[ILLUSION] AI Girl and Honey Select 2 - Card Sharing Thread

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JDonovan

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Just loaded Donovan's original character on my machine.
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She is pretty small 145cm and has tits no bigger than a mozzie bite. You can judge with your own eyes. Is this a 20 year old character?

I think creative freedom is the right of all artists whether art is made with elephant dookie, or just looks like it. But this is not the Lourve. It is a porn game we are developing our characters for. I also think Nexora was most likely on hard drugs. Dumb ass can't very well call our moderators MFers and get away with it. An example had to be made, and the ban was the right call. However, I also must agree with Joe that the character Donovan posted looks a bit young to be tolerated by our community's standards--yes, we do have them. DONOVANPOST

We have standards because if we do not have some sort of line, some sort of law, that troll could use Donovan's post to make good on his threat to report F95zone to child abuse authorities and get us all banned. I love this place. I come here every day to help out and share and be part of this community. I hope that guy was just blowing smoke.

Whatever the case, we all have seen kids. We all know what they look like. If what Fusion spits out looks like a cartoon kid, maybe keep hitting the button, adjust her heights and if you like mozzie bites, make sure she's got a few miles on them before sharing. That's the best bet to ensure F95zone stays right where it is, whether owned by Patreon or not. :geek:

Here is my take on Donovan's girl... small tits, 168cm, and hopefully nothing for dumb shit trolls to complain about.:ROFLMAO:
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Actually I think that card was scaled down to that size to fit a map I was doing a scene for. It was some race queen scene I got off Bepis, and i was just replacing the character with my char and I remembered wondering why everything was such a small scale. I do start my cards at 0 height and 0 head size and scale up using the the AMX Body xyz to 110 or 120 etc depending on how tall the character should be. originally it was because I thought it would help with warping. Turns out it was the leg xyz the whole time but now most of my cards are just like that and too much work to go back and size them up proportionally. Also I rarely use the cards in the game itself so I lose track of height (but not proportion). I'm sure if I did I'd be just as 'wtf' as you with the height.

Just like I have some maps I have to scale up for. I see an awful lot of cards where the characters are somewhere in the vicinity of 7 feet tall. I'm guessing scaled up for VR? Or maybe just troll cards on Bepis.

Anyway THAT'S why she's so small, but she was not intended to be underage, just scaled down. (the boob thing.. seriously, they're small but they're there, originally she was going to be a ballerina but I went the cat girl route because, cat girl)

Sorry for causing a ruckus, I get the concern, I really do, I was actually just answering the post that used my card with their own take on it since he said he didn't know the original author. change it to your heart's content, that's what cards are for : give her a boob job, hell give her an addadicktome and make her a futa, whatever floats your boat. ;)

I'll go back to lurker status now.
 

JDonovan

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Didn´t neither want to harm you nor to "ban" (I´m no Mod, so I can´t) ;)
Maybe in your mind your character was intended to be an adult, but it doesn´t seem so for others - viewed as objectively as possible.

My comment was just a good advice, so sry if I made you pissed.

Anyway the choice is up to you............
See my previous post for more on the size stuff, but I meant ban the post, not me ;) I thought the post was deleted? Now it's not? anyway sorry I switched audiences mid sentence I didn't mean that directly at you. I appreciate the advice, and understand the concern. I do know the rules and respect them but didn't realize there were that many that think any character with small breasts is a child and are looking to pick up a pitchfork and torch (and again, the height thing.. see above, it's not height it's scale) ,

and that also wasn't aimed at you, it's aimed at Nexora from what I can tell. I totally missed the Nexora post and now I'm kind of bummed that I did ;)

Again, I appreciate the advice, but if the advice is 'change your art (and I use the term loosely) so people won't be able to twist it into something it's not to fit their attention-getting agenda', well, thanks, I'll pass. As I said above, I'll just go back to lurker status and not disturb the piranha pool.
 

JDonovan

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Oh and to the Moderators: I did mean 'go ahead and delete the post if it's a problem' when I said 'ban what you want'. Seriously, if it's going to be taken the wrong way then yeah, it should be removed. It was never my intention to cause problems.
 

turbojoe

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I thought the post was deleted? Now it's not?
Nope - only the Nexora Troll posting, and I guess his account too. And automatically 1 posting from Kasejin replying to it.
Nexora was prominent in similar behaviour in other threads here, so banning him is well earned ;)

If you´re interested I can pn you screenshots of concerned postings.
 

El' Capitan

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Nope - only the Nexora Troll posting, and I guess his account too. And automatically 1 posting from Kasejin replying to it.
Nexora was prominent in similar behaviour in other threads here, so banning him is well earned ;)

If you´re interested I can pn you screenshots of concerned postings.
I would say because Donovan's character does not "technically" infringe on Rule 7:
Content (a game, image, video, story, animation, etc.) depicting nudity, sexualization or sexual/erotic activity involving prepubescent character(s) is prohibited. A "prepubescent character" is one that visually shows no sign of puberty, or if non-visual is otherwise clearly intended to represent a prepubescent character. 2D and 'unrealistic' depictions are generally looked upon more favorably. As this involves some discretion, if you are unsure ask a Staff Member.
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Your character is shown clothed, and just standing there. Nothing sexualized about that, however young she is perceived in the game. (y) The troll shit may be able to get F95Zone shutdown because of its links to piracy and uber-quality filthofun. But I honestly doubt it will ever be for breaking Rule 7.;)

In any case, I intend to any treat my characters who fuse out as 5 feet tall and under as potentially problematic to share--and just raise their heights & tit sizes a tad to be sure.
 
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turbojoe

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Hi Turbo-San
So, any non-grow-up representiation of a human being is forbiden here? Even if it is non sexualized? General Site Rule number 7 https://f95zone.to/threads/general-rules-updated-2024-03-18.5589/ is clear in what should not be posted.
Your character is shown clothed, and just standing there. Nothing sexualized about that, however young she is perceived in the game. (y)
Don´t forget the main intention of HS2: to play H-Scenes with the card characters.
To get an obviousley prepubescent character naked for that and play sex scenes may well be a violation against rule 7.

Ok, that´s my interpretation of this rule, I concede others may have another approach to this fact.
 
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Not that I feel like getting into an argument about it, but that character was supposed to represent an athletic build/ dancer build, not an underage character. Apparently though, every female adult has to have huge breasts and thighs, just like the real world eh?.

I am the creator of that card, and I can therefore tell you for sure, that she is meant to be an adult, early 20s. ban what you want. I won't post here again.
[Scene: a court-room, the case of The State vs. P. Dough-Bear in progress]

Prosecutor: The defendent was caught in flagrante delicto with Miss Emma Smith; "balls deep", as they say. He was heard saying "Yeah, take that cock". A rape kit taken after the incident matched his DNA.

Judge: Mr. Dough-Bear, what do you have to say for yourself?

P. Dough-Bear: Yeah, I totally bare-backed that babe. But she's totally 18, your honor!

Judge: She's less than a meter tall and was wearing a SpongeBob t-shirt. How could you possibly think that she's 18?

P. Dough-Bear: The boobs, your honor! The boobs and butts don't lie!
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Judge: ... You're right, they don't lie. Acquitted!
 
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Kaseijin

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Don´t forget the main intention of HS2: to play H-Scenes with the card characters.
To get an obviousley prepubescent character naked for that and play sex scenes may well be a violation against rule 7.

Ok, that´s my interpretation of this rule, I concede others may have another approach to this fact.
Hi!
I understad your point, however there is something that somehow upset me. Is the fact that some people look thoughtfully a single, small, slight sign of "violation" to some standars. I mean, If I upload a card, of a representation of a human being, clothed, no sugestive or non-sexualized it is ok (as there is no broken rule), BUT some kind of Karen load the card, and somehow finds out that the satndars of his/her/it point of view are that is violating to some rule, then this is bad?

C'mon, this is a game, A intercourse simulator, as Call of duty is a war simulator, GTA is a real life simulator, in where if YOU want, can kill NPC's.

the measure plugin is not present in main game but in chara creator. the game itself allow to modify the parameters, if I want (IF ONE WANTS) can make a more younger representation of a human being. The use you (the user) gave the use, legal or illegal, in the own game that depends in each person. The "bad " thing is TO "Display" something that all here know is bad, the rule 7 say it clearly. I once make VNGE's, and use models, not only to make them represent having sex, but the history, the tale i am relating needs so, in such case I simply can not use any non-mature representation of a human being cuz "it is bad"?
Anyway, If in this forum, are prohibit to upload an image that Karen thinks is bad, I won't upload anything, and encourage all artist to do the same, better look up for another site to share.
This is a nice community, Talking this topics make us grow, the opposite to fight that only divide us.
 
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Come on guys, it is only a game!

We can kill inocent civilians in "No Russians" mission on Call Of Duty Modern Warfare 2 even women and kids, and it is supposed to be funny and then this?

This is a porn warez forum with a game for agreed intercourse scenes, no raping. But after all, and above all it is only A GAME! It's not the real life. It's not real, it won't make you do the things you do in this game in real life. Otherwise we would be killing people like GTA style!
 

Kaseijin

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Come on guys, it is only a game!

We can kill inocent civilians in "No Russians" mission on Call Of Duty Modern Warfare 2 even women and kids, and it is supposed to be funny and then this?

This is a porn warez forum with a game for agreed intercourse scenes, no raping. But after all, and above all it is only A GAME! It's not the real life. It's not real, it won't make you do the things you do in this game in real life. Otherwise we would be killing people like GTA style!
You hit the nail!!
basically, the chara maker allows you to make a...representation of a living being, the younger "oneself wants". The same some users here "Rework" the card that they encounter "Unconfortable" to their standards. The same way some users "Shrink" some other models to theyr own tastes. A.K.A Young Lara, Young Emma, Bere Delphine Younger, etc.
The card itself is not offensive, the problems came when some suceptible person finds it offensive. Should this be the standard from now? If it is so, then I will avoid to upload or share anything alike, in solidarity to this Forum, cuz I am here for own will.

My advice for the persons who still wants to share their work: Post only cards showing face, add a description in the age of the fictional model, and a disclaimer, so there is no troubles in the future.

Here is a card:
Name: Monika
Age : 42
Measurements: N/A
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El' Capitan

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This is a nice community, Talking this topics make us grow, the opposite to fight that only divide us.
Beautifully put, Kaseijin! We are doing just that as we type. :)
Don´t forget the main intention of HS2: to play H-Scenes with the card characters.
You are right, Joe. That's why I also modified the original and posted it with a more suitable body. But the original post remains. It's immediate depiction not "technically" infringing on the rules is the only reason I can figure the moderators left the character posted--unless they just missed it, of course. Let's look at the law one more time...
7. Content (a game, image, video, story, animation, etc.) depicting nudity, sexualization or sexual/erotic activity involving prepubescent character(s) is prohibited. A "prepubescent character" is one that visually shows no sign of puberty, or if non-visual is otherwise clearly intended to represent a prepubescent character. 2D and 'unrealistic' depictions are generally looked upon more favorably. As this involves some discretion, if you are unsure ask a Staff Member.
It states "content", meaning a digital container or "vessel" that contains something which depicts nudity, sexualization or sexual/erotic activity involving prepubescent character(s). Honey Select 2 effectively becomes such a vessel IF a card can load a character designed by its author as "prepubescent" in appearance.

So does this mean the moderators made a mistake in leaving Donovan's post up? Or is Kaseijin right about his "Face ID only" posting? Can people post any form of character here at F95zone so long as its immediately posted depiction is not visually sexual in nature? The administrator may need to offer their interpretation of Donovan's post so there is no further question.
 
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