I wonder why renders like this are not used in VN?

[Nocode]

I have a question rounding my head for a while.
The thing is, I saw on IG, X and others, female models created with AI that looks great. You can see it's not real at first sight but anyway, they are fantastic. I think you all must saw them cause they a pretty usual.

So my question is why the games and VN never use anything like that.
Creators post new render daily also animations usually around 10 seconds.
They use hundred different s clothes, backgrounds,poses and gestures. There is such a big difference with the usual Renpy game.
I think you all know what I'm talking about but I attached a few just in case.

 

[c3p0]

I have a question rounding my head for a while.
The thing is, I saw on IG, X and others, female models created with AI that looks great. You can see it's not real at first sight but anyway, they are fantastic. I think you all must saw them cause they a pretty usual.

So my question is why the games and VN never use anything like that.
Creators post new render daily also animations usually around 10 seconds.
They use hundred different s clothes, backgrounds,poses and gestures. There is such a big difference with the usual Renpy game.
I think you all know what I'm talking about but I attached a few just in case.

Do you know how much work was behind it? Usually AI can't draw hands and also have trouble getting the same model in different scene. Also last but not least, some of the devs may enjoy making a scene, instead of "AI do this".

 

[LfkCn]

probably difficult to do.

 

[Icarus Media]

I'll admit it's come a long way since the days of the earlier abominations it used to spit out, some of the older pictures looked liked renders from The Thing.

 

[FapYeah]

Having a game with realistic renders like these will probably make it very hard for the devs to sell the game on any platform as it can be seen as porn containing real people.

 

[Nocode]

Do you know how much work was behind it? Usually AI can't draw hands and also have trouble getting the same model in different scene. Also last but not least, some of the devs may enjoy making a scene, instead of "AI do this".

No, i have no idea how much work it takes. I'm a good writer (Spanish, english is my 3rd language) but awful with graphics.
I cheeked if work time or size could be the reason. Size clearly wasn't an issue and i supposed time neither since some creators have more than a thousand posted and not many are repeated.
Also, i heard a lot of devs explaining the delay on the time spent polishing the render and passing 50 through the AI. Am i wrong?
I thought it shouldn't take much more time than the others.
I say it again, I don't know a shit about creating renders. I'm just trying to clear my doubts not debating.

And about those who avoid AI because enjoy the process i didn't say that all the games should use this kind of graphics, on the contrary I asked why not even one used.

I appreciate your help.
Thank you.

 

[DSSAlex]

It's not so hard to get a clanker to slop out single individual images but if you want a bunch of images that maintain continuity that is much more difficult for a clanker to do

 

[Nocode]

Having a game with realistic renders like these will probably make it very hard for the devs to sell the game on any platform as it can be seen as porn containing real people.

They're games with real porn actress and not even mention their name and if they were real nothing is wrong.

 

[Nocode]

It's not so hard to get a clanker to slop out single individual images but if you want a bunch of images that maintain continuity that is much more difficult for a clanker to do

I don't remember ever heard the word 'clanker" but sounds related to machine wounds like 'clank' so must be referred to the AI and with that meaning the text makes sense.
And again my lack of knowledge about renders creations is kicking me.
But personally i'w sacrifice some scene continuity along the story but keeping it in the crucial time, lewd and sex scenes. Don't you?

 

[Nocode]

And I must say, usually 90% of the game repeats mc_happy, mad, sad, serious, angry, laughing, crying, thinking, sitting or laying and placing center, center_left, center_right, left, right. Maybe a few more for MC or FMC. And the places are the same in every Renpy game. eg. The clothing shop have the counter on the right, beside the counter a hallways leading to the changing rooms and clothes on the left side or the generic comercial place (may be a massage parlor, tanning center, etc.) counter center_right hallways center and waiting room and the left.

This without offending the artists. just those are enough.

 

[Living In A Lewd World]

They're games with real porn actress and not even mention their name and if they were real nothing is wrong.

Just look at this from the Patreon-Community-Guidelines:



And this:



I know, real-porn-games exist on Patreon, but as soon as one would report them, they would be removed.

Not sure about Steam and the others, but they surely have similar phrases in their guidelines.

 

[morphnet]

They're games with real porn actress and not even mention their name and if they were real nothing is wrong.

and those games with real porn actresses can not be sold on most platforms because they use real people. They aren't saying there are no games with real people, they are saying they can't be sold on most platforms.

 

[c3p0]

and those games with real porn actresses can not be sold on most platforms because they use real people. They aren't saying there are no games with real people, they are saying they can't be sold on most platforms.

That as most of them do not legally licences that content. The few (1 or 2) that tried to do a RL porn game with actors who they paid, didn't exist a long time, cause $50 a month doesn't help much if you need to pay 3 actors and the rest of the staff some hours for a 20 min 3-some scene.

 

[Nocode]

Just look at this from the Patreon-Community-Guidelines:

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And this:

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I know, real-porn-games exist on Patreon, but as soon as one would report them, they would be removed.

Not sure about Steam and the others, but they surely have similar phrases in their guidelines.

I see...
You know like the English is the language consensually used, to legal system the commonwealth is the strongest.
The problem is, commonwealth is almost medieval. It's far from the Roman legal system (French Napoleonic Code and all the occidental country not ruled by British).
Like,
Why Incest is forbidden and punished?
Is an old religious canon.
I never knew about anyone having sex with his parents but only the ethic is the limit.
The private actions of men are exempt from competent authority. This is one of the bases in a modern legal system.
Now, how can you get consent from a character ' hyper realistic' when, by definition, implies 'not existent'? If exist is real, "Ultra Rx grand hyperest realisitc" != Real.
But the real porn used in games are from the "free videos". They set free some scenes and upload the tho porn sites to promote the full video. A movie uses a 3 min spoiler but porn industry needs to go further to get attention.
And then, which are the parameters say if s render is 'hyper realistic'? The hyper realistic 10 years ago today is just realistic and probably in 10 or 20 years the hyper realistic will be almost like a guy standing in front of me.
The rule is abstract the requirement impossible and the damage they trying prevent is inexistent.



Sorry, by i really hate all this over controller laws and the fake freedom in the national slogan. Someone said, "the best slave is the one who think he is free".
I'm a lawyer and I really know about this. I have PhD in law (latin) and made a post grade in California learning deeply the commonwealth.

 

[c3p0]

Why Incest is forbidden and punished?

And I was sure it was science, cause inbreeding will higher the chance of genetic defects or so.

Must then be something else. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

[Hagatagar]

Usually AI can't draw hands

We are actually past that already. Only the cheap and quick AI generators tent to mess those up. With quick I mean those that make images under 1 Minute.

Also last but not least, some of the devs may enjoy making a scene

Oh, the ambiguity.

I don't remember ever heard the word 'clanker" but sounds related to machine wounds like 'clank' so must be referred to the AI and with that meaning the text makes sense.

Yes, it's a word invented as a "slur" agains AI and automation (robots).

But the real porn used in games are from the "free videos".

Just because they are "free" doesn't mean you have the rights to use them and earn money with them.

 

[Nocode]

And I was sure it was science, cause inbreeding will higher the chance of genetic defects or so.
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Must then be something else. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Also a woman older than 35 increases the chance year by year but is not punished and they punish incestuous sex not incestuous pregnant. The justice only should act damage existed and the damaged claims repairment or represent potencial risk for others. No damage is no judgement.

 

[Nocode]

Just because they are "free" doesn't mean you have the rights to use them and earn money with them.

Oh, yes it does. Is something like the open source giving the code for free (to be closer to the forum topic). Linux is free but Oracle, Red hat even android is based on Linux are they are not open at all.
The scenes are free to use and porn page can put his publicity even in the scene. Going further, the movie is protected, but you can use some parts for free (there is a limited part of the movie of course).
And the same movie on the market proof the actor's consent.
Finally, with the AI models the creator should use some registration, protecting his work and a property verification for 3er partys. With a work not yet published anyone could steal them.

 

[anne O'nymous]

Why Incest is forbidden and punished?
Is an old religious canon.

Einstein second wife,

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third wife, H.G. Wells first wife,

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, Sadam Hussein first wife, all 1st cousin.

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first wife (2nd cousin), and of course, less close but more known, Franklin D. Roosevelt (5th cousin).
And this is just to name few and limit to people who lived during the 20th century; one being still alive.

Looks like the "old religious canon" isn't really well enforced...

Now, how can you get consent from a character ' hyper realistic' when, by definition, implies 'not existent'? If exist is real, "Ultra Rx grand hyperest realisitc" != Real.

For someone who claim to be a Lawyer, you strangely fail to understand something as basic as the fact that the consent have to happen in the game. Said otherwise, that the two characters pictured have to also be pictured as consenting.
It's obviously not you, the player, nor even them, the platform, who've to get that consent... It just need to be explicit enough in the story.

And then, which are the parameters say if s render is 'hyper realistic'? The hyper realistic 10 years ago today is just realistic and probably in 10 or 20 years the hyper realistic will be almost like a guy standing in front of me.

For someone who claim to have a post graduate in Law in California, and therefore regarding common law, you seem to forget that said common law evolve with its time and the judicial precedent.

 

[pazhentaigame]

I want to use them too
but find out steam don't allow you to sell game with a realistic person's photo with Ai
because you can't prove to them that the person in the img is no where on earth and will sue them later
this is not just only for porn game some game also need to change all realistic img because this too
(why steam? I don't make game type that people will pay me for a subscription.)


and make porn game from Ai with realistic is not that easy
I don't mean the Ai part is hard(well actually it's hard)
but people who good at make realistic Ai
they had a better way to make money with it
or they had other paid job that better than make porn game

just porn game alone is already hard(Coding writing etc)
and Ai is not something resource less than 3D
if you want to make an animation video
it's require a better PC more than Daz
or you end up had a smaller resolution version
(The smaller it is the worst quality Ai can deliver too)

and if you had a montser PC that had 24+ GB vram
and can render Ai porn video with 720-1080 resolution++
that mean you already had a better job and paid work
and with that quality video
you can just pump that out and make Patreon without making a game to get money