I don't really get what Alaina supposedly did wrong either or the rabid hate she seems to be getting. The comments call her Hitler just seem weird to me. Like even if you want to blame her for the Cass's mom thing the king and Queen both were in on it. Alaina hasn't really done anything other than try and make sure Elis gets the throne
Including getting him to be born in the first place lol
When I tried it yesterday. It said virus deteched and blocked it. Today it allowed it. When I go to defender history it doesn't show it. only shows it in the download file drop down on the browser.
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I think it's a bad idea to get rid of Alaina or Conrad. It would disrupt the status quo and give one side more power over the prince. Alaina is a puppeteer and Conrad is a disrespectful hatemonger so unless we also get a chance to remove the remaining side from the board in chapter 2, I will continue to keep them both.
But, say LM gives us a chance to get rid of them both? That would allow the prince to forge his own path without being influenced by elves or humans and that would be my chosen route absolutely. Middle of the road, a unifying force like Val wants him to be.
But, say LM gives us a chance to get rid of them both? That would allow the prince to forge his own path without being influenced by elves or humans and that would be my chosen route absolutely. Middle of the road, a unifying force like Val wants him to be.
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After reading a few comment, now I'm really confused and not sure if I'm in the love or corruption path with the queen/mom, both seems to have a lot of passion that for sure, I did my best to avoid any situation where the MC takes advantage of the characters when they are drunk or things like that, but now I feel bad because I think I took advantage of her libido issue, I was sure that was the love path because she seemed to want it too...
DrakoGhoul
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If you're dealing with her libido issues, then you're on the lust route. The route itself being determined by the choice you made in the pool with Sera in the illusion. All of the other choices don't currently matter prior to that. As for if Lust or Love is better. It's really down to what you want out of the relationship. I don't think they'll differ much.
People prefer Sera saying directly that she loves and want Elis. Others might prefer the corruption aspect of it. Both lead to the same thing, really. Sera still loves Elis regardless.
Josephine is hot but her scene is terrible. You could hardly see anything because of the Camera angles
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To get to the path of love:
1) After talking to the Elves, you'll have a dialogue with her: agree with her.
2) In the previous episode, you had the opportunity to kiss her; do so.
After that, in the new episode, you'll get scenes with her on the path of love.Only decisions made during one's stay in the West are taken into account; everything that happened before that apparently has little significance.
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That's actually an interesting perspective. Even Ludwig the Cat said to remain neutral as long as possible. But I think in that case, we'll still have to make a decision sooner or later.
Edit:: I don't know about others, but when I chose the status quo after talking to Serafina, a bug occurred on the final slides. Although, maybe that's the intention...
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I think it was done mostly for pure shock value. It was so out of left field and I fucking loved it. Nice to see Elis actually get his hands dirty and do something.
MY EMPEROR!!!
No she doesn't you're right. She just once again, for some unknown reason, HINTS at revealing it like some form of blackmail. Just like how she does if instead of pretending to trust her previously, you just call her a traitor. Right before she flees through a portal, what does she say. "Remember what I know" which in my head. Is just a pure threat of blackmail again. Which IMO is a very strange thing to say, if you're really trying to argue that you're loyal to someone. Hinting at revealing something like that when they don't instantly trust you, is a choice. Oh wait, it's because she's a control freak and can't let go of being Elis Puppetmaster...
As for why her and not mother, it's like I said before. IMO, she will now always choose her kids, over the "elven cause" which is perfect for me. Because I want to end, the bloody elven cause.
And I'm just really not a fan of how Alaina handles that scene anyway, vs if you accuse Conrad instead. He handles it like someone who is actually loyal IMO, just frustrated. Just tells Elis he's making a stupid choice removing someone who is actually Loyal, and then leaves.
VS Alaina, who I was going to kill regardless. But she made it rather easy tbh, as she threatens to kill people, then has to be restrained. Because she can't handle not being in control of a situation. She then proceeds to attempt to throw her long term "friend" Sera under the bus with her. And then when that fails, once again brings up the blackmail type shit like that's going to help her...
She's a classic case to me of that ol saying of 'No one can serve two masters' and she already has her master in the form of her little Elven cause. Therefore, not trustworthy to be in a powerful position like she's in. And she knows far too much sensitive information to be allowed to live. Simple really. She had to go.
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We'll have to wait until Chapter 2, but if Alaina is a snake like Cass. I think people who killed her but refused to kill Cass are in for some real heartbreak. That's why I get a bit of a good laugh when people only do things halfway. People didn't want to kill Cass because she's part of the prophecy and she was believed to be Elis sister at the time. But now they're potentially diving head first into the snake dead end by killing Alaina via being recklessly.
I'm here for it either way, since the goal of my Isis playthrough is pure chaos. No half steps or anything like that. Humans, Elves or anyone else, it doesn't matter.
Maybe I need to reread that scene but it didn't sound like she was implying blackmail at all it was the opposite. She sounded more like she was trying to convince Elis of her loyalty by talking about how she kept it secret the whole time
A cause is not a master it's a motivation. It's her motivation for serving Elis and she's choosing to put her faith in the idea that he'll help the elves. I don't really see what's wrong with that. That's probably the case for every character except the Mom and Elin who are just loyal because they're related. All the vassals and everyone else support Elis based one their expectations for him rather than just blind support
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To be honest, I trust Alaina more than Conrad. She's been with us since our banishment. I know Conrad is family, but if I have to choose between him and Alaina, I'm picking the one who's been by our side. Also, since Conrad was the MC father servant, he probably has his own secrets.
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I just read it as being the dumbest fucking thing she could have brought up. She could have argued her innocence, tried to convince her lovely friend Sera, tried anything really. Instead she does everything wrong and just flamed my dislike of her more. Well she ain't "playing chess" with my little emperor anymore. I only wish I could have had Elis fucking Fortnite dance on her corpse after or something. Really drive home the disrespect...
Her cause is 100% her master. She's bound to it, would do anything for it. Including die for it or sacrifice others for it. Sounds like a master to me. I don't trust her, never did. Just like if this game had some religious zealot preacher nut. I wouldn't be very trusting of him either. I want people who are going to be loyal to my main man Elis at his side, no matter what fucked up shit he might want to do. Not some puppetmaster hoebag.
But she's the one who orchestrated that whole "being by our side the whole time" thing?? And it was just so she could keep her little puppet close...
Fuck that woman.
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She does argue her innocence
Yes, so it literally everyone else that's the entire point. That's the whole reason the vassals are vassals in the first place and the reason why the empire broke up. Nobody outside of Elis's mom and sisters are blindly loyal. Everyone else is loyal because they believe Elis is going to do what they want.
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So now there are 3 characters that can either be alive or dead. Either the amount of scenes they can play a part in are going to shrink, or the plot flags calling up scene combinations are going to get crazy.
As I said last time we talked I feel like you're pretty bias when it comes to characters and if you already dislike a character(Alania, Isis) you assume the worse possible thing about them, but if you like a character(Cass,Aurora) you tend to over look things. I don't really see the point in discussing motivation with you because you will always see those characters you dislike in the worse light possible even if there is an explainable reason for their actions. In my opinion you always misread those character and try to make their actions 10 times worse than they actually are like the Isis letters to home thing, which to me just read like a pretty harmless prank. Nothing I got in that scene made it sound like Alania was trying to play chess or blackmail Elis
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