I think people are missing the point.

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More and more games are being bashed. Many of the comments don't make sense. BB has people bashing it for incest content. The game is called "Big Brother the incest game of your life". Super Powered is being bashed to a rape scene. You have to enable Rape to see it. People are downloading content with out even knowing what the game is about. I see it posted here, for people to support the games they like. These games are taken from various sites and posted most are not free. So folks come here and DL for free then bitch or better yet demand the maker change the game to their desires. They cheat the games or use others saves then bitch that the game is boring. I see the same people visiting post after post complaining that the game is not what they expected. I say, do a bit of research b4 you DL.
 
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You are absolutly right, i found many games here and i must say that the result of these games here are that i have now many pledges on patreon even if i could get them here for free. There will always be someone complaining about stuff in every forum, thats how the world is today.
 

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If only common sense was so common but yet its called common sense.

I do agree as well. There have been too many people just either tl;dr or just dont give a shit. With today's world and the new millienals just not being brought like the old days, its going to be hard.

I honestly think there should be some stricter rules on how people behave and have a warning system. Yes I know this is a place for adult games, images, etc but we are all adults (I hope) and should be held accountable for ones actions. As @Humlebien stated, some of us do go out and spend money to provide these games for free. Yet we get the flack for it and no thanks.
 

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If only common sense was so common but yet its called common sense.

I do agree as well. There have been too many people just either tl;dr or just dont give a shit. With today's world and the new millienals just not being brought like the old days, its going to be hard.

I honestly think there should be some stricter rules on how people behave and have a warning system. Yes I know this is a place for adult games, images, etc but we are all adults (I hope) and should be held accountable for ones actions. As @Humlebien stated, some of us do go out and spend money to provide these games for free. Yet we get the flack for it and no thanks.
Hey as a millennial I find that offensive :p

But yeah pretty mcuh what @Humlebien said, no matter where you go youre going to have a holes roaming the place. Best thing to do is not engage really. Just let em bitch. Theyre mainly just looking for someone to "fight" anyway. Dont give em the fight and theyll die off
 
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Big Brother, being listed as a "Popular Game" when it's barely a demo, adds to the confusion.

How do I _______? You can't yet.
Why can't I ______? Because you can't yet.
Why can the redskins score, but I can't? Because you can't yet.
This game sucks!!! It's not a game yet.
 

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Yeah I love how people will bitch about something they got for free.

Sharing a love for a game in a thread is one thing, as well as having a healthy discussion about game elements. but of course some people forget the adage 'if you don't like it, then don't download it!

When a new update is released, I like to post a brief synopsis of the games I'm enjoying in the relevant threads, to give others an idea of how much new content to expect, and help them decide if (for them) it is currently worth downloading that update. Some updates are very incremental with little new content, while others add a lot of content. It's good to know which is the case, and developers sometimes get lost in their own hype so to speak. Neither is necessarily bad, as long as you have some idea in advance which case it is.

Some people are also very quick to criticize art styles. Art is a very personal thing, even if you are using a program such as Daz Studio to make it. Not everyone is going to do things the same way, and in some cases they may have a very specific tone/artistic vision of how they want their stuff to look, as opposed to simply 'copying' someone else's style. And let's be honest, a number of developers may be trying the game art thing for the first time, be it hand drawn, 3d rendering or whatever. While critiques can be helpful, how you make that critique can be a real turn-off depending on your tone And, again, if you don't like the artistic style, you don't have to download the game.

Sure, there will always be trolls, and developers should keep that in mind. Too many games end up being abandoned due to negative feedback. In some cases that's a good thing, but in other cases the developer was putting together a nice story, but decided to simply walk away 'cuz they didn't need the stress.

If these were products that we were buying from GOG or something, then these critiques are more important. You payed money for the product after all, and you don't like to waste your money. Plus, developers of retail games need the feedback so that they can make a better game next time.

But for free products, this is simply someone trying to tell a story on their own terms, and I respect them for that. Even if I'm not interested in their specific story.

Patreon is a gray area. While in theory you are seeking 'patrons' to support your hobby, in effect you are no different from a game company. You are seeking money for your game, pure and simple. Ignore feedback at your own peril. Some feedback can be ignored, but ignore a lot of it, and you may lose patrons. This is NO DIFFERENT than a game company that releases a bad game digitally. Sure, they will still sell a few copies, but word gets around fast. If you are doing the Patreon thing to make a few bucks, you've just opened that door regardless of whatever you want to tell yourself.

As a developer, pandering to the crowd too much can be bad too (feature creep getting in the way of the story, for example), so you need to find the balance that allows you to to tell the story you are trying to tell while keeping the majority of your patrons happy.

If you are supporting a developer on Patreon, the best place to give them meaningful feedback is on their Patreon. Sure, some developers spend time here as well, but most pay only passing attention to the many threads for these games on various forums. In a lot of cases, it's a better use of their time to focus on generating content for the next update.

Back to the point here. I agree that in most cases people here are downloading a game for free, and they need to keep that in mind. If the developer wants your feedback here, they can ask for it. Otherwise, if you don't like the game in question, there are a buttload of other games being discussed here, so spend your time in those threads instead. No one is holding a gun to your head saying 'YOU MUST PLAY BIG BROTHER" (or whichever game).
 

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'if you don't like it, then don't download it!

buit how would you know that you don't like something, if you've never tried it? download it, try it a few times, then judge for yourself if you like it or not. if you don't like it, fix it, delete it, or cry about it. the last choice isn't really an option I just threw that in there to pacify the coddled youth of today who don't know how to use a spoon by themselves.

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Spot on. To be fair I think that most people who use this site conduct themselves really well and are simply grateful for what the site provides. As others have mentioned above the people who do most of the whining and bitching are the same few faces and I genuinely believe they spend most of their time looking for arguments. My best advice is to simply ignore them, or if they constantly derail threads then they should be issued a warning
 

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buit how would you know that you don't like something, if you've never tried it? download it, try it a few times, then judge for yourself if you like it or not. if you don't like it, fix it, delete it, or cry about it. the last choice isn't really an option I just threw that in there to pacify the coddled youth of today who don't know how to use a spoon by themselves.

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My statement was along two lines, so it deserves a clarification.

Note: I like Polywog as a poster, so this isn't at all intended as a 'rip' on Polywog. He has a valid point that he is making.

The OP mentioned people complaining about games with objectionable (to them) content. If you don't like incest games, and the game is advertised as an incest game, then DON'T DOWNLOAD IT. I was simply agreeing with the OP on this.

Secondly, and this one is more subtle. If you didn't like an earlier release for a game, you don't have to download the updates. Chances are you won't like the newer version. And if you do decide to give it another go, and don't like it again, well you did download it for free, so your expectations should be tempered accordingly. Other people may like that game, even though you don't, so tread lightly. The game may simply be 'not for you'.

Patrons can have higher expectations in this regard, but if you aren't a patron, and are downloading a free copy of the game, well as they say 'don't look the gift horse in the mouth'. Enjoy it or not, but that doesn't give you a license to bitch and ruin everyone else's fun.

In a number of cases, you can't really judge artistic styles beforehand if there aren't a lot of screenshots, so you aren't going to know if the artwork will bother you or not. But as I pointed out before, art is a very personal thing, and everyone has their own preferences. Simply saying 'the art sucks' isn't being constructive, and the artist may NOT have had you in mind when they did the art. Others MAY like their style, so keep that in mind.
 
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My statement was along two lines, so it deserves a clarification.

Note: I like Polywog as a poster, so this isn't at all intended as a 'rip' on Polywog. He has a valid point that he is making.

The OP mentioned people complaining about games with objectionable (to them) content. If you don't like incest games, and the game is advertised as an incest game, then DON'T DOWNLOAD IT. I was simply agreeing with the OP on this.

Secondly, and this one is more subtle. If you didn't like an earlier release for a game, you don't have to download the updates. Chances are you won't like the newer version. And if you do decide to give it another go, and don't like it again, well you did download it for free, so your expectations should be tempered accordingly. Other people may like that game, even though you don't, so tread lightly. The game may simply be 'not for you'.

Patrons can have higher expectations in this regard, but if you aren't a patron, and are downloading a free copy of the game, well as they say 'don't look the gift horse in the mouth'. Enjoy it or not, but that doesn't give you a license to bitch and ruin everyone else's fun.

In a number of cases, you can't really judge artistic styles beforehand if there aren't a lot of screenshots, so you aren't going to know if the artwork will bother you or not. But as I pointed out before, art is a very personal thing, and everyone has their own preferences. Simply saying 'the art sucks' isn't being constructive, and the artist may NOT have had you in mind when they did the art. Others MAY like their style, so keep that in mind.

Life is like a box of chocolates.
Some of them in that box are awesome, and some of them are yucky. Definitely read the label before you take it home, but don't say I don't want it because it has "yuckies" in the ingredient list. Pick out the yucky ones and give then to grandma, or throw them away. It's a package deal, you can't get the good without the bad. Games that force you to eat shit suck, but remember, it's just a game. If eating shit, isn't your thing, politely excuse yourself, and spit it in your napkin. Yelling in the middle of a restaurant "there's shit in this" is going to upset others who are trying to eat.

What's happening is a lot of people are not reading, ordering a shit dish, and complaining about it. Compelled to Warn others "there's shit in the shitaroni" as if it weren't obvious. Regulars at the restaurant, don't need to be told about the shit, some of them came there for the shit special.

Fortunately for gamers, shit in a game doesn't contaminate the whole game. It's not shitonaise on your sammich, it's just some images, words, or code to be removed.
Open the images folder and replace "eric fucks mom.png" with a copy of "mom gives max a hand.png" and enjoy the game. editing the text, and code is a little more advanced, but even noobs should know how to rename files. The game doesn't care what image is displayed, it just looks at the filename. pat yourself on the back, and say "i'm a game modder now" crying isn't going to fix anything. keep what you like, get rid of what you don't. your copy of the game is yours - do whatever you want with it.

When BB first came out. I said very clever, and original concept. Unlike most incest games, where dad just died, or went away and the son fills the gap. This game takes place when dad is long gone and mom is moving into a new relationship rather than that old tired burned out cliche. Rather than a harem game, it's a strategy game....
A very ambitions undertaking for any developer. DS made some mistakes going about it, but that will be sorted out eventually. If I were the developer, Max would have been banging mom for the last 3 years, and from day one of gameframe. Then introduce Eric as the potential rival for mom's affection... after some exploration of right and wrong, Max and mom eventually agree that Mom deserves Eric, so Max turns his interest to his sisters, with mom's blessing.

We wouldn't be playing Chess today, if someone hadn't said "checkers is stupid" and modded the game.
 

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My statement was along two lines, so it deserves a clarification.

Note: I like Polywog as a poster, so this isn't at all intended as a 'rip' on Polywog. He has a valid point that he is making.

The OP mentioned people complaining about games with objectionable (to them) content. If you don't like incest games, and the game is advertised as an incest game, then DON'T DOWNLOAD IT. I was simply agreeing with the OP on this.

Secondly, and this one is more subtle. If you didn't like an earlier release for a game, you don't have to download the updates. Chances are you won't like the newer version. And if you do decide to give it another go, and don't like it again, well you did download it for free.

Patrons can have higher expectations in this regard, but if you aren't a patron, and are downloading a free copy of the game, well as they say 'don't look the gift horse in the mouth'. Enjoy it or not, but that doesn't give you a license to bitch and ruin everyone else's fun.
As a patron I agree. I have DL many games to see how I like them and maybe even play them even though I do not love them. Some I keep. Some I delete.
 

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If only common sense was so common but yet its called common sense.

I do agree as well. There have been too many people just either tl;dr or just dont give a shit. With today's world and the new millienals just not being brought like the old days, its going to be hard.

I honestly think there should be some stricter rules on how people behave and have a warning system. Yes I know this is a place for adult games, images, etc but we are all adults (I hope) and should be held accountable for ones actions. As @Humlebien stated, some of us do go out and spend money to provide these games for free. Yet we get the flack for it and no thanks.
we are all adults (I hope)

LMAO , I completely agree !
 

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we are all adults (I hope)

LMAO , I completely agree !
There's a very good chance that we have a member or two here with 'fake id's'. Although the thought of them learning about the art of seduction through the games here, as opposed to more 'conventional' means, well I wish them luck with that.

Some of these games are more of a guide for how NOT to seduce a woman, rather than how to seduce one...
 

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I bitch about games because I want them to be better. And because I like to think I am both a seasoned pervert and gamer and that my insights can be useful, or if not, at least entertaining. Criticism is a force for good, criticism makes stuff better. And especially the game devs that post their stuff here obviously want some kind of feedback that they can't get on patreon. Are you gonna show your incestuous porn game to your mom? I didn't think so.

But if you're doing that kind of thing, i.e. critiquing games occasionally you will end up just venting. And that's just a fact, that's like, if you're making a game, you're going to make script errors. Make a typo somewhere. It just happens. You can try your hardest to test all possible paths and combination but occasionally one will just slip through, especially when you're doing it all on your own and are operating on a shoestring budget and it's 6 in the morning and you're out of coffee. Same goes for writing criticism - Occasionally you lose track of what you were saying, or forget to praise the things the artist did right while lambasting errors in story, scripting or design decisions. Sometimes you just foam at the mouth because of some minute detail in an otherwise great and brilliant game and write a scathing flamepost ignoring all the good things. But even then, we critique because we love, we get emotional because we love.

Any artist will take shit for whatever he does. Does he include fetish X? Some people are going to shit on him. Does he not include fetish Y even though the setup is Y-tastic? Some people are going to shit on him too. Is he later updating to include Y? Even more people are going to shit on him! Art is a shitfest. And I much prefer this sort of environment over the coprophagic shitpocalypse that is "High Art". What's important as an artist is to filter out the nonsense and find the useful criticism, the one that goes "Hey if you do X like this, it'll feel much more natural to later transition to include Y" - If the artist does bother with criticism at all, and doesn't just whatever the artist wants to do, ignoring the feedback. Or he just focuses on the criticism by Patreons that actually pay for the privilege of telling him how much he sucks. Those are perfectly valid ways to deal with criticism.

Also, there's probably a few patreon-accounts here that just like shitting on competitors. Business is dirty, yo.

Although the thought of them learning about the art of seduction through the games here
Dear god, now that's an unsettling thought.
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I think developers should learn to accept both negative and positive remarks. If they only want to hear about positive remarks, it won't allow them to polish their games. I personally think developers have a right to make whatever they want, because it's just a videogame, but it doesn't mean there won't be consequences. Every action has a reaction.
I do think that if it's something illegal or not accepted in the real world, it's better not playing such games because playing it fuels their desires more not suppress. For example, if someone is addicted incest, and they fascinate it, how that person is going to make a positive relationship with their family members? if they are addicted to rape games, how they are going to have a positive relationship with someone else whom they are into? It would be fine if someone just wants to play a random game when they are bored or something, I am here talking about people who are addicted to certain game types. I know some people can argue that, it is not a problem. of course for some people it may not be a big problem, but it still affects to certain number of people. The game makes them to have an addiction or a habit, so it will be hard to give up, or stop thinking about it, meanwhile if they have lack of self controlling, the violent things can happen. People have very fragile minds, they are easily corrupted, that's why censorship, restrictions, rating systems are used to prevent people from being victims of their own actions. Once you developed a habit, your mind pushes you to do it. Initially, you may resist, but when it's happening always, you will surrender to it.
 

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So, lets thanks those "folks come here and DL for free", and say for all critycs "Hey, guys, do you ever did better?"
 

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I agree with you OP, I think the problem is everyone feels they have to make their opinion heard and followed, this is quite damaging to developers that wish to follow their own vision.

Another problem is people expressing distaste for certain genres in threads, for example, I've seen members posting in futa/trap game threads just to say how much they dislike that genre, it makes no sense that they should comment on stuff they are not interested in.
 
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