DrakoGhoul
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Conrad had the potential to be way more dangerous than Alaina to Elis. Especially if he knew about the fact that his oldest brother took over after his older brother was killed. Since Conrad would legitimately be the next person who's supposed to sit on the throne.
If that truth ever got out, it wouldn't be surprising if Elis whole family got killed. And you best believe Cass will feel some type of way about it. Since Alaina did all of that basically for Elis. And that negatively affected Cass the most.
Unfortunately though, I think the whole Conrad stuff is going to be rather minor going forward. Since he can be killed now, if I'm not mistaken. I haven't did the scene yet.
Out of curiosity after finishing the patch, how many people here are ride or die for Cass, lol?
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Incredibly poorly. And then just lashes out and attempts to throws her friend under the bus with her. Instead of talking to her and trying to convince her at least.
Not necessarily. Some people that are vassals will be loyal simply because it's the status-quo. I don't think ALL of them are only loyal because they think they will get something. That would be mental. Some of them just want to rule in peace and are happy to do whatever their ruler wishes.
And as for the ones that will be loyal because "they think Elis is going to do what they want" As long as it's something that I actually intend for Elis to do, and isn't something I have no intention of ever doing, such as 'saving elvenkind' or some shit. But instead is something like 'restoring the empire', or 'wiping out the elves'. I accept them as my good bois, and I know we're going to do great things together.
I've even actually already spotted one of my new #1 bois. A TRUE BELIEVER.You don't have permission to view the spoiler content.
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Oh for the love of god. How many times do I have to say this. I. Am. Biased. Against. Elves. I thought that would have been abundantly clear by now. Especially with the amount of times I've said it.
And as for not seeing anything wrong with Alaina, the dev himself has added things to backup parts of what I'm saying.
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If I really was talking 100% nonsense here. Why would the Dev give us the option to kill her off like that? with the reasoning HE HIMSELF gives, being "she knows too much" "her not liking lack of control" and her "playing chess with our family as pawns"
It's all right there bro...
The Dev clearly sees at least partly where I'm coming from. I'm trying to make Elis the master of his own destiny on the throne. Nobody trying to pull his strings and nobody trying to control him. So he can rule as he sees fit.
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I can't believe that Alaina has been made the scapegoat. She is neither a blackmailer nor a puppet master. Blackmail involves coercion, and as far as I know, she never said, "Do this or I'll expose you." She was just trying to protect herself. Besides, she never whispered anything in Elis's ear. Elis isn't a puppet. It's true that Alaina is plotting and pulling strings, but she's doing it all for Elis, hoping that one day she can help the elves living lives of banditry. Can you really blame her? The people are suffering.
I don't believe Alaina is a threat. Even when accused, she doesn't reveal information. She threatens to, but even when she's exiled or beaten, she doesn't.
I don't believe Alaina is a threat. Even when accused, she doesn't reveal information. She threatens to, but even when she's exiled or beaten, she doesn't.
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I need more Arcadia, Josephine, Priscilla, Valeria and even more Sera in Chapter 2. Since Una kind of grew on me. I want some of her too. Basically, I need to plan a trip to the west.
It's actually kind of crazy on the pregnancy front now. Since we know Val was accounted for. That means Lockhart is going to be shocked when he finds out his mom and sister-in-law is pregnant. The same with Valerian finding out about his mom. If Sera and Elin are starting to show signs. Sera only being two weeks and Elin around a month or two. The women in the west are definitely feeling it as well.
That's why I need to know if there's going to be a major time skip for Chapter 2 or brief transitions in time to show the progress of the main women. I don't think it's going to skip the birth of Elis first set of children. And since a month was directly mentioned. I think that's the timeframe of the first minor skip.
It's actually kind of crazy on the pregnancy front now. Since we know Val was accounted for. That means Lockhart is going to be shocked when he finds out his mom and sister-in-law is pregnant. The same with Valerian finding out about his mom. If Sera and Elin are starting to show signs. Sera only being two weeks and Elin around a month or two. The women in the west are definitely feeling it as well.
That's why I need to know if there's going to be a major time skip for Chapter 2 or brief transitions in time to show the progress of the main women. I don't think it's going to skip the birth of Elis first set of children. And since a month was directly mentioned. I think that's the timeframe of the first minor skip.
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There's one more thing. I think humans are much worse than elves. Elis and her siblings are half-elves; her mother is an elf. Yet, humans and even their vassals insult and curse elves in front of Elis. If Conrad were a candidate for the throne, they would choose him without hesitation.
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When I see this, the different paths and choices of last chapter... Maybe there is a different answer depending on path.
The who and why changes, we see multiple dimensions after all. White, Red and Green are general directions, but I don't think it locks you in.
First tail is Lady Alaina, she planned it and represent Elves. However I feel she might not be the only one here, Elin, might also fit here, and her behavior is becoming more and more Cass if you sleep with her. Mother also is somewhat shady.
Wrapped around the throne is Conrad, or potentially Isis. Human path I would say.
Cass is the DAGGER over the crown more than anything, the tool, the weapon. Regardless I feel this is the neutral path. She is not neutral, however she keeps the west on their toes, maybe even the elves and she wants the Empire, an Empire where she has considerable stake in it. She dying just opens up for another dagger to take her spot, west troubles?
I do wonder how the Moon fits in (mysterious lady ?), maybe it's none of them or all.
Many visions, many questions, a curse of not knowing and multiple entities trying to impact you. Which might explain your King's attempt to hold on to the throne, to protect you from technically being the king/emperor and thus be inflicted by a curse?
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Man this game is way too high IQ for me. Too many routes. Stuff you see in a route but not another. Colored endings. Mess in the West.
But somehow I love it.
I need a WT or a book or something, stuff's way too convoluted.
But somehow I love it.
I need a WT or a book or something, stuff's way too convoluted.
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Damn I left this forum at Page 254 and 24 hours later it is at Page 266, this thread went crazy after the update
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Alaina literally can't blackmail him with that information in the first place. It incriminates herself the most. What she's going to tell everyone by snitching on him? That he's not the rightful heir and that the only reason he's on the throne is because of elven intervention. They're just going to point the finger right back at her and group her with all other elves. Blackmail only works when the blackmailer is in the position of power. Alaina very much wasn't in the position of power.
The reason Alaina told Elis that in the first place was to convey how far she went for him. Since he had doubts. She didn't have to tell him shit, really. If she was against him. Just like how Cass didn't tell Elis anything if he didn't follow her requests enough.
We legitimately see on screen humans killing pregnant elven women for fun. Killing children and everything. Anyone who actually believes that humans are somehow saints in this game are delusional. There's no good sides in this story.
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You're really not giving Alaina enough credit here. How and why, would she not just leave out the parts of "Elven Intervention"? and instead just make up some bullshit other rumor that leaves her looking clean as a whistle and casts doubt on Elis father. All it takes is her desire to do so.
What do you mean "she didn't have to tell him shit?"
It was plain as day to see that she was clearly losing control of the situation due to the whole thing with Conrad, and Elis was starting to doubt her more and more. That's the only reason she revealed anything. Because she was threatened, and was losing control. And I don't think anybody has ever said "she was against him" unless I'm mistaken? it's that she's trying to puppet him and control him from the shadows. Again, Elis says as much if you pick the path against her. So it's a potential canon feeling Elis can have towards her, that the Dev himself has realised.You don't have permission to view the spoiler content.
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Oh wow that's messed up.
Don't worry, my Elis is going to adopt a new mandatory policy to cover this. Known as "spawn killing" instead. It's gonna be like that ol saying of 'out of the frying pan, into the fire.' except in this case the "frying pan" will be a womb, and the fire will remain a fire.
uhhhhhhh that last one might have been a little bit too far...I'M JUST KIDDING...
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it's simple...i hate whoever i cannot rape or enslaveGod is sad with all the Alaina hate on here
but i did banish alaina so i get a chance to rape her later
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Okay, I just want to make clear that I am not associated with this man. I am not a proponent of rape and slavery. Only a little bit of genocide.it's simple...i hate whoever i cannot rape or enslave
Weren't you the one who already said that it was basically just shock value. The rest of mc's comments are just paranoia.and I never said she wasn't playing chess in general I said she wasn't playing chess or trying to manipulate Elis in that scene. She was just begging for mercy and promising that she could keep quite. She does play chess but not against Elis. And Alania never really had enough control over Elis in the first place to call him a puppet
I'm not really sure Isis would represent the human path. She says this update that southerners are treated almost as badly as elves are. And the whole vision with the daughter made it sound like her bloodline is special somehow and feels like a rival to the starhead blood. Isis kind of feels like a conqueror everyone kind of thing
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No, it would've been ruined if 1.0 was the last we saw of them before the time skip, but LM did manage to turn the situation around with 1.1: the Queen now doesn't mind having sex with MC anymore (she calls it a beautiful mistake).Dang, so from what I am hearing here the Love path got short changed again with the queen. I stopped playing mid way through, cause I had problems with some of the pathing choices and locked scenes based on class, but was excited to give this another chance.
But I guess not. If Lazy_Monkey doesn't care about the Love path and can't give if equal treatment, why should I care. He obviously only cares about Lust path. Its just mood killing and sucks all enjoyment, cause I want love path, but when he shows favoritism, what's the point.
He should just remove love path all together if this is what he planned to do. Just very letdown that the dev doesn't seem to care.
The only issue still remains is that the Love path doesn't have any foreseeable reward for being patient - Seraphina gets pregnant on all paths, so why not just go Lust path and get all those sweet nasty scenes with her from the start of the game? Before 1.1, I assumed that the Love path would have Seraphina agree to bear your children, but evidently, her pregnancy is unavoidable no matter the path, so the Love path simply doesn't have any advantage over the Lust path - she even talks more about getting pregnant on the Lust path than the Love path (even if she actively asks for MC to cum inside her, compared to "panicking" about creampies on the Lust path).