Unless the identity of the snakes varies between playthroughs, Azalia won't be one of the snakes of the prophecy, since she only exists if Elis marries Isis. Her snake appearance is likely connected with the story told in the vision of the traveler who saved a snake, and does not mean she is one of the three snakes/puppeteers. The vision's meaning is likely how Isis is 'harmless' to Elis up until their children are born/grown. I think even Ludwig flats out tells you that on a scene.
And whoever spoke of wives is talking about concubines. The Chinese Harem, or How the Chinese Sought to Bureaucratize Even Love Anyone even slightly familiar with Chinese history knows one incontrovertible truth: if something can be organized, controlled, recorded, and ranked, the Chinese will do it. Bureaucracy was more than just a system of governance; it was a philosophy that permeated all spheres of Imperial life, from taxation to the construction of the Great Wall. But the pinnacle of this bureaucratic genius was, perhaps, its application to the most personal and irrational institution of power—the Imperial Harem. While in Europe, royal mistresses were more often the subject of scandal and whispers, in China they became part of the state apparatus, and passion a strictly regulated position. Bureaucracy Born from Chaos The Harem (or Inner Court) was more than just a dwelling place for concubines; It was a separate, closed world, numbering hundreds, sometimes thousands, of women, not to mention tens of thousands of eunuchs and servants. Without strict regulations, this world would have become a breeding ground for intrigue, conspiracy, and, worst of all for officials, uncontrolled influence. This is precisely why the state approached the management of the harem with the same seriousness as it did the governance of a province. An example of bureaucracy in action: To control this vast structure, a complex hierarchy was created, often overseen by the Imperial Household Department (Nei Wu Fu). Within this department, special departments operated, tasked with overseeing everything that happened in the Inner Court, from the distribution of silk to the order of "summoning" concubines to the Son of Heaven. The concubines themselves were divided into strict ranks, which were strictly regulated and often enshrined in law: Empress (Huanghou) – the only legal rank, "First Lady." Higher ranks (Guifei, Fei, Bin) – the most influential concubines, often referred to as "Consorts" or "Consorts." Their number was strictly limited (for example, two Guifei, four Fei, and six Bin). Junior ranks (Guiren, Changzai, Dain) – the lowest ranks, whose number could reach hundreds. Each rank had its own staff of maids, an annual allowance of silver and silk, and a specified amount of food (meat, tea, coal). There were even special eunuch registrars who kept the emperor's "visit log," ensuring that no heir could appear without proper bureaucratic registration. The Irony of Regulation Herein lay the ultimate irony: feelings, intimate relationships, and the birth of heirs—the most unpredictable things in human life—were squeezed into tables, charts, and limits worthy of a financial report. The Emperor could love a woman, but he couldn't simply promote her rank if it violated the established quotas. Eunuchs, formally the lowest caste, often became de facto "harem ministers," regulating access to the Emperor's body and, in essence, controlling who would have the chance to produce an heir to the throne. Chinese bureaucracy couldn't make love predictable, but it made it manageable. And for an official, what could be more important? Anything not written down doesn't exist. And even passion, lacking official rank, was nothing more than a fleeting phantom in the rigidly structured Inner Court.
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Alright restarting playthroughs to get to current update:
My plan -
Warrior with saves Green and White - Ring Seraphina, Cass, Elin and Aurora/Isis - Lust Queen
Bookworm with saves green and white - Ring Seraphina, Cass, Elin and Aurora/Isis - Love Queen
My plan -
Warrior with saves Green and White - Ring Seraphina, Cass, Elin and Aurora/Isis - Lust Queen
Bookworm with saves green and white - Ring Seraphina, Cass, Elin and Aurora/Isis - Love Queen
If the snake varies through playthroughs that means Isis can't be the snake either. If it does vary through playthroughs that might mean Azalia is one of the snakes
Probably just going to be Imperial chronicles chapter 2. A lot of devs divide chapters/seasons to separate downloads and then you just transfer over saves.
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Damn, I just decided to replay the whole Val sequence again. As I skipped through it pretty fast originally so I could get to killing my arch-enemy. But I've now realised how awkward it's going to be if/when my Elis ever runs into Val again in CH2. What with the whole...
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Okay, I do kinda feel a little bad now...
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Okay, I do kinda feel a little bad now...
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Hope not and if there is hopefully it will be avoidable i am not a foot fetish guy. Fyi i have not played this yet but it is on my list to get to lol got 3gb hdd space left right now. It sounds like it will be a fun game.
I don't mean the first coup invitation
It was the second coup invitation when she used Lia to threaten us
She's not weak, as far as what happened she could actually see through Cass, however, she only acts if something harms her child and Elis.
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Just finished the update and I enjoyed it very much.
Storyline keeps me engaged & it feels unpredictable & keeps me guessing.
I'm looking forward to Chapter 2.
Though some things I noticed Lazy_Monkey :
1) On all routes;
I feel like this has to be Elis who speaks that initial line and is a name mistakenly put as Elin.
2) Support Cass in coup route (Green Crown)
Uh, this is what appears in White Crown route (not supporting Cass's coup), so I don't think this should be appearing with Green Crown ending, but it somehow is.
Also another issue with the same ending,
No idea what the issue is here (again, Green Crown ending).
3) All routes - text being cut off by the screen.
This isn't the first time this has happened. This game since beginning, had frequently been plagued with this issue of bottom text being cut. And sure, it's not something major like a game breaking bug, but it happens enough to be annoying and I do think something should be done to fix it.
Storyline keeps me engaged & it feels unpredictable & keeps me guessing.
I'm looking forward to Chapter 2.
Though some things I noticed Lazy_Monkey :
1) On all routes;
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2) Support Cass in coup route (Green Crown)
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Uh, this is what appears in White Crown route (not supporting Cass's coup), so I don't think this should be appearing with Green Crown ending, but it somehow is.
Also another issue with the same ending,
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No idea what the issue is here (again, Green Crown ending).
3) All routes - text being cut off by the screen.
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This isn't the first time this has happened. This game since beginning, had frequently been plagued with this issue of bottom text being cut. And sure, it's not something major like a game breaking bug, but it happens enough to be annoying and I do think something should be done to fix it.
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Thanks to both of you, yeah at this point I won't restart it again, I've already done it twice, as long as it's consensual I'll be happy...
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I had the same bugs.
Lazy_Monkey
Another thing, and this is me asking for something which is absurd but just want to state it, but I apologize in advance as it is the kind of comment that really sounds like "please write the game how I LIKE IT". I am concerned of the choice of kill Cass. Given that she can no longer show up in routes, doesn't it generate incentives not to include her in paths even when alive, as it is simpler to just write a scene without thinking of having to write an alternative version.
I love the potential paths, but I am concerned of the incentives here, given she is not a side character but a main character, and in my opinion best girl.. Again, sorry for the "spoiled" concerned.
Anyway, I love the game and I have recently subscribed to it, amazing job!
Oh, by the way, I do hope Corina becomes a more regular girl, absolutely loved her.
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more justice made for the love route
Lazy_Monkey you can add to the game if want probably 2 more angles to animate but out of gems now only tomorrow xD for the rest of fans who follow love route and fell left behind ENJOY
Lazy_Monkey you can add to the game if want probably 2 more angles to animate but out of gems now only tomorrow xD for the rest of fans who follow love route and fell left behind ENJOY
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Literally every character called her weak. Even in the vision her own daughter called her weak
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Dude, it was funny when it was jokes, but if we're being serious. You're letting your headcanon and fanfic blind you to what's actually happening in the game. Alaina can't twist the lie to blackmail Elis. Elis is part of her plan. He's the only chance for the elves. She tells him so herself. Destroying his legitimacy in any way is a death sentence for all elves. That's what you're either not understanding or refusing to understand. That's exactly why she won't reveal anything to the court. Even as she's dying. The fact that you're even trying to argue this just shows you're doing this in bad faith.You're really not giving Alaina enough credit here. How and why, would she not just leave out the parts of "Elven Intervention"? and instead just make up some bullshit other rumor that leaves her looking clean as a whistle and casts doubt on Elis father. All it takes is her desire to do so.
To show you how ridiculous your suggestion sounds.
Alaina - Do what I want or I'll whisper to the court that the King isn't really the king.
Outcome: Elis potentially losing his position, because he's the son of a usurper and some elven whore. Elves now lost the only person who'll be able to unite them. Since the marriage was invalid, the treaty with the elves is void. How does this help Alaina again? If you're going to say next that she can start over, with an elven conflict brewing. I'm just going to stop you ahead of time by telling you that it's ridiculous. Alaina loses everything there just like Elis.
This blackmail doesn't work at all. Even Elis should be able to see this himself. And again, she never used this information against him in the first place. It literally doesn't make sense for an elf to basically torpedo her own race chances by making their Elven jesus doubt them. Making up bullshit rumors is only your headcanon showing because you can't truly find a valid way for Alaina to blackmail Elis. She's just as tied to the King and Elis as they are to her plan. She ruins the king position, Elis dies. Then the elves dies next. Ruin Elis position specifically, elves die.
First off, try reading the full exchange of posts before jumping into someone else conversation. You're just making yourself look overly defensive and insecure about your choice you made. Second, she surely tried controlling Elis by letting him waste away in exile without trying to get him to be pro elven. An exile she did to protect him from the court politics with Sera blessing, by the way. Hell, by all accounts, Alaina was a horrible teacher. Since Elis didn't learn shit from her. And before you say it was intentional on her part. That wouldn't help her at all to control him. As can be seen with the current choices in the game.What do you mean "she didn't have to tell him shit?"
As for Conrad part of the discussion, it's exactly like I said to the guy I was actually talking to. She revealed the information to show Elis that she's doing this all for him. That information isn't something that should be spread around easily. As like I said above multiple times now. This would completely destroy everything for the elves, if it spread. Not just Elis, Sera and the others. This includes Alaina herself. There's a reason Elis can choose to trust her after she tells him or exile her, if he has further doubts. A potential "canon" feeling doesn't suggest an overall feeling. Especially when said "canon" has more options to keep Alaina alive currently than to kill her. Either by exiling her, keeping the status quo or ignoring her entirely to focus on Conrad. Especially when compared to Cass, who has like 4 different ways to be killed.
And with the rest of your post below that. I already figured you weren't going to have anything meaningful to add. So I won't even bother indulging you with anything there. I'll just say the discussion has now reached a point where you clearly have shown you have a set way of viewing things and choose not to look anywhere outside of it. So I won't personally be discussing this topic with you going forward. I'm sure you'll conjure up a rebuttal. I'll read it. But I don't see any point in discussing this with you.
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I missed Valeria, Josephine and Priscilla so badly in this update. They are my top 3 girls in this game and I know since they all are situated in the West, their appearance was simply not possible in this update and also looking forward to see the addition of Arcadia in Chapter 2 still feel bad about people voting for Val instead of Arcadia for 1.1 update and look what you guys got? A freaking kiss
I am pretty sure if it was Arcadia then we would have seen a good amount of scenes with her.
still feel bad about people voting for Val instead of Arcadia for 1.1 update and look what you guys got? A freaking kiss I am pretty sure if it was Arcadia then we would have seen a good amount of scenes with her.
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Yep. Chapter 2 will definitely be interesting to see. On one hand, I want a big time skip so we can start interacting with our children. Like seeing Azalia at 4 trying to climb shit, spying on her mother. But on the other hand, I want to see the progression of the pregnancy. So I hope it's a bit of both.
To be honest, are they wrong though? People have discussed this in the thread before the update and now the game pretty much validates that thinking even more. Aurora just was raised to be a loyal wife and mother of someone's child. Which is fine, if you're into that thing. But when it comes to ruling or political stuff, she's not fit for it.
I think it's a bit too far that even her daughter thinks she should be abandoned though. Even as a vision, that feels too cruel.