I think people are missing the point.

[polywog]

I agree with you OP, I think the problem is everyone feels they have to make their opinion heard and followed, this is quite damaging to developers that wish to follow their own vision.

Another problem is people expressing distaste for certain genres in threads, for example, I've seen members posting in futa/trap game threads just to say how much they dislike that genre, it makes no sense that they should comment on stuff they are not interested in.

You can't earn your GirlScout social justice merit badge by selling cookies anymore. To reach warrior level in the troop, your menstrual blood must be smeared across the interwebs...

 

[polywog]

If they only want to hear about positive remarks

Excellent point.

In many popular social sites there is a "thumbs up" and a "thumbs down" option as well.

When all you have is a "like" button, the unhappy player is further outraged by censorship.
Simply not clicking like... will not suffice.
Lacking the facilities for him to quickly express himself,
desperately seeking relief from the butthurt within
he finds no other choice but to take a dump in the thread
grasping his glutes, he aims and squirts

 

[Macattack]

If a creator tries to please everyone that can led to a game being crap. Better to let the person make what they like and just find something else.

 

[Tease Me]

If a creator tries to please everyone that can led to a game being crap. Better to let the person make what they like and just find something else.

That is my point. There are so many games to chose from why pick ones that you know you won't like.

Excellent point.

In many popular social sites there is a "thumbs up" and a "thumbs down" option as well.

When all you have is a "like" button, the unhappy player is further outraged by censorship.
Simply not clicking like... will not suffice.
Lacking the facilities for him to quickly express himself,
desperately seeking relief from the butthurt within
he finds no other choice but to take a dump in the thread
grasping his glutes, he aims and squirts

Wow. I a not talking about a patron or a person who is upset at something or another. I am talking about people who go around and trash game after game. Maybe they just want to stir the pot maybe it is just a way to increase there comments #. Either way these people don't seem to come here to criticize to make the game better, but come here to vent.

 

[polywog]

That is my point. There are so many games to chose from why pick ones that you know you won't like.


Wow. I a not talking about a patron or a person who is upset at something or another. I am talking about people who go around and trash game after game. Maybe they just want to stir the pot maybe it is just a way to increase there comments #. Either way these people don't seem to come here to criticize to make the game better, but come here to vent.

I didn't mean to ignore your first point, or detract from it, when I commented on a latter point which you made multitasking.

I agree developers should stay true to their vision, and finish what they started... but i have to allow some exceptions.

For many of us developers, our work is a "labor of love" we come home from work, and fuck around a little making games to relieve stress, or whatever... because it's something we enjoy doing. Long before Patreon there were many sites where players could comment, and make donations to support developers developers in this genre.
When players liked your work and wanted to see more, they encouraged developers to "quit your day job" and do this full time. Some do, some don't. Over the years, I've gotten to know, and work with many other devs. Some that I myself would like to see do more. Everybody has different opinions on this. If it was a "JOB" I would hate doing it. Others, love their job and do it full time.

Recently, a lot of noobs have jumped into this. I'm not one to begrudge, like ... they didn't earn their stripes... I'm happy to see more and more games out there, and I encourage more people to get into it. Most of what I get from supporters, is turned around straight to other devs, and artists who need it. I want to see them working on projects, rather than flipping burgers.

On the other hand, some people started trying to make a business out of this, or lets say with the wrong motive, or lack of interest, and doing it strictly for profit. Unoriginal content usually doesn't make it far.

Patreon isn't what most people think it is. Inexperienced devs, and especially those startups looking to make money who don't "care" about their game, will sell their own mother for a buck. Patreon is not so much... support the artist, these days, as it is a political platform, where influence is sold. I can't fault developers for taking the cash, and catering to their patron's wishes, but man are they selling short. I get offered $20K by one organization or another to change my game, I turn it down, and they offer $50k. These noobs cuck up their game for a mere $20/ month.

 

[Ragnar]

I think some people like to shitpost, I have seen good critics in some threads but some others are just plain shitpostting, controlling that is up to mods.

 

[Nightcrawler]

i find it sad really that people feel the need to ferociously slate games that they have probably downloaded for free.It quite simple really if you don't like the game hit delete you have lost nothing, No need to go slagging the game off or the devs off.But unfortunately no matter which forums you go on you are always going to get keyboard warriors trolling or slagging things off

 

[Paitryn]

I think free or not, the point of this forum is to discuss games. Chans, SVS, etc you can download games there too. Just having discussions there is pretty impossible. Using free as an argument about quality is strait bullshit. pure and simple. I contribute to devs, and share works, but at the same time I would like to here anyone's opinion as well. We are on a discussion board are we not? I very rarely see the level of complaining people seem to be speaking about. Maybe a handful of posts in a thread are retardedly negative?

Devs worrying about what gets discussed here is really their problem. They have patreon pages for direct contact and feedback. It's nice when they are here, but I see the occasional butthurt and passive aggresive pushback rising up. Thats when devs need to go about their business. Honestly they have better things to do than troll forums all day. General Practitioner and Teacher's pets devs are both getting a bit more defensive in their comments, I hope they take a forum break and focus on their work. They also need to really just ignore the morons that dont get it.

Like polywog said, I'ts a labor of love first, then it shouldn't be an issue anyways. But for many it's about money and Game developers are honestly the most idiotic people when it comes to money, sales, and income. They are the first to trash their customer, blame their issues on anyone else and rarely ever understand the term Customer service. This is AAA all the way down. Exceptions occur, but the majority do not belong anywhere near talking to a customer.

Incidentally game devs: PLAYERS are CUSTOMERS. treat them that way and you may make more money. Just sayin.'

 

[sissybarbie]

OP must be talking about the unconstructive critisim people leave on download threads.

As for constructive criticism, though... Well, I always tried my best to explain my thoughts and how I see things - to the best of my abilities, really.
But the point was never to reach developer/author, but other people browsing the forum.

A good criticism can make you appreciate certain stuff in the story better, like the game better, make you aware to things you haven't noticed before, teach you some stuff, and I suppose sour the experience for some others - that's the way it is; you can't satisfy everybody.
Besides, some critics in here are a fun read.

Sometimes, when I go through the comments I have a lot more fun than with the game.

We're all here to have fun. People just have diffrent ideas about what it means. That includes the people who don't read threads description, just here to shitpost, etc. You shouldn't let others ruin your fun.

 

[dartis]

This is why I love this place. It's not just a place that people go to for free games, it's a community. Thanks in no small measure to the moderators.

But, this thread is still kind of missing the point. I see a lot of people bitching about people bitching, which isn't going to get anything done, and not realising that the OP of this thread is mostly doing this because they're unhappy that some people don't like a game that they happen to love.

It's a knee-jerk reaction of the finest kind, not really deserving of all of the thought and constructive debating that I'm seeing from some people here.

 

[mladko]

This is why I love this place. It's not just a place that people go to for free games, it's a community. Thanks in no small measure to the moderators.

But, this thread is still kind of missing the point. I see a lot of people bitching about people bitching, which isn't going to get anything done, and not realising that the OP of this thread is mostly doing this because they're unhappy that some people don't like a game that they happen to love.

It's a knee-jerk reaction of the finest kind, not really deserving of all of the thought and constructive debating that I'm seeing from some people here.

forget about what is wrong or not for now, the point is when you have problem whit somebody, what is saying, confront him directly, in this case in particular thread, or threads, but confront him politely and clearly, maybe you can confuse him little to, becouse you can spare your time, maybe
ps i think this thread has meaning to, we can learn from this, or not thats all

 

[atlas114]

@Paitryn

I agree with your post and believe most of the discussion here concerning these games are generally of the constructive criticism variety, possible bugs, or players trying to figure out how to achieve certain points in the game.

then there's those select few that complain about lack of content when the game is barely in pre alpha and knock the dev for milking his/her patrons. I understand the dev's would be better served by simply ignoring such trolls to focus on their game but I totally understand dev's that may get testy when such criticism is unwarranted - they worked hard on developing their game, often for low patron income and on their precious free time after work and someone is out there commenting and not adding any value.

 

[DeMarcus16]

OP must be talking about the unconstructive critisim people leave on download threads.

I first look at the art, if I find that appealing, I look at the tags. When I see furry, funatari, dick-girl, scat, etc, I move on. I find that shit disgusting. But, in a community - even though I have the right, I don't go into that thread and bash anyone because of their tastes. If it's their taste fine, it's not mine.

By the same token, I desire, (not demand), the same respect in the loli, incest, milf, etc, game threads I'm reading. This place is growing too fast to keep up with, without having to sort through the crap the OP was talking about.

 

[89tasker]

The opposite of love is indifference. Hating something enough to complain about it means you're provoking a passionate response. A good thing.

Personally, I would have given the people even more ERIC.

I would also take complaints about lack of content as a positive. Nobody cares about updates on a horrible game. What matters more for people is communication.

However, complaining about tagged content is just being a troll. Unless it's missing. I'm of the opinion that developers should only include tags that exist in the current version. Personally, I wish I had never started playing DMD; since we probably won't get satisfaction until 2025.

 

[Tease Me]

Geez. I made this thread mainly to put my two cents in or in other wise tell people how I felt at the time.

Thank you guys for taking it to a higher level.

My new thing is the amount of people who need help playing. I a not bashing because they ask but I think they need to try a bit harder to find walk throughs maybe visiting game makers site. Don't get me wrong I love to help and do as much as I can. I hope you guys feel the same and help where you can. The mods and Game Makers do there best but we active gamers have the upper hand at letting people know our tricks.

Again thanks all of you for your comments Pro or Con you all are great.

 

[DeMarcus16]

...try a bit harder to find walk throughs ...

My favorite is the request for a walkthrough 5 minutes after the game was posted. "It's not even finished downloading, why aren't you just watching porn?"

 

[Oiz]

More and more games are being bashed. Many of the comments don't make sense. BB has people bashing it for incest content. The game is called "Big Brother the incest game of your life". Super Powered is being bashed to a rape scene. You have to enable Rape to see it. People are downloading content with out even knowing what the game is about. I see it posted here, for people to support the games they like. These games are taken from various sites and posted most are not free. So folks come here and DL for free then bitch or better yet demand the maker change the game to their desires. They cheat the games or use others saves then bitch that the game is boring. I see the same people visiting post after post complaining that the game is not what they expected. I say, do a bit of research b4 you DL.

While I agree that the complains you listed are pretty damn stupid, I also have to say that "Downloaded game for free, no bitching" is just as stupid.
You can download a game for free and can still legitimately say you don't like it. You can say, that you'd find it better if X was changed. Yes conlaining about incest content in a game labeled as an incest game is stupid, but there's also legitimate criticism. We've got quite a few devs here on this forum, actively reading said criticism and even agreeing that some of it is legit and applying changes accordingly.

The threads for games are there to share and discuss said games. Negative opinions can be just as legit as positive ones and a discussion can't be had if only one side is allowed to express their thoughts.

 

[4nan]

i am pretty sure people are using this site to download premium games for free. saying people are downloading free and they cant do shit (crictize etc) is stupid.

 

[Tease Me]

While I agree that the complains you listed are pretty damn stupid, I also have to say that "Downloaded game for free, no bitching" is just as stupid.
You can download a game for free and can still legitimately say you don't like it. You can say, that you'd find it better if X was changed. Yes conlaining about incest content in a game labeled as an incest game is stupid, but there's also legitimate criticism. We've got quite a few devs here on this forum, actively reading said criticism and even agreeing that some of it is legit and applying changes accordingly.

The threads for games are there to share and discuss said games. Negative opinions can be just as legit as positive ones and a discussion can't be had if only one side is allowed to express their thoughts.

Yes I agree 100% I was talking about people who do it for no other reason than to bitch. There is nothing wrong with posting your opinion or asking for some additional things in a game. I do most of that on the Developers site, but that is just me.

This is why I love this place. It's not just a place that people go to for free games, it's a community. Thanks in no small measure to the moderators.

But, this thread is still kind of missing the point. I see a lot of people bitching about people bitching, which isn't going to get anything done, and not realising that the OP of this thread is mostly doing this because they're unhappy that some people don't like a game that they happen to love.

It's a knee-jerk reaction of the finest kind, not really deserving of all of the thought and constructive debating that I'm seeing from some people here.

Hardly, Knee.... Jerk.
It was when I went to a game that had recently been added, and seen the same bashers posting how the game was not up to there expectations and also posting links to a game that they thought might be better. This is not at all good for the FORUM the DEV or F95 MEMBERS. Why go to one game bash it then post a link to another DEV it makes the new DEV look bad too. It makes me wonder...WHY?????

 

[ScottyLQ]

This is the first forum I've been on where any percentage of the userbase that plays the games have complained about the erotic scenarios they don't like (i.e. incest, ntr), and actively made mods to block that content. I was astonished. Especially because in many of the modded games you only see the NTR content if you choose to have it.

I always took it for granted that a porn video game forum was the last place you'd find prudes in.