Idea for an adult game site

ASLPro3D

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I would really like to see another platform that is legal and is "good" enough to compete with all the others, even if it is only in the small subset of adult game, legal but shunned on.

My impression is, that very often the time and work something like this needs (or same for the "I'm new, want to do a AVN and life from it") is not realistic considered. Therefore, I try to show this site and for every successful business/dev/ideas they always are many more unsuccessful ones. Doing anything with the goal of becoming professional will you first cost you time and most often money too and it is never sure that you will get any of the money you invested back.

This is different with making an AVN as the cost there can be zero to invest (even with a toaster as a PC) and so it is only time you need to invest. Here, regardless of it, this will cost money.

As I'm thinking about it, ASLPro3D perhaps something for you or you may have some inputs for that.
I've got to take some time to go through all of this to know exactly what is being discussed, proposed and such... but, yeah, as the creator of Renderosity, Renderotica and helped Daz3D with their site, I can certainly help in providing insight, suggestions/ideas and realistic goals/reach for a new website start up, scaling and marketing.

Will go through this thread in more detail in a little bit... right now helping to get the current actions that were done to NSFW gamers on Steam, Itch and other places by Visa & Mastercard trending with Grummz and Pirate Nation, as well as the Petition we are asking people to sign... once I've finished that, will go through this thread and, hopefully, post something for my patrons today too.

So much going on... great time to be an NSFW creator... :rolleyes: :sneaky:
 

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There are two petitions against this.
US only:
Rest of the world:

Campaign to pressure the payment processors:

Bob69, Lerd0: Any though if this change have a chance that eg. the staff issue a site wide information on this?:unsure:
 

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There are two petitions against this.
US only:
Rest of the world:

Campaign to pressure the payment processors:

Bob69, Lerd0: Any though if this change have a chance that eg. the staff issue a site wide information on this?:unsure:
..bruh no clue.....
...mods and staff avoid me like the plague....
...gave them too many stds......
 
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With the current fiasco now extended to itch, we need a safe site like this now more than ever, otherwise this will never end.
Any safe sites would also need payments from people and then they would need to find the ways to get money that most people have. That's where your basic cards come into play and the ones that work with banks as debit cards. They are low level entry cards that most every adult probably has access to, so it's the best way to get money from them for digital goods.

Ultimately porn games will just need to be free, made by people with passion rather than wanting to make a buck, and I guess go from there. :coffee:

You can mail money to them by check or stuff an envelope with some cash or something.
 

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Ultimately porn games will just need to be free, made by people with passion rather than wanting to make a buck, and I guess go from there. :coffee:
People aren't just wanting to make a buck. People make a living from this.
Just because someone is selling their work, doesn't mean there is no passion.
Artists also don't work for free.
 
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Since it's you, I'm going to assume you're joking.
I'm half joking.

If the government doesn't opt to step in or the payment processors make some deals, it's going to be tough to make a profit digitally when you can no longer access payments from probably 90% of your clients.

People can switch to other processors like CCBill maybe, but turning a profit may be tough. And even CCBill may not let you use the common cards. Gonna be creative for a while, and profits are probably going to nosedive for a lot of devs. :(
 

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People aren't just wanting to make a buck. People make a living from this.
Just because someone is selling their work, doesn't mean there is no passion.
Artists also don't work for free.
I know they have passion. They'll just need more of it and to have their passion get them through until this sorts out, or it doesn't.

I've been seeing devs itch.io pages get taken down with no notice. Will they be back? Who knows. Will it just happen again and also maybe or maybe not come back? Who knows.

I'm very sad for the devs and the consumers, but I don't see the off-ramp back to success yet.
 

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I know they have passion. They'll just need more of it and to have their passion get them through until this sorts out, or it doesn't.

I've been seeing devs itch.io pages get taken down with no notice. Will they be back? Who knows. Will it just happen again and also maybe or maybe not come back? Who knows.

I'm very sad for the devs and the consumers, but I don't see the off-ramp back to success yet.
Passion doesn't pay the bills. Can't eat passion.
 

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I know they have passion. They'll just need more of it and to have their passion get them through until this sorts out, or it doesn't.

I've been seeing devs itch.io pages get taken down with no notice. Will they be back? Who knows. Will it just happen again and also maybe or maybe not come back? Who knows.

I'm very sad for the devs and the consumers, but I don't see the off-ramp back to success yet.
I mean, you've seen how some people talk to devs here, right? Passion definitely isn't enough of an incentive to deal with that kinda nonsense. :ROFLMAO:

Except my audience. They're fuckin' based AF. Absolute champions, the lot of em'.
 

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Passion doesn't pay the bills. Can't eat passion.
Yep. It's not a good time to be a porn game developer.

I've been playing games since doom and I've never killed or even shot at another person before, ever, and dont plan to. I sure hope taking down the porn game industry stops some rapist who was inspired by a video game to go rape someone. I'm sure in some crazy feminist logic it does, though I think really when it comes down to it they just want to hurt people (mostly men), by targeting things they like. I do not condone the stupid actions of my gender and don't believe any of it is anything more than being petty and vindictive and evil themselves.
 

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DoAdventures as the guy responsible for building and running such sites and brokerage stores (which is what you are talking about building here) as Renderosity & Renderotica, as well as worked with Daz3D with Dan Farr, Chad Smith and Chris Creek, I took a look at your idea (which I think is a good one) and you seem have a pretty good idea in which start with... however, you still need to factor and consider a few things:

1.) Server acquisition, on/off site maintenance, bandwidth costs and such, I'd suggest speaking with badtimetales as I know that he is in that business and can point you in the right direction or even possibly help set you up if needed... he is a damn good guy and personal friend.

2.) Marketing/Advertising... you need to factor in marketing/advertising and costs associated with such, not just for the website and domain name, but also for the customers who use your system and sell on your website. So, social media presence will be important, Discord management and Customer Service Reps will be needed... but you really want to be able to SELL the product you are brokering. I can share with you ideas that will help speed up the process and help you out in some capacity, if you want.

3.) Staffing... make sure the business/website is properly staffed, you CAN NOT do everything yourself!! When I started Renderosity, I had a nice size and experienced staff such as my friends and partners: Diane Griffith, Ed Arsenault, Colm Jackson, Roy Riggs, Traveler, Legume, Clint Hawkings and few others... the point is, despite starting out, you are going to have a RUSH of traffic of people checking the site out, they will have questions, LOTS of questions, you may have server performance issues that you will have to deal with, you will have some ass-monkeys that will just spam the forums and create havoc... the thing is, it will be TOO MUCH for just you to deal with; so, BUILD A STAFF of trusted and experienced people that you can rely on and have them in positions that they are best suited for. Also be sure to BUDGET INCENTIVES for your staff, something that is given for their hard work and time, be it access to games and products you will be brokering (be sure the clients you broker know that you'll be doing this) or a paycheck for their time... THAT should be budgeted along with start up and advertising costs and within the percentage that you will claim from the people you broker for... account for website maintenance fees, bandwidth costs (particular burst fees), advertising fees/costs, staffing costs, Internet Merchant/Gateway/processing fees and staffing fees/payroll.

4.) Accounting... you are going to need some one that is SKILLED in keeping your books, making sure payroll and broker payouts go out ON TIME! Someone that can provide quarterly/yearly tax forms for your staff and brokers. Someone that can pay the bills and keep the servers up and running, maintained, managed and bandwidth costs. And someone that can work with your processors and help you gather the info of area/location sales tax, collect it and pay it out to the appropriate areas/locations.

5.) Time & Management... understand, what you would be undertaking is a shitton of work!! Say goodbye to your free-time and holidays... DEFINITELY HOLIDAYS!!! Understand that people LOG IN when they have time in their day and the best time that they have to scour and interact is freaking HOLIDAYS!! You want a holiday? This is where your staff can help, having a business partner that will alternate holidays/breaks with you, someone to manage staff, having staff that have a loyal following with customers that can help customers comes in VERY HANDY.

Understand, you are talking about building a large social network and store, know that it will be VERY DEMANDING of your time, it will REQUIRE HELP, it will REQUIRE ADVERTISING and you will have to focus on HOSPITALITY and BUILDING lasting relationships/friendships with your customers and brokers, you will have to be an ORGANIZER, a good HOST, be DEPENDABLE, be SOCIAL, be able to OBSERVE, ADAPT and OVERCOME situations PROFESSIONALLY, KNOWLEDGEABLE or have someone that is KNOWLEDGEABLE about the business and industry... be CLEVER to see where your competitors fail and either fix it or don't apply it in your business plan, be SERIOUS to stick with it and make it work and lastly be HONEST!!!

People will be relying on you for their livelihood, counting on you to get paid when you say they are getting paid, get their tax forms when the end of the year rolls around or quarterly. They are going to want someone that will be OPEN and HONEST with them if a processor or Internet Merchant Account changes or... in the case we just seen with Steam or Itch.io, able to TIMELY INFORM your brokers of the changes that need to be made and time for them to make adjustments to their own business and livelihood...

DO NOT BE LIKE ITCH.IO and send your customers and clients to another place to get their information from (like Reddit)!! Keep all your shit IN-HOUSE and in an area they are familiar with and are a part of.. you can make the same announcements elsewhere.. but DO IT ON YOUR SITE FIRST and NOTIFY your brokers using Site Mail or Messaging...

That's just part of it, a good chunk of it... and the most important keys, as I said there is more and also stuff that will come at you that you will have to adapt too, but that is the biggest chunk...

I am always open to talk to, help if I can and provide you some insight and stuff... all you need to do is ask.


Good Luck,
~Jack D. Kammerer Jr.

P.S.: Oh and proof of me and Renderosity... fuck me, another note to add... have a good looking website designer and logo creator and graphics! :LOL: :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:

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Not sure if this has been suggested, but another way to provide options to devs and users is game keys. The dev can choose to use the platform for sale and distribution using the profit split you decide on or if they choose to use their own sale platform/model they pay a set cost for file or server hosting and can issue game keys to their player base. You would of course have to figure out how to maintain the file/server hosting if the dev stops paying and other similar fiddly bits but my suggestion would be a contract that if they cease paying for the service without notice or such the platform switches to distribution AND sales for the title with a slightly harsher but not too bad split of the proceeds.

I would also suggest that the terms for listing a product on the platform include that the game must be either playable entirely offline or include a timeline of service for online-only portions of the game. Maybe something similar to a down payment system where costs for hosting the game are estimated and a portion of the games sales are reserved in case the game is prematurely dropped or unhosted. If they keep it active until or past whatever date they set that reserve fund is released back to them. This one isn't really aimed at indie devs but you'll want something similar so big studios can't milk your platform for all it is worth while tanking your reputation by being the way we all know they are.
 

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Ok, time for questions.
How private will it be?

Are we allowed to directly download games like Itch?

Or are we forced to use download intermediares like the platform's launcher?

Will it have DRM?

Each kink is a private thing, hence why questions regarding data privacy.
 

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Its funny to think that ''the land of freedom'' is the first country to avoid to get a platform like that or any platform in reality, just like the UK, always talking about freedom and individual rights, yet they tell you what to do with your own money, your life, your time, your decitions.. hopefully a good platform will be created soon, steam had a strong censor back in the day, now it has some NSFW games but still censored and its kinda impossible for a starting dev to post anything in there and get enough attention to get some real profit from a game
 

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Its funny to think that ''the land of freedom'' is the first country to avoid to get a platform like that or any platform in reality, just like the UK, always talking about freedom and individual rights, yet they tell you what to do with your own money, your life, your time, your decitions.. hopefully a good platform will be created soon, steam had a strong censor back in the day, now it has some NSFW games but still censored and its kinda impossible for a starting dev to post anything in there and get enough attention to get some real profit from a game
Where I live we had people who called themselves the Definancing Team, not major payment processors, just people who reported other people to brands. They would go after any brands that supported who they didn't like and complain to the brand's rep until the supported person got booted. And the definancing team members were usually in the opposite spectrum of what people think Collective Shout is.
 

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Ultimately porn games will just need to be free, made by people with passion rather than wanting to make a buck, and I guess go from there. :coffee:
Doesnt work like that.

That has the same energy as "ultimately, Hunter x Hunter will just need to be finished, made with passion rather than wanting for the author to get rid of crippling disc herniation'

The only reason why we have this ammount of porn games in this day and age is devs can get profit from making them. Imagine spending years on a product for free while half of your userbase complains they can't fuck your childhood friend.