Joshy92

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That's beside the point.

At what "tag" do we stop tagging these games? And waste the dev's precious time?
As a society, we have let things slip down the slippery slope too many times to count now, let us not have AVNs fall the same way.
A little bit of story info noted in spoilers on the main page isn't asking for the world especially when these devs want financial support.
I have seen countless arguments about this very topic we are discussing now simply because of that.
 
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Filipis

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A little bit of story info noted in spoilers on the main page isn't asking for the world especially when these devs want financial support.
I have seen countless arguments about this very topic we are discussing now simply because of that.
There you go, pushing the slippery ball down the slippery slope.
While this situation may be similar to the way most devs will warn players of NTR in their games, this absolutely should not be a standard, just a courtesy - a courtesy that devs do not actually owe us.

In fact, it's nice to be treated like a person with capacity for higher thinking: no bullshit, and if you're naive in making choices, you get punished.

This game made it clear from the start that MC will have to marry in order to eventually become king. And since the MC didn't lay the pipe on his sister or mother yet out of fear of narrative consequences, it's obvious LM is taking a more realistic approach to medieval fantasy... as ironic as that may sound.
 

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A little bit of story info noted in spoilers on the main page isn't asking for the world especially when these devs want financial support.
I have seen countless arguments about this very topic we are discussing now simply because of that.
I just think if you want to avoid the potential of forced LIs you should not play harem games, it's where it's most likely to happen because the let every player make every choice branching scales up really really fast in them. Generally speaking you're seeking mono paths anyway, there's a ton of games here that focus on that.
 

Jaime Lannister

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We gona need a walkthrough mod for 0.6 when it releases. Or at least a gallery mod to watch and fap to all scenes instead of going through the rpa images in game folder.
 
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You moaned about OPs not being accurate before maybe this bit of info should be in it so new people know that.

Can you imagine if a certain college game forced us to bang or marry some chick? it's called choices either have them or make a shitty kinetic novel no one will play but as usual devs skirt the tags to lure people in.
"Shitty kinetic novel" low quality trolling, chud. You not liking them =/= they are "shit". Just because this is the big anonymous internet doesn't mean you MUST act like a turd :WeSmart:.
 

Stall0

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The walkthrough says:
"Writing imperial chronicle:
If you had sex with Lia during the ball: another oral sex scene."
I did that as Bookworm but didn't get this scene.

Edit: Do you think it's possible to be named heir by the king and yet have Cass invite us to the coup?
 
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Alan Dalles

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The walkthrough says:
"Writing imperial chronicle:
If you had sex with Lia during the ball: another oral sex scene."
I did that as Bookworm but didn't get this scene.

Edit: Do you think it's possible to be named heir by the king and yet have Cass invite us to the coup?
You should have recommended Aker as a Iron councelor for another scene with Lia at the wedding. After wedding (if you are a Bookworm) you cannot get this scene (only Warrior or Magic paths). On the second question - yes, it possible (you must have minimum +3 of King attention and +1 Cass attention).
 
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Edit: Do you think it's possible to be named heir by the king and yet have Cass invite us to the coup?
Yes. I actually did this on one of my warrior paths. Which is why I kind of have issues with Cass at the moment and can't wait to see how the letting her live option plays out. Because she basically gets pissed at the dinner but wants you to do a coup later on for something you've already obtained.
 

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Alan Dalles I did that and got the wedding Lia scene.
DrakoGhoul Yeah I guess choosing 'that' option will be interesting and if dev is good to us he will make a choice to rehabilitate Cass with love the power of dick. It's early to say but the way you describe it I think it's an oversight. It should be it's own path, a sort of reward for careful management - Cass likes us so she'd try to use us to dismantle the old structures from the inside, maybe killing the king.
 

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Alan Dalles I did that and got the wedding Lia scene.
DrakoGhoul Yeah I guess choosing 'that' option will be interesting and if dev is good to us he will make a choice to rehabilitate Cass with love the power of dick. It's early to say but the way you describe it I think it's an oversight. It should be it's own path, a sort of reward for careful management - Cass likes us so she'd try to use us to dismantle the old structures from the inside, maybe killing the king.
I don't think it's an oversight. I think it's to show that Cass isn't going to let it go, regardless of what the MC achieves in that moment. She and her family have been planning it for years, potentially. Having MC on her side, heir or not, will benefit her plan, but it's not a hard requirement.
 

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I don't think it's an oversight. I think it's to show that Cass isn't going to let it go, regardless of what the MC achieves in that moment. She and her family have been planning it for years, potentially. Having MC on her side, heir or not, will benefit her plan, but it's not a hard requirement.
Yeah but being heir changes the whole thing. Now they don't need to a difficult plan to make MC a regent, they can just Prigozhin the king and make it an accident then deal with the council as a king.
 

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The possibility of Mc turning into a vampire on the bookworm route is quite intriguing.

I killed Cass. I hate traitors.:Kappa:
The coup scenario doesn't make much sense, at least the part about Mc joining the coup, the King is quite lenient towards Mc, if the King wanted to have Mc killed it would make sense.
 
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The possibility of Mc turning into a vampire on the bookworm route is quite intriguing.

I killed Cass. I hate traitors.:Kappa:
The coup scenario doesn't make much sense, at least the part about Mc joining the coup, the King is quite lenient towards Mc, if the King wanted to have Mc killed it would make sense.
I believe it does make sense, but it was rushed the way it's currently implemented.
Maybe I skipped few lines too many, but I was under impression of Cass being ultra loyalist rather than traitor.
It should have more buildup.


The possibility of Mc turning into a vampire on the bookworm route is quite intriguing.
Wait, other 'classes' don't get the vampire event?
So like with the mage sex one?
 

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Cass didn't ever give me the impression of being an ultra loyalist: she dislike the queen, she resent the king and she oppose several council members, with which she made an uneasy alliance of circumstance to remove the oracle/charlatans around the king.

Couping the King and Council indeed doesn't make MUCH sense for MC...if he is designated the heir (which is why cass is unhappy about that if it happens). If he isn't then I guess MC's impatience, insecurities and fears (he has been exiled once, he can be exiled again...or worse) could see him accepting cass' peer pressure.

And Cass herself is a bit too deep in her own plot (with her clan probably pressuring her too) and is too used to distrust everyone to easily accept to put her plan in the bin, support a regular inheritance plan and trust you to keep both of you safe and not stab her along the way (and her own temperament and lust for vengeance make her inclinated for the stabby forceful plan). I DO hope we can eventually convince her of that tho (because I love cass and want to keep her at my side, but her plan really is unhinged, unnecessary and dangerous from MC's pov)
 
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