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Yea. Now that her stats are functioning as intended, I remembered how much she pisses me off as a character. I really can't see her freeloading, high-maintenance ass settling down with anybody. The cheek on that woman. Geez. You pay the rent, you buy the food, you let her spend almost $500 on shopping trips and drop $1k on a night out while she acts like a glorified maid with delusions of being a writer. You end up working late hours and she gets pissed at you because you didn't ask about her day??
The fuck, Christian?!?! Dump the talking fleshlight and find yourself an actual woman. Let's see if fucking Ricky will put up with her useless ass.
Out of curiosity's sake, what do you consider "an actual woman"? A lot of how you described the character is not really written in the game.

To be fair to Jenny, she's not mad "because you didn't ask about her day" --- she's not happy overall because you (the MC) started spending more time playing video games than quality time with her. And you stopped going to bed with her. It's all there in the preface if you read it. So when you continue to ignore her even after she tells you there's an issue, that's why she gets mad.
 

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when wife fucks the black dude she met online and in the evening you dont want to hear it does that change the cuckold route to Cheating?
No, it just means you have an open marriage but not cuckold. The only way to cheat is if you are supposed to be "making it work."
 

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and i can be nice to her bring my arousal to 8xx+ and she will alwyas be disatisfied (curently 12) so she will do things even if i help her around tell her how sexy she is and so on!?
The higher your arousal, the less time you last in bed, so you probably don't want to do that. And you have to make her have an orgasm to satisfy her. Those two problems seem interrelated.

However, if you are in an open marriage, other men can satisfy her to prevent her satisfaction from going down so low.
 

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Out of curiosity's sake, what do you consider "an actual woman"? A lot of how you described the character is not really written in the game.

To be fair to Jenny, she's not mad "because you didn't ask about her day" --- she's not happy overall because you (the MC) started spending more time playing video games than quality time with her. And you stopped going to bed with her. It's all there in the preface if you read it. So when you continue to ignore her even after she tells you there's an issue, that's why she gets mad.
"she's not mad "because you didn't ask about her day" - Well, her stats drop because of it either way.
"quality time with her. And you stopped going to bed with her". " Even when he came to bed, I was rarely in the mood to sleep with him. " - so after everything you do for her, there are even more thing that you SHOULD do for her. As the meme goes : That's not your wife, that's a list of chores. "I'm not blaming you entirely" - Boy!! The cheek on this woman. She blames her husband, society, the pandemic...just not herself.
I mean, what is SHE doing for him? This dreaded "women's work" ? Get a job. Hire a maid. Done and done. Marriage saved.
Nah. Even when they've had "The talk", she still lied to him about the actual problem. The fact that she's a size queen (lesbian Jenny is pure nonsense) that's been faking most of her orgasm throughout their relationship - probably why Christian isn't keen on going to bed with her that often anymore. After all these years he must have finally picked up on that tidbit, consciously or unconsciously.
If she had told the truth, he could have researched other ways to "spice up" their sex life. Like toys, not cuckoldry.

Then, like the bullfighter's estoque she gives him the "Things are definitely not so bad at this point that anything drastic will happen". And any normal person would probably tilt their head and ask "Drastic? Really? What does that mean?".
If Jenny were MY wife, I'd be packing her bags myself at that point.
No. That's not an actual woman, that's an experience. Something that you stumble over on your way to happily ever after.
This is why it's a good NTR (not NTS) game. I empathize with the MC. Poor Christian.
 
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is having the wife happiness or other stats too high preventing certain events on the cuckold path ?

I see 1 event that is supposed to happen automatically did not trigger in the Brian category and he left. Will it happen later ?

How do i get access to hook up app ?
 

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Just FYI - I'm not arguing to say you're wrong, only offering a different perspective. Also, you do make a couple of mistakes about how the dynamics of the code work ... which tells me that it is actually working exactly the way I wanted.

"she's not mad "because you didn't ask about her day" - Well, her stats drop because of it either way.
Actually, no. The stats don't drop if you don't ask about her day. Each of a number of things you can do with her provides "points" and the stats drop if you don't have enough points. For example, watch a movie with her. Have a cup of coffee with her. Take her to lunch. Give her flowers. Help her cook dinner or do the dishes. Talking with her about her day. Even telling her about your day gives a point if she is otherwise happy. You can even get a point if you play video games with her as opposed to playing video games by yourself and ignoring her.

"quality time with her. And you stopped going to bed with her". " Even when he came to bed, I was rarely in the mood to sleep with him. " - so after everything you do for her, there are even more thing that you SHOULD do for her. As the meme goes : That's not your wife, that's a list of chores. "I'm not blaming you entirely" - Boy!! The cheek on this woman. She blames her husband, society, the pandemic...just not herself.
Not a list of chores. It's just the normal kinds of things that two people in love would naturally want to do. And where do you pick up that she is blaming everyone except herself. She can fix her own perspective and her own behavior, but she can't fix her husband except by talking to him about it.

I mean, what is SHE doing for him? This dreaded "women's work" ? Get a job. Hire a maid. Done and done. Marriage saved.
Nah. Even when they've had "The talk", she still lied to him about the actual problem. The fact that she's a size queen (lesbian Jenny is pure nonsense) that's been faking most of her orgasm throughout their relationship - probably why Christian isn't keen on going to bed with her that often anymore. After all these years he must have finally picked up on that tidbit, consciously or unconsciously.
Marriage isn't transactional, at least not most healthy marriages that I've encountered in life.

Also, the "size queen" Jenny isn't hard-coded. There are a couple of things that have to happen first before that becomes "the story." (Though it's possible that it will happen eventually no matter what you do, it just takes a LOT longer.)

If she had told the truth, he could have researched other ways to "spice up" their sex life. Like toys, not cuckoldry.
Actually, toys are going to be a future addition to the game, for the "make it work" path. This is still a 0.1. release.

But the point, if you keep going, is that he is not doing good research. He is looking at suspect online forums, and they kinda turn him into this. So yeah, plot convenience, because this is ultimately intended to be an NTR game. That's why there are so many warnings about this at the beginning.

Then, like the bullfighter's estoque she gives him the "Things are definitely not so bad at this point that anything drastic will happen". And any normal person would probably tilt their head and ask "Drastic? Really? What does that mean?".
If Jenny were MY wife, I'd be packing her bags myself at that point.
No. That's not an actual woman, that's an experience. Something that you stumble over on your way to happily ever after.
This is why it's a good NTR (not NTS) game. I empathize with the MC. Poor Christian.
I take that last line as a great compliment. The focus of the game is NTR. The different paths are there to provide a spectrum of how hard the NTR players prefer the NTR to be. There is everything from swinging together (though still very little content in this path), to an open marriage (both husband & wife have a free pass), to voluntary cucking (which still looks very much like the open marriage path at this point), to outright lying and cheating (by either or both of them).

I'll even give you a little bit of a sneak preview, just for fun: part of how the "make it work" path will move (in addition to cheating) will be exhibitionism that leads to hotwifing.

There will always be a "pure" no-cheating, no-sharing "happy marriage" path, but much of the content will be designed to shake the couple off of that path. That will be the challenge of the game, for those who want to play that way. For everyone else, the game will be the NTR game it was intended to be. :BootyTime:
 

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is having the wife happiness or other stats too high preventing certain events on the cuckold path ?

I see 1 event that is supposed to happen automatically did not trigger in the Brian category and he left. Will it happen later ?

How do i get access to hook up app ?
When you had the conversation about your relationship after doing online research, what did you tell her? Because it doesn't sound to me like you are on the "cuckold path." On that path, she will use the hook up app pretty early in the game. There isn't a way to access it directly.

There is one sex scene with Brian that sometimes doesn't trigger. I think I might change the way it triggers a little better so that it doesn't get missed.
 

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When you had the conversation about your relationship after doing online research, what did you tell her? Because it doesn't sound to me like you are on the "cuckold path." On that path, she will use the hook up app pretty early in the game. There isn't a way to access it directly.

There is one sex scene with Brian that sometimes doesn't trigger. I think I might change the way it triggers a little better so that it doesn't get missed.
i know witch scene and it was the only one that didnt play.. but i dont know how it happen but i chose the cuck route and for some odd reason when brian showed up all of a sudded i was on the open route lol or atleast according to the second talk then i met the poly couple
 
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my answer was do you want to fuck other people. When Brian was there i peeked, when asked if i was rethinking the whole 'open relationship' thing? i said no. Unless i misclicked without noticing but i doubt it. But i will say i did not immediatly research, i had the conversation with her on turn 1168 aug 17

In any case i still have my question about the wife stats if it gets too high does it block her from engaging with others ? So i know if i have to change my gameplay.

Also for the Brian scene i think you should make sure that all the scenes trigger cause i like your game but it is grindy so not the kind of game i want to restart.
 
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my answer was do you want to fuck other people. When Brian was there i peeked, when asked if i was rethinking the whole 'open relationship' thing? i said no. Unless i misclicked without noticing but i doubt it. But i will say i did not immediatly research, i had the conversation with her on turn 1168 aug 17

In any case i still have my question about the wife stats if it gets too high does it block her from engaging with others ? So i know if i have to change my gameplay.

Also for the Brian scene i think you should make sure that all the scenes trigger cause i like your game but it is grindy so not the kind of game i want to restart.
OK, you are definitely on the cuck path. More than likely the issue is with her Arousal. If it stays too low, some of the scenes won't trigger. Especially the app. She has to have higher than 150 (I think) Arousal for the FuckR scenes to trigger.

As for grindiness, I understand. This is pretty early in development still. The players of my other game can probably attest that as development continues, the non-linear nature of the story makes it less grindy overall. Once you start getting deeper into the various storylines, everything starts happening more frequently. This will also be true of this game (especially once I add in some of the other stuff for the MC to do). That makes restarting a lot less difficult.
 

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i know witch scene and it was the only one that didnt play.. but i dont know how it happen but i chose the cuck route and for some odd reason when brian showed up all of a sudded i was on the open route lol or atleast according to the second talk then i met the poly couple
Not on my "game" pc rn so I can't check the code. I think it might switch you from cuck to open if you choose not to watch them. That code isn't fresh in my memory. It makes a difference in whether or not they lock the doors when they are spending time together during Brian's stay. In the second talk, she does use the term "open" for both the open and cuck paths----mostly because they're not really knowledgeable enough to know the difference and they're just informally discussing it. The second part of the conversation is different depending on whether you are on the open or the cuck path. If "open" she will ask if he is seeing any other women --- if "cuck" she will ask if he wants to watch her with someone else.
 

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Are old saves not compatible? Nothing new seems to be happening for me
They should be compatible but if you want to direct message me with a save file I can check it. The story format that I use updated its Save API but I haven't noticed any issues with using older saves.
 

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what do you do to stop or the wifes satisfaction from going down or make it go up i am in an open relationship and want to hare abot her it from her and always make her cum but her satisfaction is at 0 i dont know what choses to make or what i did wrong?
 

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hey Surprise & Delight ! Love the game, but I'm stuck in a loop atm.
At night, Jenny thinks about the boss's messages and watches them. The scene is on repeat.
Happened after meeting Becca and the conversation with Christian about Shaun.
Any way to get unstuck ?
Thx for the help !
 

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Not on my "game" pc rn so I can't check the code. I think it might switch you from cuck to open if you choose not to watch them. That code isn't fresh in my memory. It makes a difference in whether or not they lock the doors when they are spending time together during Brian's stay. In the second talk, she does use the term "open" for both the open and cuck paths----mostly because they're not really knowledgeable enough to know the difference and they're just informally discussing it. The second part of the conversation is different depending on whether you are on the open or the cuck path. If "open" she will ask if he is seeing any other women --- if "cuck" she will ask if he wants to watch her with someone else.
that explains it i just went to sleep lol
 
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hey Surprise & Delight ! Love the game, but I'm stuck in a loop atm.
At night, Jenny thinks about the boss's messages and watches them. The scene is on repeat.
Happened after meeting Becca and the conversation with Christian about Shaun.
Any way to get unstuck ?
Thx for the help !
Oh that's weird. Can you "save to disk" and direct message me the save file?
 
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