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One thing i dislike about side girl is, LM make their path closed is we didnt choose them on first encounter. Even Lia path also close if we didnt choose spend time with her and that is worst because she is main li.
 
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I think a lot of people are going to be missing content going forward. I don't think it will be quite like if you killed Cass before the coup and basically get nothing until you go to the west. But I can see certain scenes feeling empty depending on how you played with certain characters.
Isnt it like real life for when you can choose adventure, desire, passion and uncertainty, but choose stable, predictable, secure ... it can get very boring and life passes by instead of you living?


But dont get me wrong, boring can be exciting for some who has an almost to chaotic life ... that's why we are here for to get fuel for our imagination of some kink
 
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One thing i dislike about side girl is, LM make their path closed is we didnt choose them on first encounter. Even Lia path also close if we didnt choose spend time with her and that is worst because she is main li.
Queen is actually worse than Lia. Because if you choose not to fantasize about her. All of her content is closed. And we're talking about the very first choice with her character. When Elis first returns home and take a bath.

At least, as far as I remember.
 

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Queen is actually worse than Lia. Because if you choose not to fantasize about her. All of her content is closed. And we're talking about the very first choice with her character. When Elis first returns home and take a bath.

At least, as far as I remember.
Isn't it the same with Elin? Or isn't the lake scene the only way to get on her path?
 

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Isn't it the same with Elin? Or isn't the lake scene the only way to get on her path?
I don't think Elin is the same. The only way to avoid her is to not help with Lockhart. Otherwise, you can still get her later, if I'm not mistaken. Not sure if that's supposed to be possible or not.
 

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I don't think Elin is the same. The only way to avoid her is to not help with Lockhart. Otherwise, you can still get her later, if I'm not mistaken. Not sure if that's supposed to be possible or not.
no, even when you are not succed with lockhart her path still open until she ask you on that first scene on tower. those 3 option is the path that you choose to corrupt, love or completly abandon her path.
 

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no, even when you are not succed with lockhart her path still open until she ask you on that first scene on tower. those 3 option is the path that you choose to corrupt, love or completly abandon her path.
Pretty sure you don't get any options at all if you decide to not help Elin with Lockhart. Referring to when Cass offers to help. If you decide not to do anything at all. Meaning not following Lockhart. It locks all options completely. That's the only way to get off of her path completely without the part that you're mentioning with the choices in the West.
 

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Alright, I decided to download the game again and replay it. Since it was bothering me a bit. Spent like over an hour but I'm finish with my testing. At least with Queen.

Doing a fresh playthrough, it looks like I was wrong about Queen. I completely forgot that you had the panties and peeking options in her room, which keeps her path going. If you don't look at her in the bath and then don't peek on her or smell her panties. It seems to remove choices completely though. You don't get the late night bath scene choices or the drunk kiss at the tavern.

However, you can still do the ring scene. Which somehow reactivates her path. At least partially. It doesn't lead to the bathing scene before the wife selection. But it does get you a tits sucking and handjob from Queen with Priscilla. Then there's the post coup scene on the bed, which is possible. And then the later scene in the forest with the thighjob. Which is pretty odd.

Doing it this way in general is kind of bipolar though. Since your average player wouldn't be trying to do this half hearted kind of pathing. They would either hard focus into romancing/lusting for Queen. Or hard rejecting. But it is indeed possible to wiggle back into her pathing.

Basically, I underestimated how you can bypass the certain scenes by simply playing into it a bit. At least in Queen case. The prince ring somehow being able to kick start it again. However, if you don't do the ring scene. It skips the other proceeding choices. Even the one after defeating Cass coup attempt. Along with the forest scene in the West.

So for Queen. To get off her path entirely, you have to:

1. Not think lustful thoughts about her.
2. Not smell her panties or peek at her.
3. Don't give her the prince ring.

Do that and you won't get back on her path again. As it just skips right passed the choices. On Elin side of things, I was right about the Lockhart scene. Even if you were romancing her from the start. Refusing to do anything about Lockhart locks her choices going forwards. Including all of her choices in the West.

So basically, Lia is actually worse than Queen. Assuming the ring being able to put you back on Queen path isn't an oversight.
 
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Alright, I decided to download the game again and replay it. Since it was bothering me a bit. Spent like over an hour but I'm finish with my testing. At least with Queen.

Doing a fresh playthrough, it looks like I was wrong about Queen. I completely forgot that you had the panties and peeking options in her room, which keeps her path going. If you don't look at her in the bath and then don't peek on her or smell her panties. It seems to remove choices completely though. You don't get the late night bath scene choices or the drunk kiss at the tavern.

However, you can still do the ring scene. Which somehow reactivates her path. At least partially. It doesn't lead to the bathing scene before the wife selection. But it does get you a tits sucking and handjob from Queen with Priscilla. Then there's the post coup scene on the bed, which is possible. And then the later scene in the forest with the thighjob. Which is pretty odd.

Doing it this way in general is kind of bipolar though. Since your average player wouldn't be trying to do this half hearted kind of pathing. They would either hard focus into romancing/lusting for Queen. Or hard rejecting. But it is indeed possible to wiggle back into her pathing.

Basically, I underestimated how you can bypass the certain scenes by simply playing into it a bit. At least in Queen case. The prince ring somehow being able to kick start it again. However, if you don't do the ring scene. It skips the other proceeding choices. Even the one after defeating Cass coup attempt. Along with the forest scene in the West.

So for Queen. To get off her path entirely, you have to:

1. Not think lustful thoughts about her.
2. Not smell her panties or peek at her.
3. Don't give her the prince ring.

Do that and you won't get back on her path again. As it just skips right passed the choices. On Elin side of things, I was right about the Lockhart scene. Even if you were romancing her from the start. Refusing to do anything about Lockhart locks her choices going forwards. Including all of her choices in the West.

So basically, Lia is actually worse than Queen. Assuming the ring being able to put you back on Queen path isn't an oversight.
Damn, we should suggest NTR tag for this game :KEK: Lockhart you mf..
 

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Damn, we should suggest NTR tag for this game :KEK: Lockhart you mf..
This seems to be the case of self-inflicted NTR, when the hero has every chance in the world to keep his girl, but refuses to make a move, so she takes it as him not having any interest anymore and resigns herself to her fate. Only later on the hero complains.

Elin: Bro, I'm forced to marry Lockhart. Better convince him to leave me alone, so that we can still be-
Elis: Nah, I'm not doing anything about it.
Elin: Fine, then I consummate the marriage with him.
Elis: OMG, I got cucked! How did this happen?????
 

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This seems to be the case of self-inflicted NTR, when the hero has every chance in the world to keep his girl, but refuses to make a move, so she takes it as him not having any interest anymore and resigns herself to her fate. Only later on the hero complains.

Elin: Bro, I'm forced to marry Lockhart. Better convince him to leave me alone, so that we can still be-
Elis: Nah, I'm not doing anything about it.
Elin: Fine, then I consummate the marriage with him.
Elis: OMG, I got cucked! How did this happen?????
easy dude, i'm just joking lmao :KEK:
 
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Your children with Seraphina also up in the Voice of Blood hybrid fever episode that Ophelia was kind enough to include us in. They don't show up if you're not pursuing her path. I was playing around with some of the more pivotal choices I was still undecided on.

I also discovered some information I haven't seen mentioned here before: Only one person in any pair of twins is susceptible to (or a carrier for) hybrid fever. The Voice refers to reflections several times as having 'dead blood', which I'm 99% positive is the reflection in any pair of twins. It's why Elin never had an episode and why Celestine's kids don't know they're half elves. Her blood was 'dead' and never came into conflict with the Red Emperor's bloodline.
 

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Alright, I decided to download the game again and replay it. Since it was bothering me a bit. Spent like over an hour but I'm finish with my testing. At least with Queen.

Doing a fresh playthrough, it looks like I was wrong about Queen. I completely forgot that you had the panties and peeking options in her room, which keeps her path going. If you don't look at her in the bath and then don't peek on her or smell her panties. It seems to remove choices completely though. You don't get the late night bath scene choices or the drunk kiss at the tavern.

However, you can still do the ring scene. Which somehow reactivates her path. At least partially. It doesn't lead to the bathing scene before the wife selection. But it does get you a tits sucking and handjob from Queen with Priscilla. Then there's the post coup scene on the bed, which is possible. And then the later scene in the forest with the thighjob. Which is pretty odd.

Doing it this way in general is kind of bipolar though. Since your average player wouldn't be trying to do this half hearted kind of pathing. They would either hard focus into romancing/lusting for Queen. Or hard rejecting. But it is indeed possible to wiggle back into her pathing.

Basically, I underestimated how you can bypass the certain scenes by simply playing into it a bit. At least in Queen case. The prince ring somehow being able to kick start it again. However, if you don't do the ring scene. It skips the other proceeding choices. Even the one after defeating Cass coup attempt. Along with the forest scene in the West.

So for Queen. To get off her path entirely, you have to:

1. Not think lustful thoughts about her.
2. Not smell her panties or peek at her.
3. Don't give her the prince ring.

Do that and you won't get back on her path again. As it just skips right passed the choices. On Elin side of things, I was right about the Lockhart scene. Even if you were romancing her from the start. Refusing to do anything about Lockhart locks her choices going forwards. Including all of her choices in the West.

So basically, Lia is actually worse than Queen. Assuming the ring being able to put you back on Queen path isn't an oversight.
I love the Queen. Need more of her scenes.

I personally like her corruption route better than love route. More steamy hot sex.
 

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He does hook you up with both his father and brother's factions...
Nah, just the usual paranoia of getting your sister cucked, when in reality, the game goes out of its way to prevent that.

Lockhart is a fine chap and 100% of the hostility here is just because he was arranged to marry MCs sister, which wasn't even something he decided to. Guys, you don't need to plan how to ruin him, the game is already accommodating towards your pathetic insecurities.
Yeah, I just think it's paranoia as well. Lockhart's entire immediate family can die in the game on the green path. If I'm not mistaken. With Priscilla either being executed earlier or later in the west by Elis. If Lockhart was truly up to no good. Those deaths right there would've brought his true character to the front.

Now maybe I could've overlooked things in the green path because it's my least played path in the game. But I don't recall Lockhart doing anything suspicious enough to warrant some scrutiny. At least nothing currently.
Lockhart is a great guy, let's us use his Wife at anytime we want, banged his Mom and his brother allowed us to have fun with his wife, Josephine so overall 10/10 family in my opinion. :BootyTime:
Lockhart is a secret genius who uses drugs (white blood?) and horse astrology to see the future, while pretends to be a mediocore person. His act is especially good, but sometimes he overplays it. Seriously, does anyone buy "only women were poisoned during the dinner"-play? He is positioned at the heart of power, and is a member of key factions. At the end of the game, Lockhart will step forward saying "just according to the keikaku".
 

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Lockhart is a secret genius who uses drugs (white blood?) and horse astrology to see the future, while pretends to be a mediocore person. His act is especially good, but sometimes he overplays it. Seriously, does anyone buy "only women were poisoned during the dinner"-play? He is positioned at the heart of power, and is a member of key factions. At the end of the game, Lockhart will step forward saying "just according to the keikaku".
huh... he does explicitly use white blood to see visions of the future and even offers you some.
 

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So... with all these prophecies, visions, etc. spoken and shared by many tangible and intangible beings alike, I decided to start a little codex project. This is just the beginning, but it should be finished soon if I decide to limit the project to only visions & prophecies. Other than summary and chronological pages, I am thinking of making a 'detective board' but since it will be a very subjective thing by its very nature, I am hesitating for now.

Please let me know if I missed something or feel free to change and modify these as you like.

How do I make a *mod pin this to main page btw?

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Update 1: By the release order of the updates, chronological page stands correct yet by the order they had been *witnessed Dryad should be in the first place.
Update 2: Soothsayer and Cat are the same *being. By the order of the appearance, chronological page stand correct again yet since Cat and Soothsayer are the same *being therefore Cat should be in the beginning with the Soothsayer.

Update 3: For now, I am not sure if I should add visions we have seen through the white blood. Also, rather than separating Mistra and Red Emperor, I should combine them in the label of ''Blood Vision(s)".
(I should have started making a WT)
Update 4: White background version is here.
Update 5: Thanks to storm1105 I realized I made a mistake in the blood vision part. It'll be fixed after the upcoming update or sooner than that.
Thanks to Pity Us Sinners I learned that if Prince is on the bookworm path he can translate Tenmir Carandar, which means Ironmen
White-blood visions will be added in the future.

Codex is here lads, feel free to feedback for anything!
 
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