship is completed, it's hard to move forward the story.
So in those games, developers tend to prolong this process, but this has also made the ending predicable.

 

[DuniX]

What happened to the tried and true High School/University Setting?
The Truth is like Freud used to say, developers just want to fuck their mothers.

 

[Mr. Lemonade]

I think it's just easier. How do you make incest content? Tell the player "These two characters are related" - Done and done. Instant fetish. It's one of the few fetishes that isn't strictly visual.

 

[jackbau3r]

What happened to the tried and true High School/University Setting?
The Truth is like Freud used to say, developers just want to fuck their mothers.

I find it hard to believe that the developers of these games would have as good looking mothers than the models in these games. That would almost certainly mean that the best genes in the globe are gathered here around this forum?!

 

[Volta]

I agree to a certain extent with the idea that it's just easier to explain, however i think it's a combination of things including:
Daz reasons:
- more contemporary and modern assets, totally true on that one
- Lower different environments, especially if the game largely takes place inside one house, therefore less assets to get and less time spent dressing sets (this is actually quite time consuming).
- A modern setting means far more indoor shots, which means artificial lighting. Artificial lighting is more forgiving in Daz compared to realistic lighting and "natural" lighting, less constraints in lighting set up means either easier shot setup or "better" renders or both, basocaly a modern setting brings modern lighting, which is easier than fantasy gloom or sci-fi glow.

Incest reasons:
- Simple relationship setup with little explanation required, easy.
- The rise of incest to prominence in other media, not just porn, i'm looking at you GoT.
- Variety of women available from day 1, a younger girl, an older girl and a milf right away gives more people a chance to find something they like and gives the MC a reason to be close to them before anything happens.
- Circumvents many of the conventional problems with adult dating sims, early access to the sexy stuff is alleviated with peep, physical closeness is explained by familial closeness, living conditions similarly are explained away.
- Known audience, anything effective will be emulated due to less perceived risk, you only need to look to fiction, TV drama's, Film, Anime, Music, hell anything marketable.

One final note, i remember reading a comment somewhere that said something like "lets admit it, step incest is the last bastion of vanilla straight porn" i think this is interesting as a comment alone but it makes a good point in relation to games or anything adult and fetishised, people slot games into a singular fetish mostly, it's a game over rape game, a mind control game, an NTR game ect. i think that by using incest as the primary fetish it leaves your options open in a lot of ways while, still filling the obligatory "primary fetish" slot, you can then work each individual girl for a given fetish, dominance, loli, submission, rough, whatever floats your boat, much like in a conventional date sim, just without that "oh just another date sim" thing.

 

[polywog]

What happened to the tried and true High School/University Setting?
The Truth is like Freud used to say, developers just want to fuck their mothers.

Freud and his mother shared a bed, right up until she died.

 

[kytee]

I think the thread title is completely wrong when it comes to why devs make incest games. Plausible exposure to girls is the least of a devs concern. After all, if you were really concerned about it, all you have to do is not create an incest patch and the all too common landlady and roommates scenario would actually be realistic as I'm pretty sure guys and girls live together as roommates in real life. Adding on to that, it's way harder to explain why you havs a son/father trying to fuck his daughters/sisters/mother if you decide to go the incest route anyways. Have you ever thought that maybe devs make incest games because people like it?

 

[fenelia]

Uh, no? I like the taboo nature of it. It's creepy and weird, and it ought to be. Genetics is genetics. There's always going to be a forbidden aspect to it, and forbidden is fantasy.

Fantasy makes for GOOD fiction! It's precisely because it's weird that makes it fascinating.

You want real sex? Then go out.

I'd say that it's the functioning of a normal sex life that regular romantic sex is less appealing to write into a fiction. It's because the devs get plenty of straight sex that incest becomes more interesting to them.

 

[megaplayboy10k]

One thing not mentioned is, games are supposed to be at least moderately challenging, or else if they're too easy, some people will complain that it was boring or uninteresting. Nailing a blood relative is definitely a greater challenge than dating that girl sitting next to you in Geometry class, even greater than nailing your Geometry teacher.
The taboo aspect is a turnon for some/many as well.
It also provides a rationale for living in proximity to a hot MILF and hot younger women.
And the MC can spend loads and loads of time building intimacy without looking like a stalker.

I tend to see things in terms of "social circles". For example "main character's family" is a social circle, "mc sister's friends" is another social circle, "mc mom's friends", "cheerleaders", "teachers", "strange group of nuns", "biker gang girls", "mc classmates", "cheerleaders moms", etc. It makes it easy to map out the interrelationship of characters and the main character. And the player can think of themselves as a "collector"--sleep with every member of the social circle to "check them off"(Achievement unlocked!).

the adult game about the guy who dated 2 or 3 girls his own age sequentially before settling in with one and having vanilla sex with her strangely hasn't caught fire on Patreon.

 

[DownTheDrain]

After all, if you were really concerned about it, all you have to do is not create an incest patch and the all too common landlady and roommates scenario would actually be realistic as I'm pretty sure guys and girls live together as roommates in real life.

That's part of why it gets used so much in my opinion.
All you need is to change a few names and lines of dialogue and you instantly go from basically vanilla to supposedly taboo fetish. At most you'd have to create a few extra scenes to drive home how scandalous and forbidden the relationship is, but plenty of incest games don't really bother with that either.

Now try that with just about any other fetish. You can't just vanillafy a femdom or corruption game, you'd have to create alternative routes, which means a lot more work.

So yeah, the way incest is mostly done in western adult games allows for an easy to implement and remove fetish that gives instant access to a variety of love interests without driving away the vanilla crowd.

 

[Mr. Lemonade]

Uh, no? I like the taboo nature of it. It's creepy and weird, and it ought to be. Genetics is genetics. There's always going to be a forbidden aspect to it, and forbidden is fantasy.

Fantasy makes for GOOD fiction! It's precisely because it's weird that makes it fascinating.

You want real sex? Then go out.

I'd say that it's the functioning of a normal sex life that regular romantic sex is less appealing to write into a fiction. It's because the devs get plenty of straight sex that incest becomes more interesting to them.

I don't doubt any of that, but it's also a very approachable genre for devs who don't have a lot of time/budget. When it comes to assets, you just have a ton of options to realize your game using character generation tools like Daz. It doesn't have to be either or.

 

[anne O'nymous]

I think one reason why there're so many incest Daz3d games is that it's hard to explain MC's exposure to many females unless they're living under the same roof and therefore they're related.

What do you call "exposure" ? If it's the possibility to catch them in a compromising situation and/or half naked, then yes. Yet he can still be a doctor or nurse by example. Being a PE teacher or having a daughter that have many friend also works.
But if it's just the possibility to interact with many females characters and possibly works his way to their panties, then any setup would works if the writer know his job.

The truth behind the amount of incest(-like) games is just that the characters haven't to be introduced to each others.
There's no need for the girl to say that she always wanted to do [whatever] for the MC to come with this idea for a date. No need for her to say that she prefer romance movies, for the MC to pick this choice at the theater. He known her since so many years that it's assumed to be common knowledge for him.
Whatever can be the knowledge that suddenly pop in the MC's mind, the player assume that he always known it. Therefore, the writer don't have to care this much about the constancy, and don't have to introduce this or that for a future use.
And in top of that, you don't need to come up with a story. Just put the family at home, place some common scenes of a day by day life, add some perversion (usually you don't enter the bathroom when you find that your mom is inside), and wait for the sex to happen.

 

[moskyx]

I think one reason why there're so many incest Daz3d games is that it's hard to explain MC's exposure to many females unless they're living under the same roof and therefore they're related.

That's not hard to explain, in real life any functional guy is exposed to many females so you just have to come up with an idea for a game but that requires some effort and, especially, the willingness to not create another incest game. If there's so many incest games is just because people demand them and a lot of devs want to tell an incest story. That's all. Then sure, Daz3D assets could be focused on certain environments because that's what most devs use so artists will try to cater that demand, and this can create an spyral of modern urban assets that makes harder for developers to set up their stories elsewhere. But it's not the main reason behind this incest madness

 

[Adabelitoo]

I feel like some people is thinking to hard on this. It is true that it's easier to write and justify incest stories with those who are already close to you from the beginning than non-incest stories metting new people but non-incest stories doesn't mean that you can't already know someone from the beginning as well, you stil have: the neighbours, the childhood friend, the classmates, the mother's friends who knows you since you were a kid, etc.

I think that if a dev really needs to rely on incest to make a good/decent story, then the dev isn't good at writting/story telling at all, and if he isn't good at writting/story telling then I really doubt his story will make me interested even if he does incest (which is my favorite tag). That can leave us with a ton of abadoned v0.0.0.1 incest games, and we do have lots of those but the thing is: I wouldn't even have those in mind while talking about why "so many" incest games. Those games are like if they never existed.

Honestly, I feel like the only reason why someone will make an incest story at the end of the day is because the dev likes incest, and that's it.

 

[polywog]

It's actually much easier to write non incest stories. MC meets someone blah blah. When it's incest, you have to include all the incessant internal monologue about how wrong this is, trying to justify, and beating yourself up over it.

 

[aesc72]

I think it's likely just because porn made it popular. It's not super difficult to create a game environment where you meet women of different age ranges (e.g. office, university, new city, friends, bar etc etc). Incest only gives you peeking scenes and some ethical issues.

On another note, I feel like using incest makes a game very inflexible, and the fix is to write a little more vaguely. It's hard to use "landlady" or "roommates" as a logical fallback. In a real-world scenario, you probably wouldn't speak to a landlady or roommate as you would a family member (nor would they make you breakfast), and even then, it's not exactly a moral dilemma if you wanted to hook up with them. In game, there's usually tension/awkwardness about hooking up, before, during, and after sex. It's difficult to make that consistent with a relationship where there aren't major consequences for sex. I guess "family friend" or "legal guardian" is a better one, but devs always write with incest in mind so relationships like that still come across as forced because of stuff like internal monologues and what the female characters say between each other. A flexible way of doing it would be to just write that the relationship is tense/awkward if attraction happens, then let the reader imagine what "awkward" is and why it'd be that way. You could fill a lot more niches by doing that (if readers don't mind playing along).

 

[ReinerBraun. (.づ◡﹏◡)づ.]

First Hi! Incest games are beautiful and much better than the most games her and so many people love incest games only lame boring people don’t love incest games if your not love incest game go play a another game !

 

[Johnson2588]

no that just call oedipus complex

 

[Carrera]

What happened to the tried and true High School/University Setting?
The Truth is like Freud used to say, developers just want to fuck their mothers.

Freud was a fraud and has been debunked 6 ways to Sunday. The only thing he brought to the table was pissing off enough people to get into psychology/psychiatry/head medicien themselves just to prove him wrong, and they have, repeatedly.


As for incest, the answer is simple. It's taboo and exciting.

 

[Adabelitoo]

Freud was a fraud and has been debunked 6 ways to Sunday. The only thing he brought to the table was pissing off enough people to get into psychology/psychiatry/head medicien themselves just to prove him wrong, and they have, repeatedly.

To be honest, I've seen way too many things against and for Freud, so many things that I don't know what to believe, especially when I don't have any special knowledge or interest about psychology. But I do notice that most of the people against him seems to be angry against him, as if it was something bothering them, something uncomfortable, something personal...

With that in mind, and the fact that we live in a world where apparently "Vaccines are a fraud and have been debunked 6 ways to Sunday", then no, sorry but I'm not buying that, especially not on a field of study with so many contradictions in itself.