VN Ren'Py Inanna Revenge [Ep.2] [AtemX Games]

[Yukihirou]

MC dress like a clown and combat is there just to tick off a box (too easy). Other than that, it's fine, definitely need more netorase/swinging/sharing.

 

[mehGusta]

MC dress like a clown and combat is there just to tick off a box (too easy). Other than that, it's fine, definitely need more netorase/swinging/sharing.

personally i don't want any combat in this game, because i'm not here for the combat. so i actually would hate it if the combat was made more difficult. especially since this will never reach the perfection of a dark souls. no reason to try hard then.

however i can accept that there is a combat mechanic to begin with, because this way you can actually show how powerful MMC can get throughout the game. it's therefore maybe not unnecessary.

 

[Yukihirou]

personally i don't want any combat in this game, because i'm not here for the combat. so i actually would hate it if the combat was made more difficult. especially since this will never reach the perfection of a dark souls. no reason to try hard then.

however i can accept that there is a combat mechanic to begin with, because this way you can actually show how powerful MMC can get throughout the game. it's therefore maybe not unnecessary.

Either get rid of it or make it bearable, fun and worth the grind (If there is even a grind). No need to make it stellar, just don't half ass or "placeholder" it, which this I think fit the bill.

 

[mehGusta]

Either get rid of it or make it bearable, fun and worth the grind (If there is even a grind). No need to make it stellar, just don't half ass or "placeholder" it, which this I think fit the bill.

how do you suppose it gets fun?
that usually is done either with challenging combat (which i said i would hate it if went that way) or with progression.
can't be much of a progression yet if it's the first release, no?

 

[Yukihirou]

how do you suppose it gets fun?
that usually is done either with challenging combat (which i said i would hate it if went that way) or with progression.
can't be much of a progression yet if it's the first release, no?

Plenty of way to go about. I can list a few
-Define the front line and back line
-Implement actual stats that generate and track turn order, battle advantages/disadvantages
-Items, Items that matter and an economy so that items have a defined place to stay.
-More skills, passive, active, gimmick skills. Or even... ero skills ? Costs points to equip skills
-Level scaled enemy (But always below lowest member's level minus 2/3/4/5)
...
There's more though. But I'm not game dev, I just play games.

 

[mehGusta]

Plenty of way to go about. I can list a few
-Define the front line and back line
-Implement actual stats that generate and track turn order, battle advantages/disadvantages
-Items, Items that matter and an economy so that items have a defined place to stay.
-More skills, passive, active, gimmick skills. Or even... ero skills ? Costs points to equip skills
-Level scaled enemy (But always below lowest member's level minus 2/3/4/5)
...
There's more though. But I'm not game dev, I just play games.

and that's where it starts getting complicated. and maybe too complicated for people who just want to enjoy a good romance/netorase story.

 

[Yukihirou]

and that's where it starts getting complicated. and maybe too complicated for people who just want to enjoy a good romance/netorase story.

That's why I say it's half assed. This is no different than a glorified rendered cutscene with clickable menu (Wait, that's actually it). Either make it work or disable it altogether else it's just misleading for some new players (I did say this is just ticking a box dev thing)

 

[pitao]

and that's where it starts getting complicated. and maybe too complicated for people who just want to enjoy a good romance/netorase story.

Then if that happens AtemX can make it skippable with a turn on/off battles for example, I wouldn't mind a bit more strategy in it, I was a sucker for the Final Fantasy saga even until FF6 when they were a bit more simple visually before they went to the playstation. Of course doesn't need to be that complex strategically than very old FF games but please no random encounters in an AVN hehe.

 

[Juerhullycin]

yeah i can get that a dev wants to flex his programming muscle, but in my opinion, a NSFW AVN isn't the place for all that

 

[SkaKami]

Hey guys, id like to alter the code, but i cant find the arcordingly .rpy file for that. May s1 help me out with that, please? I only need the location of the .rpy data.

 

[pitao]

Hey guys, id like to alter the code, but i cant find the arcordingly .rpy file for that. May s1 help me out with that, please? I only need the location of the .rpy data.

It is much easier to use URM and learn how to use it to remember and change variables than alter data of rpy files, but you do you. Well just assuming because I have no idea why you want to alter data/code from the game.

Edit : I'm looking at my game install and probably the data you need is in the archive.rpa file but to access it you need to unren it, I don't advise it but again it is your choice.

 

[SkaKami]

It is much easier to use URM and learn how to use it to remember and change variables than alter data of rpy files, but you do you. Well just assuming because I have no idea why you want to alter data/code from the game.

Edit : I'm looking at my game install and probably the data you need is in the archive.rpa file but to access it you need to unren it, I don't advise it but again it is your choice.

Oh okay thanks, but im actually just looking to chance an LIs prename, as the name itself is subjectivly very disturbing for me. But i love the game too much, just not to alter it to my preferences. So im basically just looking for the .rpy file, where all the character definitions and all the secene context is written down.

 

[pitao]

Oh okay thanks, but im actually just looking to chance an LIs prename, as the name itself is subjectivly very disturbing for me. But i love the game too much, just not to alter it to my preferences. So im basically just looking for the .rpy file, where all the character definitions and all the secene context is written down.

I see, well if you know how to unren the rpa file you can try that, but no idea where the script files are, I imagine they are in the archive but I may be wrong also but then the game may not run well also with it unren(ed) instead of being in the archive, rarely I unren rpa files, mostly only on few games to get some music files for my music player playlist hahaha.

 

[SkaKami]

I see, well if you know how to unren the rpa file you can try that, but no idea where the script files are, I imagine they are in the archive but I may be wrong also but then the game may not run well also with it unren(ed) instead of being in the archive, rarely I unren rpa files, mostly only on few games to get some music files for my music player playlist hahaha.

Okay thanks, ill wrap my head around it. Dont know how to unren rpa data, but ill figure it out. I NEED this change of "Carmen" here, it makes the game slightly unejoyable for me. Overall the game kinda perfect, im waiting patiently for the next one (70% dev progress last time i checked)

 

[pitao]

Oh okay thanks, but im actually just looking to chance an LIs prename, as the name itself is subjectivly very disturbing for me. But i love the game too much, just not to alter it to my preferences. So im basically just looking for the .rpy file, where all the character definitions and all the secene context is written down.

Can I know which LI name you want to change? I'm using URM as in almost all games, and I see a variable to change Cindy name for example. Maybe the LI you want can be changed also but not sure if changes the name in dialogues. And much easier in URM, I can lead you to how to change it if you need assistance.

 

[SkaKami]

Can I know which LI name you want to change? I'm using URM as in almost all games, and I see a variable to change Cindy name for example. Maybe the LI you want can be changed also

Id like to change the name of "Carmen" to lets say... ANYThING else but that. xD

 

[pitao]

Id like to change the name of "Carmen" to lets say... ANYThING else but that. xD

As you can see in the search I made by values (not by variable names) seems you can change the name, but I'm not sure what effect it will make in the script. I can test it though.

 

[SkaKami]

As you can see in the search I made by values (not by variable names) seems you can change the name, but I'm not sure what effect it will make in the script. I can test it though.
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That looks convenient. Im not fond of bothering you too much with this, basically id like to try it out myself. Where to find this software?

 

[pitao]

That looks convenient. Im not fond of bothering you too much with this, basically id like to try it out myself. Where to find this software?

Well nevermind, not a good idea to mess with those strings/variables hehe. Well seems you have to change in the code like you said, what files, no idea and even that way seems a bit messy and too much work even changing all that says "Carmen" to any other name. Just better to ask the dev to add something to change the names but usually they only do it for a few characters and most of them only can change the MC name.

But that is the mod I use in all renpy games, to look under the hood and change/cheat a few variables if need, saves me time like doing a whole fresh playthrough just to change a variable to false to true or vice versa, and besides that has many other features, it is a "mod yourself" rpa file that goes into the game folder and that doesn't mess saves because doesn't overwrite any game file. but its here, there is a thread in this forum for URM Mod - Ren'Py - Universal Ren'Py Mod / URM [2.6.1] (mod any Ren'Py game yourself) | F95zone | Adult Games | Comics | Mods | Cheats .

Edit: its says on URM page OP "rename any char" and in the list of features but probably need to be careful to what you need to change, I tried a few fields and then kept giving me not defined errors, gladly I just had to put the original thing that was on the field changed and the errors were gone, my worry was that it "infected" the persistent file and then would be annoying. Also the name appear in several places, in the dialogue, when the character is speaking in bigger font, in the bios screen etc etc, usually is an hard endeavor. You can always ask in the URM thread how to do it.

Edit2 : SkaKami Well in the variable "store.carmen" I changed the field to "Anything" haha and when she speaks appears her name as Anything hehe but in the dialogue couldn't find any with her name to check if works, it doesn't change in the bios character screen though, must be other variable. Also better to change after the name is defined as Carmen, I tried before because she starts her name as ??? and then change to Lady Blaze and finally is set as Carmen.

 

[SkaKami]

Well nevermind, not a good idea to mess with those strings/variables hehe. Well seems you have to change in the code like you said, what files, no idea and even that way seems a bit messy and too much work even changing all that says "Carmen" to any other name. Just better to ask the dev to add something to change the names but usually they only do it for a few characters and most of them only can change the MC name.

But that is the mod I use in all renpy games, to look under the hood and change/cheat a few variables if need, saves me time like doing a whole fresh playthrough just to change a variable to false to true or vice versa, and besides that has many other features, it is a "mod yourself" rpa file that goes into the game folder and that doesn't mess saves because doesn't overwrite any game file. but its here, there is a thread in this forum for URM Mod - Ren'Py - Universal Ren'Py Mod / URM [2.6.1] (mod any Ren'Py game yourself) | F95zone | Adult Games | Comics | Mods | Cheats .

Edit: its says on URM page OP "rename any char" and in the list of features but probably need to be careful to what you need to change, I tried a few fields and then kept giving me not defined errors, gladly I just had to put the original thing that was on the field changed and the errors were gone, my worry was that it "infected" the persistent file and then would be annoying. Also the name appear in several places, in the dialogue, when the character is speaking in bigger font, in the bios screen etc etc, usually is an hard endeavor. You can always ask in the URM thread how to do it.

Damn, thank you a lot! This is the reason i may could enjoy this game a lot more that i even did before.
I really appreciate your engamement of my problem. Ill figure it out and then im part of enjoying this title to its fullest, right where its derseves to.
Thank you pitao, youre the best! <3