VN Ren'Py Imperial Chronicles [v0.12] [Lazy Monkey]

[GibboBtw]

Maybe I need to reread that scene but it didn't sound like she was implying blackmail at all it was the opposite. She sounded more like she was trying to convince Elis of her loyalty by talking about how she kept it secret the whole time

I just read it as being the dumbest fucking thing she could have brought up. She could have argued her innocence, tried to convince her lovely friend Sera, tried anything really. Instead she does everything wrong and just flamed my dislike of her more. Well she ain't "playing chess" with my little emperor anymore. I only wish I could have had Elis fucking Fortnite dance on her corpse after or something. Really drive home the disrespect...

A cause is not a master it's a motivation. It's her motivation for serving Elis and she's choosing to put her faith in the idea that he'll help the elves. I don't really see what's wrong with that. That's probably the case for every character except the Mom and Elin who are just loyal because they're related. All the vassals and everyone else support Elis based one their expectations for him rather than just blind support

Her cause is 100% her master. She's bound to it, would do anything for it. Including die for it or sacrifice others for it. Sounds like a master to me. I don't trust her, never did. Just like if this game had some religious zealot preacher nut. I wouldn't be very trusting of him either. I want people who are going to be loyal to my main man Elis at his side, no matter what fucked up shit he might want to do. Not some puppetmaster hoebag.

To be honest, I trust Alaina more than Conrad. She's been with us since our banishment. I know Conrad is family, but if I have to choose between him and Alaina, I'm picking the one who's been by our side. Also, since Conrad was the MC father servant, he probably has his own secrets.

But she's the one who orchestrated that whole "being by our side the whole time" thing?? And it was just so she could keep her little puppet close... Fuck that woman.

 

[falconhawk223]

She could have argued her innocence

She does argue her innocence

Her cause is 100% her master. She's bound to it, would do anything for it. Including die for it or sacrifice others for it.

Yes, so it literally everyone else that's the entire point. That's the whole reason the vassals are vassals in the first place and the reason why the empire broke up. Nobody outside of Elis's mom and sisters are blindly loyal. Everyone else is loyal because they believe Elis is going to do what they want.

 

[The_Man_With_No_Name]

So now there are 3 characters that can either be alive or dead. Either the amount of scenes they can play a part in are going to shrink, or the plot flags calling up scene combinations are going to get crazy.

 

[falconhawk223]

I just read it as being the dumbest fucking thing she could have brought up. She could have argued her innocence, tried to convince her lovely friend Sera, tried anything really. Instead she does everything wrong and just flamed my dislike of her more.

As I said last time we talked I feel like you're pretty bias when it comes to characters and if you already dislike a character(Alania, Isis) you assume the worse possible thing about them, but if you like a character(Cass,Aurora) you tend to over look things. I don't really see the point in discussing motivation with you because you will always see those characters you dislike in the worse light possible even if there is an explainable reason for their actions. In my opinion you always misread those character and try to make their actions 10 times worse than they actually are like the Isis letters to home thing, which to me just read like a pretty harmless prank. Nothing I got in that scene made it sound like Alania was trying to play chess or blackmail Elis

 

[dodgingnoir]

Hi Filipis, does you android port come with a walk-trough built in?

 

[DRinWV]

What did it say?
Tried scanning it on jotti and virus total, didn't find anything. (Not on windows so can't check defender)

Ok Found the actual Defender entry.

 

[DrakoGhoul]

To be honest, I trust Alaina more than Conrad. She's been with us since our banishment. I know Conrad is family, but if I have to choose between him and Alaina, I'm picking the one who's been by our side. Also, since Conrad was the MC father servant, he probably has his own secrets.

Conrad had the potential to be way more dangerous than Alaina to Elis. Especially if he knew about the fact that his oldest brother took over after his older brother was killed. Since Conrad would legitimately be the next person who's supposed to sit on the throne.

If that truth ever got out, it wouldn't be surprising if Elis whole family got killed. And you best believe Cass will feel some type of way about it. Since Alaina did all of that basically for Elis. And that negatively affected Cass the most.

Unfortunately though, I think the whole Conrad stuff is going to be rather minor going forward. Since he can be killed now, if I'm not mistaken. I haven't did the scene yet.

 

[Strategus]

Out of curiosity after finishing the patch, how many people here are ride or die for Cass, lol?

 

[Lord Kata]

I still hope we get to see Josephine again in the future. Still the hottest scene in the game

Yes can’t wait for more Josephine and Alaina in chap 2

 

[GibboBtw]

She does argue her innocence

Incredibly poorly. And then just lashes out and attempts to throws her friend under the bus with her. Instead of talking to her and trying to convince her at least.

Yes, so it literally everyone else that's the entire point. That's the whole reason the vassals are vassals in the first place and the reason why the empire broke up. Nobody outside of Elis's mom and sisters are blindly loyal. Everyone else is loyal because they believe Elis is going to do what they want.

Not necessarily. Some people that are vassals will be loyal simply because it's the status-quo. I don't think ALL of them are only loyal because they think they will get something. That would be mental. Some of them just want to rule in peace and are happy to do whatever their ruler wishes.

And as for the ones that will be loyal because "they think Elis is going to do what they want" As long as it's something that I actually intend for Elis to do, and isn't something I have no intention of ever doing, such as 'saving elvenkind' or some shit. But instead is something like 'restoring the empire', or 'wiping out the elves'. I accept them as my good bois, and I know we're going to do great things together. I've even actually already spotted one of my new #1 bois. A TRUE BELIEVER.

Spoiler: GOAT

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As I said last time we talked I feel like you're pretty bias when it comes to characters and if you already dislike a character(Alania, Isis) you assume the worse possible thing about them, but if you like a character(Cass,Aurora) you tend to over look things. I don't really see the point in discussing motivation with you because you will always see those characters you dislike in the worse light possible even if there is an explainable reason for their actions. In my opinion you always misread those character and try to make their actions 10 times worse than they actually are like the Isis letters to home thing, which to me just read like a pretty harmless prank. Nothing I got in that scene made it sound like Alania was trying to play chess or blackmail Elis

Oh for the love of god. How many times do I have to say this. I. Am. Biased. Against. Elves. I thought that would have been abundantly clear by now. Especially with the amount of times I've said it.

And as for not seeing anything wrong with Alaina, the dev himself has added things to backup parts of what I'm saying.

Spoiler: LIKE THIS, CHESS BABY.

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If I really was talking 100% nonsense here. Why would the Dev give us the option to kill her off like that? with the reasoning HE HIMSELF gives, being "she knows too much" "her not liking lack of control" and her "playing chess with our family as pawns"

It's all right there bro... The Dev clearly sees at least partly where I'm coming from. I'm trying to make Elis the master of his own destiny on the throne. Nobody trying to pull his strings and nobody trying to control him. So he can rule as he sees fit.

 

[burbero]

I can't believe that Alaina has been made the scapegoat. She is neither a blackmailer nor a puppet master. Blackmail involves coercion, and as far as I know, she never said, "Do this or I'll expose you." She was just trying to protect herself. Besides, she never whispered anything in Elis's ear. Elis isn't a puppet. It's true that Alaina is plotting and pulling strings, but she's doing it all for Elis, hoping that one day she can help the elves living lives of banditry. Can you really blame her? The people are suffering.
I don't believe Alaina is a threat. Even when accused, she doesn't reveal information. She threatens to, but even when she's exiled or beaten, she doesn't.

 

[DrakoGhoul]

I need more Arcadia, Josephine, Priscilla, Valeria and even more Sera in Chapter 2. Since Una kind of grew on me. I want some of her too. Basically, I need to plan a trip to the west.

It's actually kind of crazy on the pregnancy front now. Since we know Val was accounted for. That means Lockhart is going to be shocked when he finds out his mom and sister-in-law is pregnant. The same with Valerian finding out about his mom. If Sera and Elin are starting to show signs. Sera only being two weeks and Elin around a month or two. The women in the west are definitely feeling it as well.

That's why I need to know if there's going to be a major time skip for Chapter 2 or brief transitions in time to show the progress of the main women. I don't think it's going to skip the birth of Elis first set of children. And since a month was directly mentioned. I think that's the timeframe of the first minor skip.

 

[Doloto2022]

good

 

[burbero]

There's one more thing. I think humans are much worse than elves. Elis and her siblings are half-elves; her mother is an elf. Yet, humans and even their vassals insult and curse elves in front of Elis. If Conrad were a candidate for the throne, they would choose him without hesitation.

 

[With The]

Queen sex scene is too good that it almost makes us overlook how she seems to be hiding something. I don't think she's being completely honest with us.

 

[bZokko1]

So... with all these prophecies, visions etc. spoken and brewing about by so many tangible and intangible beings alike, I decided to start a little codex project. This is just the beginning but it should be finished soon if I decide to limit the project with only visions & prophecies. Other than summary and chronological pages, I am thinking of making a 'detective board' but since it will be a very subjective thing by its very nature I am hesitating for now.

Please let me know if I missed something or feel free to change and modify these as you like.

How do I make a *mod pin this to main page btw?

Spoiler: Visions & prophecies summary

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Spoiler: Chronological order of visions & prophecies

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(I should have started making a WT)

When I see this, the different paths and choices of last chapter... Maybe there is a different answer depending on path.
The who and why changes, we see multiple dimensions after all. White, Red and Green are general directions, but I don't think it locks you in.

First tail is Lady Alaina, she planned it and represent Elves. However I feel she might not be the only one here, Elin, might also fit here, and her behavior is becoming more and more Cass if you sleep with her. Mother also is somewhat shady.

Wrapped around the throne is Conrad, or potentially Isis. Human path I would say.

Cass is the DAGGER over the crown more than anything, the tool, the weapon. Regardless I feel this is the neutral path. She is not neutral, however she keeps the west on their toes, maybe even the elves and she wants the Empire, an Empire where she has considerable stake in it. She dying just opens up for another dagger to take her spot, west troubles?

I do wonder how the Moon fits in (mysterious lady ?), maybe it's none of them or all.
Many visions, many questions, a curse of not knowing and multiple entities trying to impact you. Which might explain your King's attempt to hold on to the throne, to protect you from technically being the king/emperor and thus be inflicted by a curse?

 

[Shabrani_Goudou]

Man this game is way too high IQ for me. Too many routes. Stuff you see in a route but not another. Colored endings. Mess in the West.

But somehow I love it.

I need a WT or a book or something, stuff's way too convoluted.

 

[DontBeAfraidKid]

Damn I left this forum at Page 254 and 24 hours later it is at Page 266, this thread went crazy after the update

 

[DrakoGhoul]

I can't believe that Alaina has been made the scapegoat. She is neither a blackmailer nor a puppet master. Blackmail involves coercion, and as far as I know, she never said, "Do this or I'll expose you." She was just trying to protect herself. Besides, she never whispered anything in Elis's ear. Elis isn't a puppet. It's true that Alaina is plotting and pulling strings, but she's doing it all for Elis, hoping that one day she can help the elves living lives of banditry. Can you really blame her? The people are suffering.
I don't believe Alaina is a threat. Even when accused, she doesn't reveal information. She threatens to, but even when she's exiled or beaten, she doesn't.

Alaina literally can't blackmail him with that information in the first place. It incriminates herself the most. What she's going to tell everyone by snitching on him? That he's not the rightful heir and that the only reason he's on the throne is because of elven intervention. They're just going to point the finger right back at her and group her with all other elves. Blackmail only works when the blackmailer is in the position of power. Alaina very much wasn't in the position of power.

The reason Alaina told Elis that in the first place was to convey how far she went for him. Since he had doubts. She didn't have to tell him shit, really. If she was against him. Just like how Cass didn't tell Elis anything if he didn't follow her requests enough.

There's one more thing. I think humans are much worse than elves. Elis and her siblings are half-elves; her mother is an elf. Yet, humans and even their vassals insult and curse elves in front of Elis. If Conrad were a candidate for the throne, they would choose him without hesitation.

We legitimately see on screen humans killing pregnant elven women for fun. Killing children and everything. Anyone who actually believes that humans are somehow saints in this game are delusional. There's no good sides in this story.

 

[W4Yt20]

God is sad with all the Alaina hate on here